Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And that blast is what to MJJ? Hell the LT has held more than that in the palm of his hand. Try again.
You were told,
MM blocked Beyonder's full power.
The Multiverse was and is Infinite:
In an analogy made by Marvel,
Beyonder's Infinite Universe was an Ocean,
The Infinite Multiverse was a Drop of water in comparison.
Not to get geeky but,
in terms of quantifiable numbers,
that's somewhere over 20-25 Quintillions times larger.
1 Million Thousands = 1 Million
1 Billion = 1000 Millions
1 Trillion = 1000 Billions
1 Quadrillion = 1000 Trillions
1 Quintillion = 1000 Quadrillion
So ... 20-25 Quintillions is a pretty big number above Infinity I'd say.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Yes, But Can one destroy the universe MJJ lives in if he doesn't want it destroyed? yes or no?
Not just anyone can,
but MM can.
MM > LT
LT > JJ
Originally posted by Mr Master
You were told,MM blocked Beyonder's full power.
The Multiverse was and is Infinite:
In an analogy made by Marvel,
Beyonder's Infinite Universe was an Ocean,
The Infinite Multiverse was a Drop of water in comparison.Not to get geeky but,
in terms of quantifiable numbers,
that's somewhere over 20-25 Quintillions times larger.1 Million Thousands = 1 Million
1 Billion = 1000 Millions
1 Trillion = 1000 Billions
1 Quadrillion = 1000 Trillions
1 Quintillion = 1000 QuadrillionSo ... 20-25 Quintillions is a pretty big number above Infinity I'd say.
Not just anyone can,
but MM can.
MM > LT
LT > JJ
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um, So your saying that MM who only has multiversal feats and fought a depowered Beyonder is More powerful than The Current LT who has NO superiors at all? No. Just no.
Actually Beyonder was not depowered by the time he battled MM.
He had stripped himself of all his power to become Human with a machine he creatred,
he then freaked out at his mortality, went back into the Machine,
and that's where the famous scan comes from that states
Beyonder's power in comparison with the Multiverse combined:
A few pages later in this issue, Beyonder and MM go toe to toe.
Both at full power.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Unless you think that MM is equal to the heart of the universe?
THOTI >>> MM
Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually Beyonder was not depowered by the time he battled MM.He had stripped himself of all his power to become Human with a machine he creatred,
he then freaked out at his mortality, went back into the Machine,
and that's where the famous scan comes from that states
Beyonder's power in comparison with the Multiverse combined:A few pages later in this issue, Beyonder and MM go toe to toe.
Both at full power.
THOTI >>> MM
So then, The LT is not nearly as close to Omnipotent as you had us believe. If so many others can take up space inbetween he and the One above all. let's see, it ain't looking good for LT. TOAA>KIRBY AVatar>Thanos HOTU>Classic beyonder>Classic Molecule Man=THe Celestial>LT. That just doesn't seem fair to a guy who can hold mega verses in his hand and is judge over the omniverse that is marvel. I'd wager he's got more power than just over the omniverse. Cuz marvel could in a snap, make yet another omniverse, and guess who would be the judge? Yep. The LT.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
So then, The LT is not nearly as close to Omnipotent as you had us believe. If so many others can take up space inbetween he and the One above all. let's see, it ain't looking good for LT. TOAA>KIRBY AVatar>Thanos HOTU>Classic beyonder>Classic Molecule Man=THe Celestial>LT. That just doesn't seem fair to a guy who can hold mega verses in his hand and is judge over the omniverse that is marvel. I'd wager he's got more power than just over the omniverse. Cuz marvel could in a snap, make yet another omniverse, and guess who would be the judge? Yep. The LT.
The thing is Classic MM & Beyonder don't exist at such levels anymore,
that's exactly the reason why their power was retconned, because it was too ridiculous.
Toaa > Kirby (actually Artists's) Avatar? (they're the same cat so that's impossible)
Toaa/god are Two cats in one (Artists & Writers of any given story)
Tooa/god is a given > LT (you know the reasons)
THOTI is Toaa/god's power withIn the Omniverse so obviously > LT
They shoudn't even count because of said reasons.
Which leaves us with Scathan,
and as explained thoroughly,
Scathan must've been acting as a direct representative of the Toaa/god's authority,
during that single issue (GOTG #49) based on, On Panel allusions.
So current LT is still >>> current Marvel Omniverse any and all characters.
Originally posted by Mr Master
The thing is Classic MM & Beyonder don't exist at such levels anymore,
that's exactly the reason why their power was retconned, because it was too ridiculous.Toaa > Kirby (actually Artists's) Avatar? (they're the same cat so that's impossible)
Toaa/god are Two cats in one (Artists & Writers of any given story)Tooa/god is a given > LT (you know the reasons)
THOTI is Toaa/god's power withIn the Omniverse so obviously > LTThey shoudn't even count because of said reasons.
Which leaves us with Scathan,
and as explained thoroughly,
Scathan must've been acting as a direct representative of the Toaa/god's authority,
during that single issue (GOTG #49) based on, On Panel allusions.So current LT is still >>> current Marvel Omniverse any and all characters.
Originally posted by guy222
Jaspers returnsLT's last feat
The LT is a scary being. This is proof that the 616 can't be the back bone of the marvel multiverse and omniverse if he would so easily replace one with the other. Or he would be so mighty as to actually change the physical make up of the entire Marvel u by just making the Ultimate verse the Spine of marvel.
I have always said LT is second to his boss(TOAA)
Jaspers merging with Fury is powerful as well. He'll lose to LT. Prolly lose to Cap Britain using Excalibur and the Amulet
Marvel made a splash with Reece/Man from Beyond nearly 24 yrs ago. Remember Secret Wars. Those all powerful characters have been retconned
