Originally posted by jinzin
sure you do.. I mean all i've got are facts.. you've got nothing but unwarrented insults... but yeah.. you own me. whatever it takes to help you sleep at night.
You think that Venom can beat Superman, which is something you have nothing but a badly written comic book to back you. You can keep thinking Venom could beat Superman, or Wolverine could beat Superman, so on so forth. Whatever helps you sleep at night. 😉
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
You think that Venom can beat Superman, which is something you have nothing but a badly written comic book to back you. You can keep thinking Venom could beat Superman, or Wolverine could beat Superman, so on so forth. Whatever helps you sleep at night. 😉
I never said venom CAN beat superman.. I never said wolverine CAN beat superman...
what I did say was wolvenom could probably take superman using the best of his abilities.... and I've already admitted that my rationale for that post that you keep shoving in my face from well over a year ago wasn't very good... I've reconted some of the things I said.. but you want to come on here and feel superior in spite of arguing against evidence again well... good for you...
doesn't change the fact that wolverines been shown to go toe to toe with guys like
hulk, ultron, kierrok etc etc and hold his own...
doesn't change the fact that he's cut through thanos
doesn't change the fact that symbiotes have proven to negate characters like the traveller, the entirety of marvel earth, hulk, juggernaught, SILVER SURFER.
and hey wait there's another name I'm forgetting.. oh wait, that's right.. SUPERMAN...
that was the premise I was working with... get over it...
Well, your premise is a load of crap, as always. You can't back it up except with bad writing. It's not even conceivable that Wolverine could beat Namor, or Superman, or anyone of the sort. The only reason people have that happen is to make the hairy canuck look good. You can't see that, then that's just your fanboyism. Wolverine may be "the best at what he does" but it ain't good enough to beat Namor under the parameters of these forums. Get over it.
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Well, your premise is a load of crap, as always. You can't back it up except with bad writing. It's not even conceivable that Wolverine could beat Namor, or Superman, or anyone of the sort. The only reason people have that happen is to make the hairy canuck look good. You can't see that, then that's just your fanboyism. Wolverine may be "the best at what he does" but it ain't good enough to beat Namor under the parameters of these forums. Get over it.
😂
lol.. I already did "get over it" dolt... did you miss the part where I admitted namor would win?
however,
look if you're going to try and argue that namor can take logan in a h2h which is basically what I'm arguing at this point then prove your points.. don't just spout out PIS when it suits you.. you're such a copout...
Originally posted by jinzin
😂lol.. I already did "get over it" dolt... did you miss the part where I admitted namor would win?
however,
look if you're going to try and argue that namor can take logan in a h2h which is basically what I'm arguing at this point then prove your points.. don't just spout out PIS when it suits you.. you're such a copout...
Namor would win, yes, you admitted, and said you admitted. So why are you still arguing?
Originally posted by jinzin
why not again?(waits for the "wolverine had mysterious upgrades that no one can prove he had" argument)
Seeing as that seems to be the only comic where Wolverine has fared that well, yeah, it seems that only the upgrades help him to do that. ✅
Originally posted by jinzin
so what? it's not like they're different claws...
Originally posted by jinzin
you've already shown when he's done stuff like that.. fighting captain america no less..
Fighting his FRIEND, who he didn't want to HURT. Not some naked lunatic maniac who jumped at him from woods, or a GUY WHO KILLED ATLANTEAN ON FRONT OF HIS EYES. Biiiiiiiggggg difference.
Reason why he fought peacefully in those fights? Bad writing.
It would be the same if someone had murdered Jubilee in front of Wolverine's eyes and he would just peacefully subdue the murderer and take him to cops. Would that not be bad writing...?
Originally posted by jinzin
fanboy blinders again.. wolerine never went for a stab he got a glancing blow which you can see namor turning with the hit..
and there's plenty of reason.. punches kicks.. not working.
Maybe if he had not held back they would have...
Originally posted by jinzin
in water? hell no..
on land.. yeah that's different.
Even if he hasn't proven it in fights where Namor fights to his fullest extent?
Originally posted by jinzin
So by your own logic the only showings we get to use are subjective ones...
