Originally posted by JustFrameI agree but you will always have SNK fanboiz who will ALWAYS find reasons to compare the two companies and talk about how SNK is so much better.
Juri will get slow love, it happens every single time, believe me, when Viper and Abel showed up almost nearly 90% of the people at srk.com hated both their looks, and dubbed Viper a "Snk" wannabe.However now, both are excepted and appreciated and I feel the same way will happen with Juri. To me though, Juri doesn't really look anything like a Snk, but taken more from, just as well as Snk has done, to make them more of an "anime" type character. Capcom is doing this on purpose to appeal to the "anime" people out there. Because my experience at Japan has told me this...people who don't even know how to play SNK games will play it simply because the characters look "anime" and have "modern" like personas.
I think she looks cool but that shirt or what ever you wanna call it looks like it was terribly painted on, they gotta fix that. Her Ultra is sick, tho.
Originally posted by JustFrame100% dude. I've even said that before but Kyo is still the baddest motha phucka to star in a fighter that aint Sol-Badguy.
It seems to me, Capcom is following route with the same "well if this what they like, then this is what we'll give them" routine. I'm just hoping that we don't start having all these "pretty people" trying to become fighters like in SNK, because that's why Street Fighter is still great to me. Just look at their main franchise characters....Ryu [B]looks like a real fighter....Kyo Kusanagi absolutely does not.[/B]
Originally posted by JustFrameI agree as well that Cap should chill wit all that anime sh1t and stick wit what got'em international appeal. Classic fighters. I must say that I too disliked the Super Option but boy do I not care to much for you thoughts about SFIII, yo. So much more better than IV. I can see your argument about why parry sucked but it was done so well. i found it to be very fun.
If we go from SF1 through SFIV, characters have become more and more anime type. The only time in which Street Fighter ever had real fighter archetypes was during Street Fighter 1, then Street Fighter II, it go more crazy with the likes of Blanka, Claw, Dictator, etc, etc.Not too much of a problem with me, still, I don't like the idea of bringing back a "Super of Choice" option. That was retarded in SFIII and I don't believe it'll do any real good as a whole in SFIV, yes, prove me wrong Capcom, because in SFIII, characters lived and died by their supers. Characters either just had one good super, while the rest were garbage, or else all of their supers sucked for that one particular character overall period.
Wow, the only things I truly ever liked about SFIII was their music and sprites, haha.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North😆 😂 🤣 Just noticed this. This is a classic for sure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3-b-B3O9to&feature=rec-HM-fresh+div
Originally posted by JustFrame
all these "pretty people" trying to become fighters like in SNK, because that's why Street Fighter is still great to me. Just look at their main franchise characters....Ryu [B]looks like a real fighter....Kyo Kusanagi absolutely does not.
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I dont think Kyo is a shining example of SNK's design.. but he's still cool
there are many other SNK characters that 'do' look like fighters
I have seen capcom make some great designs.. but I dont think Juri is one of them.. it might just be that her outfit is terrible.. she looks like some dirty harajuku stripper
but C.Viper is clearly Vanessa + Angelina Jolie
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
I dont think Kyo is a shining example of SNK's design.. but he's still coolthere are many other SNK characters that 'do' look like fighters
I have seen capcom make some great designs.. but I dont think Juri is one of them.. it might just be that her outfit is terrible.. she looks like some dirty harajuku stripper.
I used Kyo is because he's the poster boy flagship for Snk's fighting games much like Ryu is, and are in many ways the most well known characters of their fighting game franchises which is why I put those two as an example.
There are crappy designs from both sides of Capcom and Snk, however Juri to me actually looks way more pleasing then Viper did as a female character introduction into the game of SFIV (I couldn't stand Vipers hair above all else really). Juri looks more of a fighter then Viper did, and the way she's moving and fighting is also in my book, far more appealing as well (Although Vipers Burning Kick when slowed down, shows how truly artistic it is, because she actually flicks her feet together, which draws out a spark that then ignites into flames).
