Nothing wrong with theorizing tiers, man. It is your passion!
BTW I laughed out loud and almost puked my beer when I went to Shoryuken and saw Guile's section with over 298 viewers last night when it only averages 8 per day. Talk about jumping the bandwagon! rofl. It is going to be fun whooping the newb Guiles. Especially with Juri.
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For the lolz
JESUS!!!
Players are pretty damn fickle. Guile's bandwagon "Just Got Wicked". What happened to all the crushed feelings rmikabutthurt?
I found this parody and I gotta say it's pretty damn funny, imo!
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Originally posted by No End N Site
JESUS!!!Players are pretty damn fickle. Guile's bandwagon "Just Got Wicked". What happened to all the crushed feelings rmikabutthurt?
I found this parody and I gotta say it's pretty damn funny, imo!
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Dictator for president!
The guy playing Ken looks more like Rufus dur
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Nothing wrong with theorizing tiers, man. It is your passion!BTW I laughed out loud and almost puked my beer when I went to Shoryuken and saw Guile's section with over 298 viewers last night when it only averages 8 per day. Talk about jumping the bandwagon! rofl. It is going to be fun whooping the newb Guiles. Especially with Juri.
heh.. I was always hoping he'd get buffed.. but I think when people realise that they arent daigo, they're prolly gonna rage-quit n switch to guy or cody XD
that daigo / valle thing was just really inspirational.. I think its been a while since I was actually laughing out loud and feeling excited about a match in SFIV series
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
heh.. I was always hoping he'd get buffed.. but I think when people realise that they arent daigo, they're prolly gonna rage-quit n switch to guy or cody XDthat daigo / valle thing was just really inspirational.. I think its been a while since I was actually laughing out loud and feeling excited about a match in SFIV series
Agreed. I know 3/4 the guys using Guile will just quit in frustration when they realize 3 things: They won't be mashing DPs anymore; they will get eaten alive while they learn their proper spacing and normals and how the charge will probably not suit their playstyle. But it is still nice IMO. About time Guile got some love, and I for one do not mind them. If they come from playing as Ryu/Sagat only they will wake up and smell the coffee sooner than later. At least I will be able to beat a few of them before real Guile players rip Juri a new one. Valle took Daigo to school with U1 =D
So it seems some jackass stole some equipment that had lots of footage from the event that they were going to use to promote SSF4 as well as documentary on Daigo and lots of fan-favorites moments. Chances are slim but I hope they at least return the footage.
Valle looks like he could shoryuken Daigo's head off his shoulders. The guy is big
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Can someone link me the Valle vs Daigo match?
I was just watching it again so:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXIFMmQOlqU
You can see both of them missing some easy links/combos. I know no one is perfect and 100% mistake free matches are not possible, but I do believe the different timing in links messed them up a bit. And in Valle's case the stupid DP shortcut ~_~
JustFrame I'm curious; do you have any idea how Valle & Daigo's win/lose ratio against each other is now?
Valle vs Daigo in their win/loss ratio against each other, I really don't know, if I have to run off the top of my head, Daigo has the edge here with more wins I believe.
However, please do take, that after Alpha 3 or 1998, Valle has not been the same dedicated player (meaning that he's prioritized himself to do other things more so then simply play SF every day after Alpha 3), where as during 96-98, nobody could touch the Prime Alex Valle. Even to this day, I still believe that had Valle of been given the entire stated amount of sets to play Daigo in alpha 3 during that 98 championship match he would have turned things around instead of having those Capcom rep's skewer the whole situation in favor of Daigo which was bs imo, yeah, Valle isn't bitter about it, but it still annoys me, although it really shouldn't. Again, I posted a few pages back that it was supposed to be Two different styles for the Championship, they were supposed to play Japanese Format first, which was a Single Two round Default match, in which Valle won, but they reps didn't do anything at this point.
The Second setup would be USA style which was to be a Best out of Seven match up, but they just gave Daigo the win after being up only 2-1. So to me, that's still bs on how the Reps of Capcom did that. Everyone should know that at the highest level of play when at this time, both Valle and Daigo were absolutely equal in skill and level, anything could have happened.
Daigo on the other hand has obviously stayed consistently with the competition of SF throughout the majority of the 2000+ era. While Valle Post-1998 has more to do with family, and work instead of SF, so thus at the current versions of themselves, Daigo is definitely better then Valle.
Again though, not to discount Alex because during his Prime when he competed against both Top USA and Japanese players he completely dominated everyone and lost only once to one player ever...and that was against Jeff Schaeffer (As stated during this youtube video about Alex and Alpha 2, however please don't think Jeff>Alex in A2, because even Jeff has said it over that Alex was way better then anyone in Alpha2).
Justin Wong in actuality contends much better against Daigo now then Valle, simply because Wong plays and practices SF more so then Valle (although Marn has posted in the IV Forums about a month back that Wong doesn't play IV or fighting games as much as he used too either as well anymore). Considering that every time Wong vs Daigo has gone down in SF:IV, it has always come down to the Final and Last set, so again Wong is better competition for Daigo.
