can someone explain why phoenix's dematerializing or whatever she does, isn't the most powerful?? I don't know too much about her powers except for what i saw in the movie. I'm sure the movie is greatly flawed, but after seeing that movie and what phoenix can do, i can't image a greater power.. if youre an opponent, youre material, and that means you will be, dematerialized.. right??
Originally posted by Xplosive
It's Xplosive. 🙂You then actually in some way agree with me about Onslaught.
If we count Onslaught, then yes, he is in fifth place.
Okay
No but a combination of Nate Grey, Professor X and Magneto would still be enough to be consideret on of the worlds most powerful mutants.
Don't know if he is a mutant
Originally posted by Utrigita
okay he counts(still waiting for Mr Master to proof that Psi-Lord did destroy a alternate Universe)
Psi-Lord actually creates a Big Bang of Anti-Matter energy,
and attacks Vagaard with it:
"brace yourselves for the Big Bang"
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That Universe explodes:
"Inconceivable ...
Space/Time itself has been torn asunder by the resulting cataclysm,
young Richards' powers are vast"
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Psi-Lord would not have survive that "Big Bang" he created,
so he escaped that Universe's implosion at the last moment:
"An inspired stratagem Psi-Lord,
taking refuge from the implosion withIN your personal Sub-Space Pocket"
Originally posted by Galan007
Does that 'What If' count?
It really shouldn't,
but I'll have Phoenix fanboys attacking me all day if I don't give her atleast that 'What If' feat.
It would have been far more impressing had it been an Alternate Reality.
I actually stated it wrong, because indeed,
it was a Diverged Reality, not an Alternate.
Diverged Universes is one area of senselessness Marvel's Cosmology is stained with.
Originally posted by Mr MasterIt's pure crap -- But it's just easier to give her that feat, for argument's sake.
It really shouldn't,
but I'll have Phoenix fanboys attacking me all day if I don't give her atleast that 'What If' feat.It would have been far more impressing had it been an Alternate Reality.
I actually stated it wrong, because indeed,
it was a Diverged Reality, not an Alternate.
Diverged Universes is one area of senselessness Marvel's Cosmology is stained with.
Also,
What issue did Rachel fight a hungry Galactus in? I feel like checking that out for some reason.
Originally posted by Galan007
It's pure crap -- But it's just easier to give her that feat, for argument's sake.
👆
Most 'What Ifs' have pis, cis or pure garbage involved.
Originally posted by Galan007
Also,
What issue did Rachel fight a hungry Galactus in? I feel like checking that out for some reason.
That's in Excalibur #61
While you're at it, pick up a copy of Excalibur #25
(and witness Galactus about to ERASE the Phoenix Force from existence)
Galactus was actually in the process of doing it, (the Stars were literally going out)
but Uatu, Death and Roma talked him out of it.
(that's one you won't find in the R-thread)
Originally posted by Galan007
It's pure crap -- But it's just easier to give her that feat, for argument's sake.Also,
What issue did Rachel fight a hungry Galactus in? I feel like checking that out for some reason.
One of the reasons why I give WPofC such praisel is, because it can enter the Hot Room (outside the Marvel Multiverse), and effect the 616 reality, thanks to its total Telekinetic control of the Atoms.
However, I doubt we will ever see this feat done again, or in battle.
Originally posted by Mr Master
👆While you're at it, pick up a copy of Excalibur #25
(and witness Galactus about to ERASE the Phoenix Force from existence)Galactus was actually in the process of doing it, (the Stars were literally going out)
but Uatu, Death and Roma talked him out of it.
(that's one you won't find in the R-thread)
To be fair (and correct), its more like Galactus did not know the consequences of separating the Manifestation from the Host.
And it was through Rachael own decision that she went along with Galactus. This was due to the fact, that if they decided to fight. The consequences of their encounter would have bin a heavy.
After all its not like Galactus could just press a button, and boom. Death of the Phoenix, the host needed to be physically hooked up to the device in order to proceed with its function.
Originally posted by Mr MasterNow you've got me anxious. 😛
👆Most 'What Ifs' have pis, cis or pure garbage involved.
That's in Excalibur #61
While you're at it, pick up a copy of Excalibur #25
(and witness Galactus about to ERASE the Phoenix Force from existence)Galactus was actually in the process of doing it, (the Stars were literally going out)
but Uatu, Death and Roma talked him out of it.
(that's one you won't find in the R-thread)
Originally posted by id369
She had a few scrimmages with him I think, but the actual battle: its in Excalibur Volume 1 issue #61.
Galactus & Phoenix confronted each other once before,
Galactus wasn't in the mood to continue, but Jean called Galactus her equal.
Galactus stated that with time, he would destroy her.
When Galactus fought Rachel, he was Starving!
Originally posted by id369
One of the reasons why I give WPofC such praisel is, because it can enter the Hot Room (outside the Marvel Multiverse), and effect the 616 reality,
Phoenix has never affected the 616 Reality, from the WHR or anywhere else.
Phoenix was able to Repair the Alternate Future of Reality/Timeline 15104.
Phoenix was able to Heal Reality 15104 but through Scott.
It was Scott that actually Healed Reality 15104 by deciding to stay with the XMen & Emma.
Phoenix is given credit because she forced Scott into making that decision.
But it was Scott's decision that Altered Reality 15104 thus healing it.
Originally posted by id369
thanks to its total Telekinetic control of the Atoms.
Phoenix controls Space at the Atomic level.
Jamie controls Space at the Quantum level.
Jaspers control Reality itself, all levels.
HOM Wanda controls and creates Reality on all levels.
Havok/Nexus is the bridge between All Realities in the Omniverse.
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Big difference ey.