Again, to me personally, I don't feel she's a terribly design character at all. As for Viper looking like Vanessa+Angelina...that's questionable, yes, Viper shares some similarity to Vanessa in attire however if you throw in their fighting forms in-game. They are drastically different from one another in how they fight, which I feel is the more important factor.
Not trying to change your opinion of Juri Satsu, I'm just stating my beliefs on Juri's character 😄 .
Originally posted by Overdose
boy do I not care to much for you thoughts about SFIII, yo. So much more better than IV. I can see your argument about why parry sucked but it was done so well. i found it to be very fun.
I don't mind people liking Parry as an opinion that's fine however what I do mind is when people say (Not saying you btw) that it made Street Fighter better on a "strategical" level as fact, which is absolutely incorrect.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
And whats wrong with that?A Babe born from two babes.
Babelicious.
lol... just on an artistic level.. (it does look appealing).. but making a fighting game character, IMO, is your chance as an artist to show your true creativity.. and I dont think doing mix and match displays that
Originally posted by NemeBrolol.. if you see viper (no pun intended), and dont see angelina jolie right then and there, I dont know what to tell you
She barely looks anything like either of them. 😬If anything, her design is based off of a ****ing Elite Beat Agent (Kind of).
Originally posted by JustFrame
I used Kyo is because he's the poster boy flagship for Snk's fighting games much like Ryu is, and are in many ways the most well known characters of their fighting game franchises which is why I put those two as an example.There are crappy designs from both sides of Capcom and Snk, however Juri to me actually looks way more pleasing then Viper did as a female character introduction into the game of SFIV (I couldn't stand Vipers hair above all else really). Juri looks more of a fighter then Viper did, and the way she's moving and fighting is also in my book, far more appealing as well (Although Vipers Burning Kick when slowed down, shows how truly artistic it is, because she actually flicks her feet together, which draws out a spark that then ignites into flames).
Again, to me personally, I don't feel she's a terribly design character at all. As for Viper looking like Vanessa+Angelina...that's questionable, yes, Viper shares some similarity to Vanessa in attire however if you throw in their fighting forms in-game. They are drastically different from one another in how they fight, which I feel is the more important factor.
Not trying to change your opinion of Juri Satsu, I'm just stating my beliefs on Juri's character 😄 .
No, Juri actually does visually flow like a fighter.. and I've wanted taekwondo in SF for a long time.... but I'm not feeling the look of her.. I wanted something simple but iconic and cool..
I mean terry bogard runs around in a pair of converse and a beat up denim jacket n jeans.. and still gets recognition.. how cool is that?
I just wanna know why catz constantly bring up the Snk inspired Cap dudes but never wanna talk about the guys from Snk who were inspired by Cap characters. Why can't we ever talk about SF on this forum witout talkin about why peeps think Kof is better? It's kinda irritatin' to me and it's not called for at all and it make the culprits seem like jealous KOF fanabois, seriously. Am I the only guy who notices that every time somthin' new happens in SFIV it always leads back to how SNK did a better job.
Stop comparin' SF to every FG on the planet and talk about SF or KOF. They are far from the rivalries they use to be.
Originally posted by JustFrameI don't think parryin' made SF better as a series, I just think it made the SFIII games better in its own way, strategically speaking. I think there is alot of strategy added to the games because of the ability to parry. Sure everyone could do it but every player wasn't on the same skill level, some are better than others.
I don't mind people liking Parry as an opinion that's fine however what I do mind is when people say (Not saying you btw) that it made Street Fighter better on a "strategical" level as fact, which is absolutely incorrect.
It's gonna hurt me to say this but I think peeps took SFIII too serious, simply cuz of the name. I could understand your problems cuz from what it sounds like, you pretty good worthy of entering tourneys. But I don't think the developers behind SFIII meant for that game to be played as serious as it does. I think it was meant to be a fun 2d fighter like MVC2. Games like SFII and IV, I think, are the games meant to be at EVO and the likes.
Do you guys remember that video I posted a while ago about doing a Focus Attack + cancel + ultra so fast you don't even see the animation?
