Superman vs Goku (Official Thread)

Originally posted by Creshosk
The point is the amount of energy harnessed was insufficient to do more than leave a crater. Even with the claim that there was enough to destroy not just one (Cell) but two (Gohan) solar systems.

So either cell was telling the truth and there was enough to destroy two (Cell and gohan) solar systems and there;s a big hole in the reasoning of why not even one was destroyed, or Cell was bluffing to try and intimidate the Z fighters (which is the more likely case as the evidence supports this.)

Oh no next you'll be saying Buu destroyed a galaxy

Originally posted by Kento
Oh no next you'll be saying Buu destroyed a galaxy

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Oh how could I have put Buu down to such a low level as galaxy buster when he destroyed the universe and can beat all of DC and Marvel with only a portion of his power and since Gokou is his equal Superman looses without even being able to form a single thought or even realize who he is fighting.

Originally posted by Kento
Oh how could I have put Buu down to such a low level as galaxy buster when he destroyed the universe and can beat all of DC and Marvel with only a portion of his power and since Gokou is his equal Superman looses without even being able to form a single thought or even realize who he is fighting.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
No, I mean you are applying real world science to a fictional universe where it doesn't apply.

Obviously it does, since it has normal matter and energy, stars, planets, etc. Those things wouldn't be able to exist if physics didn't apply.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Obviously it does, since it has normal matter and energy, stars, planets, etc. Those things wouldn't be able to exist if physics didn't apply.

Does anyone who read DBZ and reads Superman even think Goku has a chance?

Yea I don't think so. Course if you go by actual personalities Gokou would have a better chance since Superman would go down to his level to fight him so Gokou would be hitting him with blasts and everything.

Unless, Supes was pissed off, I can see the fight going like this(note, this is not using the same conditions I set earlier)

Supes and Goku start to fight, goku lands more blows while Superman isn't really effected, Supes isn't going all out, he just tries to talk Goku down. Eventually forcing Goku to go Super Saiyan 3, Goku charges up his strongest Kamehameha, fires it at Supes. Supes decides to take it head on to teach Goku a lesson, even though he could easily avoid or deflect it. Goku sees his attack did little to no damage to Supes(his cape is tattered). Upon seeing Goku's full power, Supes decides to take him out fast, so he speedblitzes Goku into submission.

It would really depend on why they were fighting. If it's like Marvel vs DC and they have to fight to save their own universe he puts Gokou down hard and fast but trying not to kill him in the process so he takes a while seeing how much damage Gokou can take and how much it will take to knock him out because he wants his universe to be saved but not to kill him like against Hulk sort of. If they are just put into a place to fight Superman will take all Gokou has while Gokou tries to get him to fight seriously until Superman finds a way for them to get out.

Either way, Goku goes down pretty hard

I wonder how Gokou would do against Superboy though. Unless he got as strong and fast as Superman before his death. Never read Teen Titans just his solo series up until he lost his powers and Young Justice.

I'd say he'd be a better match for Goku, Tactile Telekinesis is a killer power

Yea. Gokou would be charging up a Kamehameha when suddenly the ground under him explodes. And Gokou would be able to hurt him with his blasts so Superboy would have to worry about being hit by one.

Originally posted by Sarutobi700
Yo mods close this thread. Its a spite thread. if someonesays Goku will win and provides proof they will still be called a troll

Or labeled, by being called Phenom.

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Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Ki control dude. 😎......God I just realized how much I sound like WHITEBEARD/Phenom right now...

Originally posted by Creshosk
Yes I'm sure that Cell would have been trying very hard not to blow up the planet that he claimed he tried to blow up earlier... 🙄

Originally posted by Kento
Yea that fact that a panel after he lands Piccolo shows up and it never shows him napping. Also the fact that Gotenks is nothing but a bragger who likes to make himself stronger than he is. Even if it was a few dozen times that he did go around it was still in 29 minutes when he could have done a few dozen times in seconds if he was faster than light. Also a panel before he lands it doesn't even show a dozen lines going around the Earth. I was wrong about it showing nine since it shows ten but still that's not a dozen. Also SSJ3 Gotenks >> SSJ3 Gokou so it doesn't matter how much Gotenks powers up it just matters how much stronger SSJ3 Gokou is that SSJ Gotenks and faster but that's never mentioned so the fastest we have is SSJ Gotenks feat to go by. Except they're also hurt by blasts that only make small craters in the ground and from punches don't even generate shockwaves from them. There is no proof there punches equal to their strongest blasts at all.

The Gotenks feat doesn't make them faster than light. He said a few dozen times and even if that was true it still took 29 minutes. That is very far from light speed. As for Krillen vs Roshi..something like that happened just once not multiple times.

Superman has fought around the Earth a fast speeds, and fought to the sun and back. Yea it's hard to doubt he can actually fight faster than light.

Not once has there ever been shown to destroy solar systems and they still get hurt from blasts that just make small craters even when Gokou is in his ssj3 form. Superman has taken blasts the size of what they are hurt by from his weaknesses and been fine enough to keep going.

Instant Transmission is just travel it's not going to help him fight against a guy who can hear his heartbeat and react faster than he has been shown to or anybody else has been shown to. Destructo Disk has yet to prove it can be stopped in the manga but nothing it has cut compares to what Superman has taken and I highly doubt that it's going to bypass his bio-aura. Kamehameha isn't going to have much effect if he isn't going to have the time to even charge up a strong enough blast before he get his head ripped off.

Nowhere does it say Superman can fight faster than light, it's never been proven. I even remember reading that Superman can't go beyond light speed within a planet's atmosphere, now I know the popular Superman supporters answer to this one, he will cause atmospheric chaos, which we all know it hasn't been proven either. Sonic booms can't cause atmospheric chaos even real scientists say that. They say only extreme temperatures can and we have never seen Superman control the weather so there goes that claim of he will cause atmospheric chaos. Never seen Superman fight around the Earth at fast speeds, now you're going to talk about that scan where it shows him in arizona and china and all those places. It doesn't prove anything where does it show the time frame making speculations about just because it was all on one page doesn't prove any time frame, it would be like me taking pictures of myself being at all these different places and putting them on one page does that prove to everyone that I'm really fast because I was in all those places just because I listed them and put them on one page?

Superman has never taken blasts any where near that of what Goku can dish out. Sun eater, he wasn't even near it, megadon war head there was no explosion, he absorb the energy. It said if it exploded it would take half the galaxy did anyone see an explosion in that scan?

Superman died from punches nowhere near the power of Goku's so explain that.

IT is very effective in battles, we've seen him use it against Cell and Buu and it worked both times causing them tremendous damages. If it wasn't for their regeneration abilities they would of been screwed. Superman can hear Dooms Day's heart beat so explain why he still got own, it proves his reaction time is not that great. Remember Dooms Day is slower than him.