I guess her strong point is the easiness of her ultra combo and super combo. It's very easy to use her ultra combo after an EX hurricane kick since it's guarenteed to hit if timed right.
Her super combo (I don't know the name of it) is a series of low trips, which means it can't be blocked unless the opponent is crouch-blocking. If someone is blocking her shoryuken (and they're most likely standing while blocking), then she can cancel into her super combo for a very effective finish.
I saw a video of someone doing it, so I'll post it if I can find it again.
Who the hell said Akuma was GOOD in this game?!! He is a watery piece of shit. I thought Akuma would be better cuz he had EXs but EXs don't make up for supers. I found my self tryin' to do the MetsatsuGouShoRyu ALL THE TIME!
Gouken is where it's at, tho. And I remember peeps sayin' Ryu was 1 of the best. I can not hack it wit that dude. And since when was Cammy not a charge character? I go alot of complaints wit this damn game.
I geuss I should add it to the fact that I have NEVER played this game on anything less than "Hardest". I'm gonna play it on "Medium" so that I can have more fun rather then fight for my life er round. When you jump into this game on "Hardest wit ver lil practice (Trail Mode Normal) you tend to fight to win rather than learn how to play the game. You think your gonna pull of a SGS on a character beyond the 2nd stage wit out gettin' your shit squashed no matter how well you time it, you got another thing commin'.
Peeps were mad at me on Live cuz I played "cheap". But go play the game on "Hardest" AND tell me that it wont fashion you to do what ever you need to win. Even when you think your playin' for fun.
Originally posted by I am who I am
Who the hell said Akuma was GOOD in this game?!! He is a watery piece of shit. I thought Akuma would be better cuz he had EXs but EXs don't make up for supers. I found my self tryin' to do the MetsatsuGouShoRyu ALL THE TIME!Gouken is where it's at, tho. And I remember peeps sayin' Ryu was 1 of the best. I can not hack it wit that dude. And since when was Cammy not a charge character? I go alot of complaints wit this damn game.
I geuss I should add it to the fact that I have NEVER played this game on anything less than "Hardest". I'm gonna play it on "Medium" so that I can have more fun rather then fight for my life er round. When you jump into this game on "Hardest wit ver lil practice (Trail Mode Normal) you tend to fight to win rather than learn how to play the game. You think your gonna pull of a SGS on a character beyond the 2nd stage wit out gettin' your shit squashed no matter how well you time it, you got another thing commin'.
Peeps were mad at me on Live cuz I played "cheap". But go play the game on "Hardest" AND tell me that it wont fashion you to do what ever you need to win. Even when you think your playin' for fun.
...... wow...
I just cant believe you said I suck.. and you spew out this mess
First off.. he's far from a watery piece of shit.. in fact.. he's in the top tier with Sag...the reason you're not ever gonna land the super or ultra is because its a grab, not a hit.. and you have to bait it like a grab.. either with mind games.. or forcing people into a block stun / block animation and timing it for when they exit the stun to be grabbed..His EX's are amazing, and his supers arent meant to be spammed, because the ultra alone does more damage than any ultra in the game as far as I know...1p skills will only take you so far.. anyone that bothers to say "cheap" doesnt really know any better, IMO..
Cammy was never a charge character to my knowledge
chill and find who suits your style before you run around takin a dump on everyone dude 😆
Originally posted by SaTsuJiNWhoa guy, sorry to offend you and your SFIV glory...😆
...... wow...I just cant believe you said [b]I
suck.. and you spew out this messFirst off.. he's far from a watery piece of shit.. in fact.. he's in the top tier with Sag...the reason you're not ever gonna land the super or ultra is because its a grab, not a hit.. and you have to bait it like a grab.. either with mind games.. or forcing people into a block stun / block animation and timing it for when they exit the stun to be grabbed..His EX's are amazing, and his supers arent meant to be spammed, because the ultra alone does more damage than any ultra in the game as far as I know...1p skills will only take you so far.. anyone that bothers to say "cheap" doesnt really know any better, IMO..
Cammy was never a charge character to my knowledge
chill and find who suits your style before you run around takin a dump on everyone dude 😆 [/B]
Dude, when I said "you sucked" I was just jokin. I kinda got the feelin' you were gonna take that sooooo seriously. Somthin' told me to change my post but then I thought, "Nah, he'll know I'm just kiddin'." I was wrong...
You speak as if I don't know how to use the SGS effectively, er thang you just said I knew already. And of course it works EASILY on humans, but it just doesn't on the CPU for some reason. Some how they can weezzle their way out of it. The only way I can see it hittin' 100% is catchin'em while there dizzy and they fight too hard for that to happen. You make it sound like I said I get my ass kicked wit Akuma, I don't. It is just harder than ever before wit him.
And your right, Cammy was never a charge character, I got her moves mixed up wit Juni's. I think Cammy is at her best in this game, tho.
Originally posted by BackFireIn this game maybe. But compared to his other versions, I think this one is the weakest, I mean, just look at the vid below.
Akuma is very powerful in the hands of a skilled player. And it's common knowledge that for him his EX moves are more useful than his super is. His ultra is deadly but it's hard to land consistently.As far as I know Cammy was never a charge character.
C'mon! I am so use to that shit.
How many battle points have you guys stacked so far? I know they are almost meaningless what with all the quitters and annoying stuff, but I'm just curious. I hang around 1600 - 2200 right now. I just can't stop myself from using a random character every now and then. Can't take it too serious for some reason.
Originally posted by I am who I am
Whoa guy, sorry to offend you and your SFIV glory...😆Dude, when I said "you sucked" I was just jokin. I kinda got the feelin' you were gonna take that sooooo seriously. Somthin' told me to change my post but..
