Namor, The Sub-Mariner vs Wolverine

Originally posted by jinzin
same could be attempted tobe argued for hulk... doesn't change the fact wolvie took his punches in stride.. deal with it.

last I remember those claws almost killed him... 😕

cause going in close h2h gets him carved up.. yknow like what actually happened... PIS... pffft.. I'm not surprised... 😂

like wolverines?

and wolverine Never has a problem dicing up guys like hulk but you seem to think that the one time namor got lucky vs. a glancing blow from wolverine equates to logan can't hurt him in spite of evidence to the contrary.. see where I'm going? you're no less bias than anyone else here...

unless it's wolverine right?...

cause if we did that..
wolverine>>>>sun
wolverine>>>hulk
wolerine>>>herc
wolverine>>>being beheaded
wolverine>>>>50,000 hydra members
wolverine>>>>atomic bomb
wolverine>>>NAMOR 😱

that's a question of morality... but you're missing the point again.. those cards still fall...

namor obviously used a faster punch than 5MPH cause anything thrown at BP at 5MPH would NEVER hit the guy.. so he was obviously using speed... yet he didn't send BP flying... again.. people getting sent flying or not.. proves very little...

okay so you understand the concept yet you continue to argue against it?

*sigh* namor wins. Much stronger. He can fly (with ankle wings! How cool is that!) and I bet Wolvie would call him Spock somewhere along the line, which means instant death.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Does Superman punch Batman as hard as he punches Darkseid? 😂

Yes

Originally posted by jinzin
same could be attempted tobe argued for hulk... doesn't change the fact wolvie took his punches in stride.. deal with it.

...still waiting for pictures where Wolverine takes a Hulk punch like nothing...because only image I have seen is the one where he is Death, and that really isn't enough to prove your point.

Originally posted by jinzin
last I remember those claws almost killed him... 😕

Not on the battle we are talking about...

Originally posted by jinzin
cause going in close h2h gets him carved up.. yknow like what actually happened... PIS... pffft.. I'm not surprised... 😂

Plot Induced Stupidity is characters not fighting to their fullest extent. Which Namor didn't. He clearly wasn't still, no matter what you are trying to claim, fighting him with same effort as he is fighting guys like Silver Surfer and Hulk. Hell, on another fight, he was talking peacefully 😂. When does Namor do stuff like that? Oh, thats right. Never.

PIS.

like wolverines?

Originally posted by jinzin
and wolverine Never has a problem dicing up guys like hulk but you seem to think that the one time namor got lucky vs. a glancing blow from wolverine equates to logan can't hurt him in spite of evidence to the contrary.. see where I'm going? you're no less bias than anyone else here...

In the first fight, Namor seemed to be perfectly capable of taking the slices. So no reason why he should have resorted to plot devices...and I DO believe that Wolverine CAN cut Namor...but is he fast and skilled enough to do it to Namor who fights to his fullest extent? No...

Originally posted by jinzin
unless it's wolverine right?...

cause if we did that..
wolverine>>>>sun
wolverine>>>hulk
wolerine>>>herc
wolverine>>>being beheaded
wolverine>>>>50,000 hydra members
wolverine>>>>atomic bomb
wolverine>>>NAMOR 😱

If we use highest showings for both, Wolverine VS Namor doesn't count, because Namor obviously wasn't fighting to his fullest there...

Originally posted by jinzin
that's a question of morality... but you're missing the point again.. those cards still fall...

But not as hard as if I had punched them as hard as I could...if I just tap them, they fall slowly, if I would roundhouse kick them, they would be sent flying all over the place.

So, Namor's punches against guys like Wolverine and Daredevil: Tapping

Namor punches against Beta Ray Bill and Hulk: Roundhouse kicks

If a kid would attack you, would you punch him as hard as if a thirty-year old man would attack you? You wouldn't, because you would potentially kill the kid.

And Namor doesn't want to kill people.

Originally posted by jinzin
namor obviously used a faster punch than 5MPH cause anything thrown at BP at 5MPH would NEVER hit the guy.. so he was obviously using speed... yet he didn't send BP flying... again.. people getting sent flying or not.. proves very little...

5 MPH wasn't really a clear figure. And there are other facts that point towards that he isn't punching with his full force...

Such as punches with full force make an island quiver and make horrific sounds...and their after-effects cause destruction in miles...and make guys like Silver Surfer and Thor feel pain...

And when he punches Wolverine, he is sent back for about a feet. 🤨

Originally posted by jinzin
okay so you understand the concept yet you continue to argue against it?

If the concept is wrong, yes...

Originally posted by jinzin
sure wolverine 145.. hulk tries to smack logan and it sends logan back like what 10 feet? guess hulk was holding back huh?

Deathverine again?

Any Wolverine feats outside that comic...?