Some dude with mad skills just pulled it against none other than Daigo.
Originally posted by Overdose
I just wanna know why catz constantly bring up the Snk inspired Cap dudes but never wanna talk about the guys from Snk who were inspired by Cap characters. Why can't we ever talk about SF on this forum witout talkin about why peeps think Kof is better? It's kinda irritatin' to me and it's not called for at all and it make the culprits seem like jealous KOF fanabois, seriously. Am I the only guy who notices that every time somthin' new happens in SFIV it always leads back to how SNK did a better job.Stop comparin' SF to every FG on the planet and talk about SF or KOF. They are far from the rivalries they use to be.
I'd like to know why you think I'm talking about anything other than the art..
fighting games are fighting games.. its just like people comparing different movies of the same genre to one another
as for the "snk guys who were inspired from capcom".. I'd like to know who
and who the hell is saying KoF is better?... I'm purely talking company-wise, and art-wise
OH NOES I"M A JEALOUS KOF FANBOI because I dislike a new SFIV character's friggin outfit..(or were you referring to my dislike of "Select your ultra", which JustFrame (who is incredibly well-versed in the ways of fighters) promptly agreed with) OH SNAP.. gimme a break dude... its merely that 'you' cant stand hearing about KOF or SNK.. because I certainly have no issues with capcom or their respective franchises...
All I want is for capcom to stay true to their own art and not rely on "SNK Ladies" type characters to sell their new shit is all..
capcom CAN do 'simple, yet kick-ass'.. i.e. the entire original world warriors and bosses, cammy and T.hawk (I dont care for Deejay) and including characters from their final fight series into the alpha arc, dudley is amazing.. necro.., and I'm sure there are many others along these lines that arent coming to mind atm
they just were too lazy this time around.. I mean cmon.. El-Fuerte?.. wtf.. I'd have preferred someone just as lame like R.Mika 😘
as for KOF vs SF.. kof is a more agressive game.. and sf is more tactical (if i were to simplify things so drastically).. therefor they cater to two very different crowds.. so I dont know how you're claiming anyone is trying to say that they are rivals
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Anyways, I've been hearing about a Multi Focus Attack (basically adding the ability to absorb 2 hits-ish or somewhere around there).. anyone know anything about it?
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Do you guys remember that video I posted a while ago about doing a Focus Attack + cancel + ultra so fast you don't even see the animation?Some dude with mad skills just pulled it against none other than Daigo.
Insane.
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN😂 Don't worry dude, I'm not talkin' about you, I was only readin' JustFrame's posts and he was sayin' somthin' bout how C.Viper isn't a rip off of Venessa. Which is somthin' many peeps around the net spew. Did you say that too? This sh1t is much bigger than you and me, it's almost er VG forum, yo. It's SF VS KOF, TEKKEN, GG and the other sh1t all the time. I'm not sayin' you can't do what you do, I just think it's a great time for FGs and we shouldn't be arguin' about who is better all the time and it's more than just comparin' apples to apples, fans from both sides ALWAYS turn things into a competition which leads to constant bickering. Just enjoy the games. So there is no need to come at me all crazy cuz I was just makin' a general statement about the bull sh1t that goes around wit these games.
I'd like to know why you think I'm talking about anything other than the art..fighting games are fighting games.. its just like people comparing different movies of the same genre to one another
as for the "snk guys who were inspired from capcom".. I'd like to know who
and who the hell is saying KoF is better?... I'm purely talking company-wise, and art-wise
OH NOES I"M A JEALOUS KOF FANBOI because I dislike a new SFIV character's friggin outfit..(or were you referring to my dislike of "Select your ultra", which JustFrame (who is incredibly well-versed in the ways of fighters) promptly agreed with) OH SNAP.. gimme a break dude... its merely that 'you' cant stand hearing about KOF or SNK.. because I certainly have no issues with capcom or their respective franchises...
