Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
You don't have any evidence. Dazed does not = physical injuries. His body was not damaged in the least.
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
No you can't prove it.
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
There is no evidence to support that Cain can take damage without his shield.
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Neither is your opinion.
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
With the exception of the Thor issue, there is on panel evidence.
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Read my damn post and understand it. I never said Juggernaut took a full blast from Cyclops.
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
He took a Planet splitting blast from Cyclops and didn't budge he laughed it off.
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
It doesn't matter, Hulk Struggled to hold his ground. Then he struggled to step forward. Cain stood up right and laughed at it.
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
He doesn't need his shield to take those attacks. He didn't have it up when he fought Hulk all those times or other heavy hitters.
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
It is enough to say the writer didn't fully know of Juggernaut's capabilities.
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
No, there is only you who think his shield is the source of his durability.
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
I am done arguing back and forth with you. You keep posting the same crap over and over. You're not going to change your mind and I am not either.
Basically, you’re entire argument could be summed up as “Nuh-uh!”
Originally posted by Soljer
Juggernaut.Slugfest.
Two and two, my friend, two and two.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Harly not. Juggs isn't as strong as either as far as I'm concerned. He's just durable.
Stronger than both actually. As previously stated, Cain has the potential for unlimited strength. I don't feel like getting into a long discussion about it, so I'll give you this.
http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/?action=view¤t=Juggernautpower.jpg
"My poor deluded creature. It's not Cyttorak who restricts your power, my son; it's you."
Unlimited power, or unlimited strength? You choose.
Originally posted by Larceny
Stronger than both actually. As previously stated, Cain has the potential for unlimited strength. I don't feel like getting into a long discussion about it, so I'll give you this.http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/?action=view¤t=Juggernautpower.jpg
"My poor deluded creature. It's not Cyttorak who restricts your power, my son; it's you."
Unlimited power, or unlimited strength? You choose.
Potential BS. Do you know how many characters have that? Superman and Wonder Woman held the wieght of eternity. Lobo held a box that was equal to the weight of the universe. Hulk clapped a cosmos away. He isn't stronger than Superman or Thor. Unless you can prove other wise, he's just a durable brick to be somewhere in the class 100 range. And not on the high end. maybe Middle.
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Accel, you're still wrong. Each of the "points" you posted can be rebutted with what I already posted. You seem to have trouble reading and understanding.
"Of course he's invulnerable. That Thor fight was PIS. The writer called Cain a mutant so it doesn't count."
"How's it PIS? When has Cain ever been established as invulnerable specifically without the shield?"
"Lots of times!"
"Like when?"
"Like.. like lots of times!"
Originally posted by Accel
"I don't think Juggernaut is invulnerable without his shield. His fight with Thor shows that.""Of course he's invulnerable. That Thor fight was PIS. The writer called Cain a mutant so it doesn't count."
"How's it PIS? When has Cain ever been established as invulnerable specifically without the shield?"
"Lots of times!"
"Like when?"
"Like.. like lots of times!"
Lol cute, altering a post to try and get at someone.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Potential BS. Do you know how many characters have that? Superman and Wonder Woman held the wieght of eternity. Lobo held a box that was equal to the weight of the universe. Hulk clapped a cosmos away. He isn't stronger than Superman or Thor. Unless you can prove other wise, he's just a durable brick to be somewhere in the class 100 range. And not on the high end. maybe Middle.
Why do I care? "Other" characters aren't relevant to this discussion.
Superman and WW didn't hold the weight of Eternity. The helped guide down the weight of a supposedly extremely heavy entity. This entity happened to weigh less than the moon. Not that it matters as thats completely irrelevant to Cain's potential for unlimited strength.
No he didn't.
Hulk = unlimited strength, although that feat is a tad bit exaggerated.
None of these counter the idea of Juggernauts potential for unlimited strength. You fail, yet again.
Originally posted by Larceny
Why do I care? "Other" characters aren't relevant to this discussion.Superman and WW didn't hold the weight of Eternity. The helped guide down the weight of a supposedly extremely heavy entity. This entity happened to weigh less than the moon. Not that it matters as thats completely irrelevant to Cain's potential for unlimited strength.
No he didn't.
Hulk = unlimited strength, although that feat is a tad bit exaggerated.
None of these counter the idea of Juggernauts potential for unlimited strength. You fail, yet again.
Potential means shit on these boards. Show him using it. And Actually the Spectre weighted far more than the moon. He said he housed the entire consiousness of eternity. When he touches down on the earth, you dont' see him crushing the ground do you? Obviously he's got some kind of built in, do not destroy much needed celestial bodies button built in. The Juggernaut is NOT stronger than Superman nor is he stronger than Thor. You have yet to prove it. Hell, If he had unlimited strength, as you presume he does, then how the hell did his might swell a hundred fold in 8thday? Something unlmited can't get mightier. Duh.
Originally posted by Accel
It was basically our whole conversation in a nutshell.Still waiting for the rebuttal that's supposed to prove me wrong (i.e. those instances I was referring to)
Nice try, like I said believe what you want. There is no proof. And believe it or not in comics writers and editors do make mistakes. That is one instance you dwell on, which really didn't make your argument any better. Sure Cains mind was jarred in that issue, but that is the only issue. Cain left that battle field unscathed and uninjured. That is the only way Thor could win. Everything you posted has a counter point posted earlier. Basically all you have posted is Thor ish this Thor ish that.
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Nice try, like I said believe what you want. There is no proof. And believe it or not in comics writers and editors do make mistakes. That is one instance you dwell on, which really didn't make your argument any better. Sure Cains mind was jarred in that issue, but that is the only issue. Cain left that battle field unscathed and uninjured. That is the only way Thor could win. Everything you posted has a counter point posted earlier. Basically all you have posted is Thor ish this Thor ish that.
Otherwise, if it doesn't directly contradict any thing, it can't possibly be PIS.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Potential means shit on these boards. Show him using it. And Actually the Spectre weighted far more than the moon. He said he housed the entire consiousness of eternity. When he touches down on the earth, you dont' see him crushing the ground do you? Obviously he's got some kind of built in, do not destroy much needed celestial bodies button built in. The Juggernaut is NOT stronger than Superman nor is he stronger than Thor. You have yet to prove it. Hell, If he had unlimited strength, as you presume he does, then how the hell did his might swell a hundred fold in 8thday? Something unlmited can't get mightier. Duh.
I already gave you all the proof you needed. His master blatantly stating he's not limiting his power. No limits = unlimited.
Do you even know what Eternity means? Forever, it has nothing to do with weight.
How bout he doesn't weigh nearly as much as you claim?
Cain Marko is stronger than both Superman and Thor.
I just provided proof. Whether or not you accept it, is not my problem.