"sooooo seriously" eh? 😛
Honestly it doesnt matter.. I dont have SFIV pride / glory because atm.. I'm not really caring for this game so much..
As for SGS, it really shouldn't work easily on humans unless they are scrubs
Here are some Gouki SFIV Combos / Mixup, complete with some demon setups at the end
I really want to like this game.. but I cant really tell if the default 360 controller is bein a *****, or if its the input system preventing me from playing my full ability
the only char I have that actually responds correctly to my commands is abel...and even then the "smart" input system, when I get crossed up, will turn commands into the reverse version of unrelated commands..
Like last night I swear I did a half circle back and fierce for abels swing throw when this person whiffed a jump-in.. but he landed on the other side of me and it turned into a Falling Sky somehow.. (shoryuken motion + P) which of course has a very long whiff animation.. so I promptly got ultra'ed in the face for it.. /sigh
As for 3rd strike version.... 3rd strike is a game about jab resets and dizzy chains.. so of course he'd appear far better than now.. but I highly recommend some high level play vids featuring Aku / Gouki (SFIV naturally).. people are doing some crazy good shit
Originally posted by SaTsuJiNWell I REALLY like this game I'm just frustrated wit the whole gameply style. I'm use to rush/jump ins and doin' strings of attacks in combos to win. I hardly ever had to block in past SF games, all offense which is why I'm so good wit Ken and Akuma. To be the best at this game you need a good ground game...I never played SFII and never really cared for it so all that trapin' and planin' was never my style.
"sooooo seriously" eh? 😛Honestly it doesnt matter.. I dont have SFIV pride / glory because atm.. I'm not really caring for this game so much..
As for SGS, it really shouldn't work easily on humans unless they are scrubs
Here are some Gouki SFIV Combos / Mixup, complete with some demon setups at the end
I really want to like this game.. but I cant really tell if the default 360 controller is bein a *****, or if its the input system preventing me from playing my full ability
the only char I have that actually responds correctly to my commands is abel...and even then the "smart" input system, when I get crossed up, will turn commands into the reverse version of unrelated commands..
Like last night I swear I did a half circle back and fierce for abels swing throw when this person whiffed a jump-in.. but he landed on the other side of me and it turned into a Falling Sky somehow.. (shoryuken motion + P) which of course has a very long whiff animation.. so I promptly got ultra'ed in the face for it.. /sigh
As for 3rd strike version.... 3rd strike is a game about jab resets and dizzy chains.. so of course he'd appear far better than now.. but I highly recommend some high level play vids featuring Aku / Gouki (SFIV naturally).. people are doing some crazy good shit
I honestly think the problem your havin' is wit the controller and not you. I had the same problem until I borrowed my friends Ken controller.
I found that vid you posted to be VERY useful. I still don't understand 1 thing tho, can you start the SGS while in the air or durin' another move?
Originally posted by BackFireAint that the truth. Lenient to the MAX. Some times I think usin' the fightpad is cheatin'. For example...The SGS.
The game itself is actually really lenient when it comes to inputs. Pick up a fightpad/stick when they are restocked and you'll see a huge difference.
Lp, Lp, forward, Lk, and the ENTIRE right side of the controller (this includes HP, HK, and 3P all at once). And for some reason it still works, immediately at that. Also, just pressin' diagonal downward forwards twice really fast does Shoryukens and if you don't have a shoryuken like move, you'll do a super or ultra.
Originally posted by I am who I am
can you start the SGS while in the air or durin' another move?
You can.. but the final input has to be entered upon your recovery..
Like... air fireball... fall to the ground.. begin inputs so when akuma returns to neutral (available) stance, you are hittin the final inputs...
be aware that there is quite a bit of landing recovery when doing air fireballs.. so you may have to do it a lil later than you think
its the same ordeal with Ashura Senkuu (the teleport).. you begin the inputs as you travel and finish it simultaneously with Ashura's ending
[rant]There are also quite a few scrub ways to do SGS now.. which absolutely piss me off... (its worse than MK vs DC, where you just have to press angle and a button to do a special)[/rant]
regular demon : Lp , Lp , Forward + LK + HP
easy kara demon : Forward + LP + MP, (while still holding forward) LP + MP again, (the angle between down and forward) LK + HP
easy kara demon variation 2 : Forward + PPP, (while still holding forward) +PPP, (angle between down forward) PPP + LK
stick recommended for variation 2 cuz its hard on the pad
because normal command moves out prioritize other inputs... doing forward plus the 3 punches button will procure a forward+MP
also, holding forward, and then shifting to the angle between down and forward counts as another forward input... it makes doing demon hella easier
the thing with the kara demon is that it has 2 functions.. one is that it can cause your opponent to get into block animation but don't hit them with Forward+MP or you wont land the demon.. this is just to get them into blocking animation, which they cannot get out of once the freeze occurs... and 2, because forward + MP causes gouki to move forward and chop.. you are canceling it into a demon which is actually giving gouki a slight step forward (which is in turn, helping you get closer to grab, much much faster)..
just figured I'd throw that in there if you didnt know what kara was...
fierce kick + SGS would be a better kara.. but of course that doesn't come with the "easy demon" variations... you could only actually make use of this kara (because the move is a grab) if you miss the fierce kick on purpose, due to the inability to grab an opponent during block stun
Also, "Ultra" SGS doesnt grab immediately.. so it has a higher failure rate.. so theres no reason to kara it
I chose Dan in a match and the other guy chose Sagat. He got pissed because I beat him the 1st round. I knew I was going to die to Sagat, so i decide to Super Taunt him. He got paranoid and Ultraed me. He later pmed me. He told me he did on reaction, and that he would have let Dan finish because Dan is the shit.
Dan is the shit.