Namor, The Sub-Mariner vs Wolverine

Originally posted by DarkCrawler

Despite ever actually cutting material as hard as Namor’s bones. Can you name a material besides adamantium that has taken full shot from Mjolnir without even breaking at all? No? Perhaps something that has survived re-entry from space with multiple times the speed of sound and had no damage? No? How about material that has taken continous assault from Thunderstrike and Hercules and had no damage? Come on. Perhaps something that has taken all-out blast from Ultron and been not harmed (not even shouting in pain, and may I remind you that even low-level blasts from Ultron have broken Hulk’s bones)? How about metal standing atop miniature nuke and been unharmed? Material that has not broken anything while taking full punch from Iron Man and full brunt of his repulsor rays directly after that? Have good time trying. Silver Surfer’s blasts? Thanos’s attacks? All-out Thor assault? Master Khan’s magical beams?

God damn....don't think you can argue with that. 😬

obviously Namor, you know how its like to get hit by someone with class100 strength? even if wolvies bones dint break, he brain will get smashed inside

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWz1lwLpvmo

Im sorry but this makes me like Wolverine again. Im looking for this Wolverine cartoon which has an acoustic on it. The lyrics are really silly but it still sounds good, has anyone seen it.

While I'm usually fighting Wolvie fanboys on most other threads, I think Namor fans are overestimating him. Yeah, he's not popular and most leasurely comic fans don't know just how powerful he really is, but the guy isn't the best hero out there.

Cap's tussled with him and held his own. And I'm not sure if people have read the fight in Wolverine #45, but Wolvie was not doing so bad. And no, I'm not talking about the Iron Man crap, Wolvie gave as good as he got:

guh...

And here's part two. Namor getting the drop on Logan, probably because Logan underestimated Namor's pain threshold, healing ability and general durability. I don't think he'll make the same mistake though:

And that fight is as badly written as they come. If you read that fight and compare it to other Namor showings you'll notice that Namor doesn't fight that stupidly ever. I mean, he let Wolverine just get up and stab him? 🤨

As for Cap, again only times he has had any sort of chance against Namor is when:

A) Namor was 18 years old, and extremely cocky (And even then, Namor won...pretty easily)

B) When Namor was mind-controlled and fought like a stupid Hulk...

When Namor is not mind controlled or young...
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Originally posted by DarkCrawler
And that fight is as badly written as they come. If you read that fight and compare it to other Namor showings you'll notice that Namor doesn't fight that stupidly ever. I mean, he let Wolverine just get up and stab him? 🤨

As for Cap, again only times he has had any sort of chance against Namor is when:

A) Namor was 18 years old, and extremely cocky (And even then, Namor won...pretty easily)

B) When Namor was mind-controlled and fought like a stupid Hulk...

When Namor is not mind controlled or young...
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NOOOOO, dont show those scans!!!! weep.

There is actually one fight were Cap beats Namor , but thats just once.

Originally posted by Alfheim
NOOOOO, dont show those scans!!!! weep.

There is actually one fight were Cap beats Namor , but thats just once.

And i think thats a fight where Namor was mind controlled via a device on his neck and Cap choped it wich caused Namor to lose consciousness. Or is there another fight where Cap beats Namor?

Originally posted by jrodslam
And i think thats a fight where Namor was mind controlled via a device on his neck and Cap choped it wich caused Namor to lose consciousness. Or is there another fight where Cap beats Namor?

No isn't actually. Don't get me wrong though Namor will probably beat Cap all the time. Cap is good but not that good.

Namor takes this. Wolverine could get a hit in with his Claws. But it wont always beat him. But one shot from Namor and Logan's out.

wolveine ttly wns cuz hes da bst at wat he dos he esly pwns dis n00b

Honestly? Namor utterly destroys Wolverine 10/10. No way is Wolverine winning, on land or in the water.

Lets see, where people stand here..

Who thinks Wolverine can beat Namor: Capt it Up, Riceroost, Wolvertooth, Jizin 😐

Who thinks Namor owns Wolverine: Everybody else 😆

Gee what a coincidence

Originally posted by trolly_crouchjr
obviously Namor, you know how its like to get hit by someone with class100 strength? even if wolvies bones dint break, he brain will get smashed inside

Originally posted by Grimm22
Lets see, where people stand here..