It's pretty damn clear that Namor didn't fight fully in both of their fights. He fought like a pacifist would fight. Hell, three pages of first fight were basically him trying to subdue Wolverine, and in second fight, he was peacefully talking to him.
We can't use examples where Namor doesn't act like he acts normally...
Originally posted by jinzin
but a tap and a roundhouse kick are vastly different from one another... both have the same result the cards fall over...
namor threw a punch.
he did it with enough speed to hit BP.
BP should have been sent flying regardless...
UNLESS of course, people getting punched and not sent flying for miles doesn't prove jack shit one way or the other....
*sigh* So you are saying a tap = roundhouse kick...like I said, cards fall, but not with the same force.
People can punch with different forces. Accept it. It's
And BP was actually sent flying...not just with same force then some of Namor's enemies have...
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9767/namorblackpanther12om.gif
Conclusion...Namor didn't punch him with same force then he has punched etc. Hulk. Hence, holding back.
Originally posted by jinzin
opinionated vs. evidence to the contrary.you're really not following along ❌ your hopeless... the point is BP should have been sent flying regardless...
"And BP was actually sent flying...not just with same force then some of Namor's enemies have...
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9767/namorblackpanther12om.gif
Conclusion...Namor didn't punch him with same force then he has punched etc. Hulk. Hence, holding back."
Originally posted by jinzin
It's stupid and I agree with that.. but it doesn't prove anything except for the fact that it's stupid....
It also proves that he wasn't punching Wolverine with the same force.
The flying isn't the only thing that proves that...
How about the place being destroyed for the aftereffects Namor's punches cause...
Originally posted by jinzin
dohyou're just not following along.. okay reply if you will.. we've already danced this dance long enough...
[QUOTE=6417207]Originally posted by jinzin
[B]lets look at some facts...first fight:
-namor fails to KO logan
-logan cuts namor
-logan gets kicked but falling down from the kick can't be proven one way or the other.
-namor fails to dodge every blow
-namor grabs plot device to hit logan with
-namor misses
-draw
-Namor fails to KO Logan, because he isn't punching him with full power, which can be proven, and flying isn't only way to do that...
-and Namor doesn't care from it at all.
-Except by looking at the picture...
-And it does no harm to him.
-Again, doesn't prove anything.
-So just more reason to use his punches.
Originally posted by jinzin
second fight
-namor hits logan
-namor holding back can't be proven one way or the other
-namor ONCE AGAIN grabs plot device to bash logan with
-namor ONCE AGAIN fails to KO logan
-namor once again gets cut
-namor gets gutted
-namor was about to die had U.S. agent not saved his ass
Originally posted by jinzin
okay while you certainly know much about namor darkcrawler and I respect you for your knowledge.. you constantly provide "proof" which is nothing more than a matter of your opinion... I don't have a problem with what you think.. but rather WHY you think what you do... it's all a matter of subjective nature.. but the fact remains.. namor had two chances to prove you right and me wrong.. and namor failed on both accounts.. that's what's canon, that's what's there, and that's what's happened... as to your ability to accept it.. well I know you never will... but that's cool... rock the namor till your heart stops punk
And the fact is, like said again, people DO NOT fight here in the same way then they do in comics. So Namor will actually dodge and not hold back...and not fight peacefully.
Originally posted by jinzin
😂lol.. I already did "get over it" dolt... did you miss the part where I admitted namor would win?
however,
look if you're going to try and argue that namor can take logan in a h2h which is basically what I'm arguing at this point then prove your points.. don't just spout out PIS when it suits you.. you're such a copout...
Yeah. A superhuman foe can't take Namor. Riiiiiiiiiiiight.
water: wolverine would lose badly.
out of water: Sooner or later this fight will go hand to hand. When it does Wolverine has the ability to hurt Namor pretty badly. Wolverine has shrugged off shots from those stronger than Namor and cut people who are tougher than Namor. I think it could go either way. Longer the fight goes after Namor is wounded more in favor of Wolverine. Sure, Namor could just chuck cars at him, but first he'd have to find him. If Namor gets mad and goes after Wolverine with his fists he puts himself in considerable danger.
note: People need to get over Wolverine taking class 100 punches. It's not like this is a new feat. He's been doing it for years now. Christ.
