Hulk and Juggernaut versus Darkseid and Thanos in Pure Slugfest Battle

Originally posted by Accel
Which was much more than what you posted. You keep viewing this as PIS. Did it ever occur to you that the Thor fight was the defining moment of how Juggernaut's shield works?

Otherwise, if it doesn't directly contradict any thing, it can't possibly be PIS.

I somewhat view it as this way, if the Godblast isn't mystical, Juggernaut would survive uninjured without the shield. Basically if it is just energy hitting him, then he would be okay. If it is mystical(they type to harm Juggernaut through magic) then he would need his shield to come out unscathed.

By the way there are comic labeling him as invincible. One time beast even said that he is still invulnurable without his shield.

Originally posted by Larceny
I already gave you all the proof you needed. His master blatantly stating he's not limiting his power. No limits = unlimited.

Do you even know what Eternity means? Forever, it has nothing to do with weight.

How bout he doesn't weigh nearly as much as you claim?

Cain Marko is stronger than both Superman and Thor.

I just provided proof. Whether or not you accept it, is not my problem.

That is your proof? What his master stated? OMG. 😆 😆 😆 His master doesn't even have unlimited might.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That is your proof? What his master stated? OMG. 😆 😆 😆 His master doesn't even have unlimited might.

His master has the power to grant unlimited strength. As if you knew anything of Cyttorak in the first place. 🙄

Originally posted by Accel
Which was much more than what you posted. You keep viewing this as PIS. Did it ever occur to you that the Thor fight was the defining moment of how Juggernaut's shield works?

Otherwise, if it doesn't directly contradict any thing, it can't possibly be PIS.

That'd make sense if Cain's durability derived from his force field. However just as he isn't a mutant, his durability doesn't derive from his enchanted force field.

Originally posted by Larceny
His master has the power to grant unlimited strength. As if you knew anything of Cyttorak in the first place. 🙄

Could Cyttorak beat Galactus? And we know galactus doesn't have infinite power. Well can he? Can he beat Odin? Could he beat let's say, a celestial? how about eternity. Since you know, he just happens to have infinite power. Juggernaut has NOt one feat in his history to suggest he has infinite strength. Hell, He got a hundred fold boost in 8th day. that tells you right there he doesn't have infinite strength.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Could Cyttorak beat Galactus? And we know galactus doesn't have infinite power. Well can he? Can he beat Odin? Could he beat let's say, a celestial? how about eternity. Since you know, he just happens to have infinite power. Juggernaut has NOt one feat in his history to suggest he has infinite strength. Hell, He got a hundred fold boost in 8th day. that tells you right there he doesn't have infinite strength.

They've never fought. However Galactus was once briefly entangled by Cyttoraks indestructible crimson bands. The Bands that supposedly keep the Universe intact.

Infinite and Unlimited are two different things my friend. However Galactus does have a level of unlimited power just as Odin, and others do.

I don't know, he's never had the opportunity to fight any of the characters mentioned.

His fight with WWH does. He fought Savage Hulk on equal terms of strength, and did the same with the stronger WWH. Meaning that when the situation requires it, he can increase his strength. Cyttorak confirms this.

His power was increased by the same entity who grants his power all the time. The same Entity that stated he's put no bounds on Cain's power.

Originally posted by Larceny
They've never fought. However Galactus was once briefly entangled by Cyttoraks indestructible crimson bands. The Bands that supposedly keep the Universe intact.

Infinite and Unlimited are two different things my friend. However Galactus does have a level of unlimited power just as Odin, and others do.

I don't know, he's never had the opportunity to fight any of the characters mentioned.

His fight with WWH does. He fought Savage Hulk on equal terms of strength, and did the same with the stronger WWH. Meaning that when the situation requires it, he can increase his strength. Cyttorak confirms this.

His power was increased by the same entity who grants his power all the time. The same Entity that stated he's put no bounds on Cain's power.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Putting no bounds on someone doesn't mean they have unlimtied power. Potential is just that. The Juggernaut has never shown to be stronger than thor or superman except in 8th day, where a specific amp is shown.

No bounds on power mean exactly what I've been saying the entire time. The potential for unlimited strength.

He's physically stronger than Thor, which has been shown in nearly every encounter and he's stronger than Superman.

In a pure slugfest Cain wins this fight.

Originally posted by Larceny
No bounds on power mean exactly what I've been saying the entire time. The potential for unlimited strength.

He's physically stronger than Thor, which has been shown in nearly every encounter and he's stronger than Superman.

In a pure slugfest Cain wins this fight.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um no. He has not a feat. He hasn't proven to be stronger than thor. Just more resiliant. And no way in hell is he stronger than superman. Superman is also stronger than thor, so your argument doesn't hold up. What are his strength feats? has he bent adamantium? Pulled any planets? Cracked any skyfathers in the dome?

He has plenty. Dominating nearly every foe he's faced regardless of their physical stature, and amping his strength to the level of WWH are some pretty convincing feats to me.

Physically dominating Thor equates to him being stronger than Thor.

You're obviously are unaware of the definition of the term "resilient". Resilient being returning to the original form or position after being bent, compressed, or stretched. Nothing to do with why he's consistently shown as Thor's physical superior.

Superman being stronger than Thor is up for debate. However if Clark does happen to be Thor's physical superior, it's by a small margin.

Nope, just dominated all who's opposed him.

Originally posted by Larceny
He has plenty. Dominating nearly every foe he's faced regardless of their physical stature, and amping his strength to the level of WWH are some pretty convincing feats to me.

Physically dominating Thor equates to him being stronger than Thor.

You're obviously are unaware of the definition of the term "resilient". Resilient being returning to the original form or position after being bent, compressed, or stretched. Nothing to do with why he's consistently shown as Thor's physical superior.

Superman being stronger than Thor is up for debate. However if Clark does happen to be Thor's physical superior, it's by a small margin.

Nope, just dominated all who's opposed him.

The thing is dominating everybody he has fought doesnt mean much because he is no superman level beings in marvel for the most part

the closest off the top of my head is gladiator but even he is fractional compared to supes

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
The thing is dominating everybody he has fought doesnt mean much because he is no superman level beings in marvel for the most part

the closest off the top of my head is gladiator but even he is fractional compared to supes

Superman's power level is often times defined by Marvel characters.