So if you want my take on this, 96-98 Valle = Daigo (In playing Alpha 3 of course, no way anybody beats Valle in Alpha 2, and if I remember correctly Valle even annihilated the competition in Tekken 3, because I remember in an interview he said Alpha 2, Alpha 3, and Tekken 3 were his most played, played fighting games ever), however current Daigo> Current Valle, Daigo's tournament placings prove this notion.
Lmao at the Guile BandWagon, like I said, I'm not surprised. However within a few months you'll be able to separate the Real Guile players from the "I saw Daigo play Guile and he did good so I can probably do the same" Guile players soon enough. I encourage players who play Guile because they like his character and want to truly learn and master his fundamentals and gameplay, however if your simply choosing him because a big name player made him dominate then you will not succeed or go very far with him.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
I was just watching it again so:
Thanks. I'd be kind of lame if Capcom tempered with the timings.
Away from the Super Street Fighter IV as a video game, and looking at it from a storyline perspective I've been watching some of the SSF:IV stuff, and the way the "anime" at least portrays Juri, she looks ridiculously powerful from the trailer feed.
I mean, they show her holding up a shield that stops bullets, however the bullets don't "reflect" instead they hover at point, like as though she's got telekinesis of some sort (Potentially Dictator like I assume?). Also just from the aura she releases from her "eye" she's seen taking out an entire building facility blowing the top off sky high.
Then later she's seen fighting Chunli and Guile, as to how she does against Guile you simply don't see enough to find out, however she utterly and completely man handles Chunli like a rag. I mean, in that trailer, Chunli is trying hard, and doing everything she can, while Juri is sitting their with a smirk throughout the entire match and then finally goes "Okay, this was fun enough, now it's time for me to end this" and she OCV's Chunli with one kick to the chest.
Yes, although right now, this anime may or may not be canon, however if the feats Juri is doing right here within the anime is feasible to her character, then all I have to say is she is going to be one powerful character, though most likely not Dictator, Gouki, Gill, Oro level, she could possibly be on the level of others like Ryu and such, who knows, we'll have to find out.
I seriously cannot wait for Capcom to give us more insight on her and her powers.
Spoiler Alert: From what I've written below things pertaining to Gouki's ending so so do not read beyond this point if you don't want to be spoiled on the ending.
Okay, it looks to me like Capcom wants to put their own "version" of Goku into the world of Street Fighter. In his ending it shows him shaking the terrain that he's at and then sending out a shockwave that wipes out a large portion of that vicinity (the terrible part is that the animation is inconsistent, because in the first frame of the explosion it looks like he wipes out that entire valley which looks like multiple miles in distance, then later it shows him only taking out a few hundred yards...like seriously Capcom, that makes absolutely no sense, which one is legit then, lol) however the beam that he sends vertically goes beyond the clouds reaching into the stratosphere or however far it goes...LMAO.
Sooner or later, I will probably start calling Gouki, Goku, by the time Street Fighter V comes around, look to Gouki being capable of blowing up an entire planet, I'm vouching it right now, the dude is getting stupid overpowered.
Sorry for the double post, but lmao, my cousin got this game already (by other means, rofl) and he's been requesting me to show up at his house for the past two hours now, haha.
I guess "if" I'm not lazy or if I just feel like it then I'll go over and teach those young bucks that although the Big Dog is no longer who he used to be, that he'll still take care of business with Ryu. I swear, sometimes I wished it was the 1993 Me, then they'd all be weeping at my feet while I will be "holding back" like 50% of my abilities too.
Originally posted by dvampire
How can we tell if it's Shin Akuma or not? I thought Shin Akuma was when he goes all out, so maybe that was Shin Akuma in his SSIV ending. They should use the Capcom vs SNK Shin Akuma look, that way people will know the difference between normal Akuma and Shin Akuma.
Shin Akuma either has white hair or a purple gi or both. I'm inclined to believe his 2nd Impact look is what it looks like now. It's the last game Shin Akuma was in.
Current Shin Akuma
Shin Gouki or what not doesn't change in apparel or look at all, the game only does this so that you can be able to interpret between the two. However, Gouki holding back is usually nearly all of the occasions that we have seen here.
In training, I am inclined to believe that he most of the time is holding back his full powers, simply because when he's going full blown, his aura is ridiculous with a significant notice that he is most likely going 100%. I mean, he sunk that island in Alpha 2, and he wasn't even going 100%, so at least at this point, I'm inclined to believe that what he did in SSF:IV the ending would not have needed to be full power.
Also, lol, I forgot, but you see Gouki shaking the ground in both the intro and ending of SSF:IV, dude is ridiculous if he's able to cause seismic activity with just the energy aura he's dispersing.
Originally posted by No End N Site
Shin Akuma either has white hair or a purple gi or both. I'm inclined to believe his 2nd Impact look is what it looks like now. It's the last game Shin Akuma was in.Current Shin Akuma
Yeah that's the look he should have when going all-out, I thought he only looked that way in vs games though, I never played 2nd impact.