All I want is for capcom to stay true to their own art and not rely on "SNK Ladies" type characters to sell their new shit is all..
capcom CAN do 'simple, yet kick-ass'.. i.e. the entire original world warriors and bosses, cammy and T.hawk (I dont care for Deejay) and including characters from their final fight series into the alpha arc, dudley is amazing.. necro.., and I'm sure there are many others along these lines that arent coming to mind atm
they just were too lazy this time around.. I mean cmon.. El-Fuerte?.. wtf.. I'd have preferred someone just as lame like R.Mika 😘
as for KOF vs SF.. kof is a more agressive game.. and sf is more tactical (if i were to simplify things so drastically).. therefor they cater to two very different crowds.. so I dont know how you're claiming anyone is trying to say that they are rivals
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Anyways, I've been hearing about a Multi Focus Attack (basically adding the ability to absorb 2 hits-ish or somewhere around there).. anyone know anything about it?
Now that I look back I could see how you would take offense to what I said and my bad, but I'm just talkin', you don't have to pay me any mind at all. I wont lie and say that I'm not more of a fan of SF than KOF which is why it annoys me when I hear shit like, Judi is the opposite of Kim, thus she's a rip, or that C.Viper is a woman in a suit wit red hair, she's rip too, when people will dog the shit outta SFIV but in the next breath commend KOF XII and NEVER point out any of it's flaws and call peeps fanboiz cuz they actually like SFIV.
I did my fare share of complainin about SFIV and KOFXII, but when credit is due, it's due. I'm not gonna focus completely on the flaws of the game like others. So once again, my bad and if you don't believe that I wasn't reffering to you, I can show you links to other sites showing exactly with what JustFrame was talkin about
Originally posted by Zack FairI could never be that good wit Balrog.
Do you guys remember that video I posted a while ago about doing a Focus Attack + cancel + ultra so fast you don't even see the animation?Some dude with mad skills just pulled it against none other than Daigo.
Practice makes perfect!
or so they say. I know for a fact I might never do that since I totally suck with charge characters( Sorry Chun...I fkn tried )
Daigo beat Wong again in the grandfinals of seasonbeating4. Wong pulled off quite a show with Fei Long, even managed a perfect against him, but as usual you can't really keep a pattern when you go up against Daigo in a best of 5 or 10 series. Sanford managed to rape Daigo with Cammy. Eventhough I don't want to take any credit from him, he is lucky he got only 2 shots at Daigo. Should they have played a series of 5/10 I am confident Daigo would have adapted and properly spank his ass like he did Justin.
Anyways its always fun and good to watch pros go at it. Learning things in the process to boot.
I got the game for pc yesterday. Personally think it's better than the 360 version. Definetely looks better. Visually there's more detail/depth and it's faster (in a good way). It's SF 4.2.
I maxed out everything and it looks unbelievable. The lighting, soft shadows and dust are just phenomenal. They even had some sfII music thrown in.
I use my xbox360 controllers and the game's way tighter and more responsive on my pc than on the console.
overall comparison (gameplay, control, graphics)
Xbox360 - 8/10
PC - 10/10
Originally posted by Zack FairI just don't get how they can do the charge moves so fast. It's like when the CPU used Guile's Flash Kick in SFII. They would kill the sh1t outta me and the whole time I'm thinkin' "doesn't that damn move take 2 secs to charge?" These guys seem to be doin' the moves when ever they want to.
Practice makes perfect!or so they say. I know for a fact I might never do that since I totally suck with charge characters( Sorry Chun...I fkn tried )
Daigo beat Wong again in the grandfinals of seasonbeating4. Wong pulled off quite a show with Fei Long, even managed a perfect against him, but as usual you can't really keep a pattern when you go up against Daigo in a best of 5 or 10 series. Sanford managed to rape Daigo with Cammy. Eventhough I don't want to take any credit from him, he is lucky he got only 2 shots at Daigo. Should they have played a series of 5/10 I am confident Daigo would have adapted and properly spank his ass like he did Justin.
Anyways its always fun and good to watch pros go at it. Learning things in the process to boot.