Who thinks Wolverine can beat Namor: Capt it Up, Riceroost, Wolvertooth, Jizin 😐

Who thinks Namor owns Wolverine: Everybody else 😆

Gee what a coincidence

that's not what the argument is.. namor can take all the wins he wants in this fight if he plays it smart... if he ops to go h2h though he's done for more often than not.. sure there's a chance he MIGHT win.. but it's a slim one... and frankly I don't see where the argument for that falls apart...

it's certainly not that namor's too skilled for wolverine, in terms of fighting skills wolverine would make namor look like child's play...

it's definitely not speed... namor's best feats of speed outside of water have easily been comparatively reproduced by wolverine and on more occasions...

it's definitely not a speed blitz... namor's tried that trick on captain america on several occasions.. once was from behind, on all occassions cap was fast enough to react...

it's definitely not reflexes.... namor's constantly hit by street level fighters, thugs, and hell even u.s. soldiers... he'd have to be well beyond spiderman's level in the speed/reflex department to remain unscathed in a h2h with wolvie, which he ain't... again, their feats stack up well with eachother...

it's not his durability, wolverine's already shown that 2 stabs of 3 12inch claws can put namor down.

it's not his stength because out of water he's had trouble lifting anchor's and frankly he's consistently shown to be at or around thing's level if anything. bottom line, wolverine's dealt with people of his strength and greater and has done fine.

so there's really no reason not to believe that wolvie would give namor all sorts of hell up close and personal... none of namor's feats show him doing what he'd have to do in this fight to prove otherwise.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Lets see, where people stand here..

Who thinks Wolverine can beat Namor: Capt it Up, Riceroost, Wolvertooth, Jizin 😐

Who thinks Namor owns Wolverine: Everybody else 😆

Gee what a coincidence

I'm noticing a very interesting pattern. I wonder what it could be..........

Namor owns him. Like seriously, this isn't even funny.

Now if it were Infinity Wolverine (check my sig) he would win. 😖hifty:

i'm back been gone a couple of days doing some installation work and gues what? today's my bday so fork over some gifts.... i see this thread is still going strong....i've read up on what everyone posed while i was gone and i've been reading some good stuff from both sides, look when it comes right down to it shaveing way all of their abilites it comes down to this namor has just 1 more option than wolverine when it comes on to this fight all in all wolverine's only option in any fight is to gut his oppnent which leads him to dispite his skill a very limited set of angles of attack he knows it namor knows it so it kinda helps namor to know that wolverine is limited with his battle options namor coiuld either A out slug logan (and yes he can go h2h with him just fine and the strenght diffrence will ko logan sooner or later)or B smash him with a very large object, i'm not saying that namor wont get cut if he goes hand to hand with logan he will but at the same time wolverine wont own him in a h2h fight either namor has a lot of skill and experiance as well and wolverine wont be able to beat him without use of the claws, again a limited amount of things he can do and due to this namor's greater amount of versitlity in this fight that's why i belive he will take the majority

Originally posted by jinzin

it's certainly not that namor's too skilled for wolverine, in terms of fighting skills wolverine would make namor look like child's play...

Not really. Namor is extremely skilled on his own area of fighting. As skilled as Wolverine is on his. Honestly, Wolverine's fighting skills don't apply for shit here. What is he going to do? Grapple him? Use nerve points? Kick him? Punch him?

The stuff he uses on ninjas and mercenaries don't really help him here.

Originally posted by jinzin
it's definitely not speed... namor's best feats of speed outside of water have easily been comparatively reproduced by wolverine and on more occasions...

Except that Wolverine still has nothing that even comes close to comparing jumps from meteor to meteor and sculpting a statue in a second...

Originally posted by jinzin
it's definitely not a speed blitz... namor's tried that trick on captain america on several occasions.. once was from behind, on all occassions cap was fast enough to react...

Except that Namor has never speedblizted Captain America...

Worked on Spider-Man, though.

Originally posted by jinzin
it's definitely not reflexes.... namor's constantly hit by street level fighters, thugs, and hell even u.s. soldiers... he'd have to be well beyond spiderman's level in the speed/reflex department to remain unscathed in a h2h with wolvie, which he ain't... again, their feats stack up well with eachother...

Who said that he will remain totally unscathed?

Wolverine is just not doing any lasting damage unless he is constantly aiming for stomach, and Namor has been in enough fights to be able to protect his...

And like said before, Namor can easily dodge all those things you mentioned if he wishes, and he HAS.

Originally posted by jinzin
it's not his durability, wolverine's already shown that 2 stabs of 3 12inch claws can put namor down.

Sure, if he just stands there and lets him stab straight in stomach, like in their previous fights.

Originally posted by jinzin
it's not his stength because out of water he's had trouble lifting anchor's and frankly he's consistently shown to be at or around thing's level if anything. bottom line, wolverine's dealt with people of his strength and greater and has done fine.

Are you suffering from Alzheimer's disease, or just plain forgetting stuff on purpose?

The anchor thing is one. Single. Low. Showing.

Namor has done plenty of Class 100 feats outside of water.

Originally posted by jinzin
so there's really no reason not to believe that wolvie would give namor all sorts of hell up close and personal... none of namor's feats show him doing what he'd have to do in this fight to prove otherwise.

Of course they don't, if you just disregard them like you have done thus far...