IT would seem, anyone who doesn't think like you, or has superior logic, is in your eyes, wrong.
He's not using logic. He's twisting what the scan says. It makes no mention of a certain infinity over a certain force. It just says different levels of infinity.
It's weird that logic to you means that "what I say is what the comic is saying (even though the comic never says it)
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl616 is just the number Marvel uses to reference their 'prime' Universe at this point in time -- Don't get too caught up in the number system, because a number is not what makes said Universe(s) important... 😉
according to master, if you fold the 616 or destroy it, all of marvel falls to pieces. SO i'm wondering how the Lt could do such a thing.
Anyhow,
It would seem that LT was going to put the Ultimate Universe in the 616 Universe's place... This would have made the Ultimate Universe, Marvel's new 'prime' Universe.
Hence,
Nothing would have been destroyed, because the 'prime' Universe would've still been intact.
Make sense? 🙂
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
He's not using logic. He's twisting what the scan says. It makes no mention of a certain infinity over a certain force.It just says different levels of infinity.
👆 Precisely.
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
It's weird that logic to you means that "what I say is what the comic is saying (even though the comic never says it)
😂 It's not that wierd to me, he's tried before to twist what the scan says.
Kinda eerily reminds me of someone. Hmm ... I wonder.
Originally posted by Mr Master
The question is,DOES MARVEL HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF INFINITY?
(who cares if it's illogical blah, blah, blah ahh shut up)DOES MARVEL HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF INFINITY?
..............................................................Kubik says,
"Our power is as nothing to the Celestials"
Kosmos replies,
"But Kubik, do we not possess Infinite Power (Omnipotence)
Kubik retorts,
"Yes, Our might is Infinite. But there are Levels of Infinity"
..............................................................
It doesn't really say that, It was I that drew that issue and did the lettering. 😆
CONTINUES ...
Kubik finishes,
"Thus are demonstrated TWO LEVELS of INFINITY,
there are of course, an INFINITE number MORE"
..............................................................
whistling
Originally posted by Galan007
616 is just the number Marvel uses to reference their 'prime' Universe at this point in time -- Don't get too caught up in the number system, because a number is not what makes said Universe(s) important... 😉Anyhow,
It would seem that LT was going to put the Ultimate Universe in the 616 Universe's place... This would have made the Ultimate Universe, Marvel's new 'prime' Universe.
Hence,
Nothing would have been destroyed, because the 'prime' Universe would've still been intact.
Make sense? 🙂
👆 Exacto.
Originally posted by Burning thought
*shrug* lol, what if TOAA didnt favour LT, then its nothing tho isnt it?also LT is not omnipotent, otherwise TOAA wouldnt be....
not my fault if marvel bring a load of rubbish into some of their things, i mean how the hell can you remove a guy to a place outside of reality, stupid as hell...
LT is omnipotent. He is omnipotent relative to all characters that are regularly depicted and interact with each other in Marvel Comics. If you go beyond that, and go into characters, including LT himself, referencing supreme higher powers, depictions of writers/artists creating/removing characters from stroylines/sketchpads, and things of that nature, then LT is not omnipotent, because the TOAA is, as you mention.
The thing everyone gets hung up here on these forums is the definition of omnipotent. What people forget is that omnipotent is a very relative term.
Example, to you and me, if someone (for argument's sake) like MJJ were alive, he would be omnipotent. However clearly, God, or TOAA, is omnipotent. Does that make Jaspers any less all-powerful in our eyes? NO.
So to clarify, LT is omnipotent relative to the rest of the MU. TOAA is above the MU and is omnipotent in comparison with everything else. However all discussions here on the forum relate to characters depicted in the comics and who regularly intereact with each other, and in this context LT is supreme.
Originally posted by Tenebrous
LOL Guy. it's hard isn't itLT governs all realities in the MU. MJJ has dominion over reality itself but LT is a proxy for The One Above All....i.e. LT acts on behalf of TOAA. LT is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent....jaspers is omnipotent only in his sphere of power, i.e. reality. That's how fury defeated him in their battle, by moving jaspers to a situation where they existed outside reality (as stupid as that is). LT is higher than any single reality, or realities. Tribinual holds realities in his hand...all jaspers can do is shape those realities as he sees fit....LT is higher than jaspers because jaspers is constricted by his powerset....he manipulates reality, but LT actually is above the concept of reality.
👆
Originally posted by Tenebrous
LT is omnipotent. He is omnipotent relative to all characters that are regularly depicted and interact with each other in Marvel Comics. If you go beyond that, and go into characters, including LT himself, referencing supreme higher powers, depictions of writers/artists creating/removing characters from stroylines/sketchpads, and things of that nature, then LT is not omnipotent, because the TOAA is, as you mention.The thing everyone gets hung up here on these forums is the definition of omnipotent. What people forget is that omnipotent is a very relative term.
Example, to you and me, if someone (for argument's sake) like MJJ were alive, he would be omnipotent. However clearly, God, or TOAA, is omnipotent. Does that make Jaspers any less all-powerful in our eyes? NO.So to clarify, LT is omnipotent relative to the rest of the MU. TOAA is above the MU and is omnipotent in comparison with everything else. However all discussions here on the forum relate to characters depicted in the comics and who regularly intereact with each other, and in this context LT is supreme.
i suppose thats fair enough, but i still hate the thing really, Jaspers is at least a cool powerful being 🙂
Originally posted by King Kandy
You don't need to be a smartass about it.EVERY issue? I bet I can find one where he's not.
I fact, I'd like you to find me one where he IS.
Good thing On Panel>Bio. Especially when the bio's confirm that the Scathan Incident happened.
What about Last Planet Standing? Does it not count as well?
I guess if by "20 Years of established facts" you mean a bio and some unscanned "On Panel Evidence".
Surely you have to concede that Scathan>Eternity though, right? Because it's pure BS if you don't.
You can't use "LT>Celestials" to prove "LT>Scathan". Clearly Scathan is the exception to the rule, as a celestial that is NOT under LT.
The explanation that's simplest is that Scathan is simply more powerful then LT.
The Problem is that when you post things like "It is strongly supported" it gives the impression that it's obvious fact... When in truth there's really nothing there to support it.
Originally posted by Tenebrous
LT is omnipotent. He is omnipotent relative to all characters that are regularly depicted and interact with each other in Marvel Comics. If you go beyond that, and go into characters, including LT himself, referencing supreme higher powers, depictions of writers/artists creating/removing characters from stroylines/sketchpads, and things of that nature, then LT is not omnipotent, because the TOAA is, as you mention.The thing everyone gets hung up here on these forums is the definition of omnipotent. What people forget is that omnipotent is a very relative term.
Example, to you and me, if someone (for argument's sake) like MJJ were alive, he would be omnipotent. However clearly, God, or TOAA, is omnipotent. Does that make Jaspers any less all-powerful in our eyes? NO.So to clarify, LT is omnipotent relative to the rest of the MU. TOAA is above the MU and is omnipotent in comparison with everything else. However all discussions here on the forum relate to characters depicted in the comics and who regularly intereact with each other, and in this context LT is supreme.
👆