And it didn't look like Hulk was punching Wolverine with full force, either. You realize that Hulk's full force punches have shattered mountains?

now THIS is why i bumped this thread!

go me!! 😄

Originally posted by leonidas
now THIS is why i bumped this thread!

go me!! 😄

i don't think it's impossible as many do, for wolvie to get a win, just very unlikely. much like thor i say namor takes the vast majority, but there is enough evidence to say that wolvie is capable of pulling out a win.

namor, 9/10 imo.

I say Namor take the majority also. But Wolverine can win if they fight close range. Those claws are a f*cker to deal with and so are his damm healing factor and adamantium bones.

In the water however Wolverine has pretty much no chance.

in water he's screwed 1000/1000. but i agree with you. in close, those claws are a b!tch . . .

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
...still waiting for pictures where Wolverine takes a Hulk punch like nothing...because only image I have seen is the one where he is Death, and that really isn't enough to prove your point.

(waits for the "wolverine had mysterious upgrades that no one can prove he had" argument)

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Not on the battle we are talking about....

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Plot Induced Stupidity is characters not fighting to their fullest extent. Which Namor didn't. He clearly wasn't still, no matter what you are trying to claim, fighting him with same effort as he is fighting guys like Silver Surfer and Hulk. Hell, on another fight, he was talking peacefully 😂. When does Namor do stuff like that? Oh, thats right. Never.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
In the first fight, Namor seemed to be perfectly capable of taking the slices. So no reason why he should have resorted to plot devices.

fanboy blinders again.. wolerine never went for a stab he got a glancing blow which you can see namor turning with the hit..
and there's plenty of reason.. punches kicks.. not working.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
...and I DO believe that Wolverine CAN cut Namor...but is he fast and skilled enough to do it to Namor who fights to his fullest extent? No...

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
If we use highest showings for both, Wolverine VS Namor doesn't count, because Namor obviously wasn't fighting to his fullest there...

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
But not as hard as if I had punched them as hard as I could...if I just tap them, they fall slowly, if I would roundhouse kick them, they would be sent flying all over the place.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
So, Namor's punches against guys like Wolverine and Daredevil: Tapping

Namor punches against Beta Ray Bill and Hulk: Roundhouse kicks

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
5 MPH wasn't really a clear figure. And there are other facts that point towards that he isn't punching with his full force...

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
And when he punches Wolverine, he is sent back for about a feet. 🤨

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Deathverine again?

Any Wolverine feats outside that comic...?

And it didn't look like Hulk was punching Wolverine with full force, either. You realize that Hulk's full force punches have shattered mountains?

doh

you're just not following along.. okay reply if you will.. we've already danced this dance long enough...

lets look at some facts...

first fight:
-namor fails to KO logan
-logan cuts namor
-logan gets kicked but falling down from the kick can't be proven one way or the other.
-namor fails to dodge every blow
-namor grabs plot device to hit logan with
-namor misses
-draw

second fight
-namor hits logan
-namor holding back can't be proven one way or the other
-namor ONCE AGAIN grabs plot device to bash logan with
-namor ONCE AGAIN fails to KO logan
-namor once again gets cut
-namor gets gutted
-namor was about to die had U.S. agent not saved his ass

okay while you certainly know much about namor darkcrawler and I respect you for your knowledge.. you constantly provide "proof" which is nothing more than a matter of your opinion... I don't have a problem with what you think.. but rather WHY you think what you do... it's all a matter of subjective nature.. but the fact remains.. namor had two chances to prove you right and me wrong.. and namor failed on both accounts.. that's what's canon, that's what's there, and that's what's happened... as to your ability to accept it.. well I know you never will... but that's cool... rock the namor till your heart stops punk

Originally posted by jinzin
why not again?

(waits for the "wolverine had mysterious upgrades that no one can prove he had" argument)

Just show a picture and don't mince words................................

Oh, for the love of God, let this thread die. I don't care what comics say, Namor murders Wolverine. This is coming from a Wolverine fan. Case closed.

Originally posted by Soleran
Just show a picture and don't mince words................................

the hell are you talking about?

Originally posted by badabing
I don't care what comics say, .

then what the hell are you doing here? 🤨

Originally posted by jinzin
then what the hell are you doing here? 🤨

Originally posted by jinzin
then what the hell are you doing here? 🤨

Nice job with editing his post so you can slander him, Jinzin. Wolverine still loses this fight, and you can't provide any evidence that he can. You have no credibility here. Need I remind you of "Wolverine with the Venom symbiote could take Superman?" You're just a doofus with a big mouth. What are YOU doing here if you can't read into reality.

sure wolverine 145.. hulk tries to smack logan and it sends logan back like what 10 feet? guess hulk was holding back huh?

Deathverine again?

Any Wolverine feats outside that comic...?

And it didn't look like Hulk was punching Wolverine with full force, either. You realize that Hulk's full force punches have shattered mountains?

Originally posted by badabing
Oh, for the love of God, let this thread die. I don't care what comics say, Namor murders Wolverine. This is coming from a Wolverine fan. Case closed.