Superman vs Goku (Official Thread)

Originally posted by carver9
Creshok, you are hilarious and you are making this very interesting. I know that you be posting insults but its hilarious. Back on topic.

Theres a lot of goku feats that can be caculated as higher, like him kicking frieza through two mountains and that entire area was shaking, thats not a feat that a 40 tonner can do (well he was much weaker then the time that he was on the ki planet so to you he would have been 5 tons but he knocked someone through mountains). Goku was stronger then captain ginyu but captain ginyu was throwing people out of orbit, again goku was black hair when he fought captain ginyu and he matched his strength. So since captain ginyu is 5 tons I guess spiderman can throw people out of orbit also. Goku kicked vegita through a mountain, can spiderman punch wolverine through a mountain and again this was a much weaker goku.

Goku as a kid>superman as a kid, so whats your point. Are you referring to goku when he 1st learned how to use the wave, not a bad showing. If he destroyed a door that would have still been impressive.

Superman took the shockwave of a solar system blast, still a good feat though.

When have goku been killed by a planet destroying blast. I would love to see this because the cell blast lit up the entire solar system.

You didnt use any low showings, I know that you can do better then that.

I know I have to get more games then one, Im referring to the 1 couple of games Im going to get while buying the system. You all gave me some good advise though. Thanks.

Originally posted by Creshosk
That's cause he doesn't play around like that. AFter his burst of speed he's accomplihed what he was trying to do.

It was posted earlier in this thread.

Nope I'm not. But western comics and eastern comics tend to display speed differently. where as we might get multiple shots of a character in a single panel to show extreme speed in a western book in an eastern one they tend to look blurry to allow for the after image or clone techniques.

Depends on the explosion.

Depends on the strength of the atomic explosion. Jubilee's powers were the detonation of matter on a sub-stomic level. So each paf we saw from her was an atomic explosion.

Depends on the strength. Higher payload yeild higher speed needed. as there is more energy trying to escape and you'll need to cover a larger distance.

Of course Flash evacuated an entire city just after a nuke went off, but before it hit the city. Superman can keep up with the Flash... so I'm guessing that what you're trying to prove in a round about way isn't fully informed anyway.

No. It still takes them days to travel to another country. DBZ characters take 50 minutes to accomplish the same thing. Naruto is cool and all but they wouldn't stand a chance against any Z warriors. Naruto's fights were better animated, and had at least one character I adore. So while DBZ is more powerful than Naruto, I prefer Naruto due to the characterization.

Before I give you the reason to the question I asked, have you seen the shippuudden comics.

Originally posted by Kento
Um...Special Beam Cannon wasn't planet destroying. And Cell exploding was...just planet destroy nothing else. He didn't even harm Snake Way when it blew up King Kai's planet though.

So youre telling me that picollo didnt easily destroy the moon with his special beam cannon. He turned it to dust. We dont know how strong picollo blast was but we do know that he had the ability to destroy the planet.

I would also classify that as an example of PIS

Originally posted by carver9
So youre telling me that picollo didnt easily destroy the moon with his special beam cannon. He turned it to dust. We dont know how strong picollo blast was but we do know that he had the ability to destroy the planet.

Originally posted by carver9
Creshok, you are hilarious and you are making this very interesting. I know that you be posting insults but its hilarious. Back on topic.

Theres a lot of goku feats that can be caculated as higher, like him kicking frieza through two mountains and that entire area was shaking,

Originally posted by carver9
thats not a feat that a 40 tonner can do (well he was much weaker then the time that he was on the ki planet so to you he would have been 5 tons but he knocked someone through mountains).

Originally posted by carver9
Goku was stronger then captain ginyu but captain ginyu was throwing people out of orbit,

Originally posted by carver9
again goku was black hair when he fought captain ginyu and he matched his strength. So since captain ginyu is 5 tons I guess spiderman can throw people out of orbit also.

Originally posted by carver9
Goku kicked vegita through a mountain, can spiderman punch wolverine through a mountain and again this was a much weaker goku.

Originally posted by carver9
Goku as a kid>superman as a kid, so whats your point.

Don't like it? Take it up with Toriyama.

Originally posted by carver9
Are you referring to goku when he 1st learned how to use the wave, not a bad showing.

Originally posted by carver9
If he destroyed a door that would have still been impressive.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman took the shockwave of a solar system blast, still a good feat though.

Originally posted by carver9
When have goku been killed by a planet destroying blast.

Originally posted by carver9
I would love to see this because the cell blast lit up the entire solar system.

Originally posted by carver9
You didnt use any low showings, I know that you can do better then that.

Originally posted by carver9
I know I have to get more games then one, Im referring to the 1 couple of games Im going to get while buying the system. You all gave me some good advise though. Thanks.

Originally posted by carver9
Before I give you the reason to the question I asked, have you seen the shippuudden comics.

Originally posted by carver9
So youre telling me that picollo didnt easily destroy the moon with his special beam cannon. He turned it to dust. We dont know how strong picollo blast was but we do know that he had the ability to destroy the planet.

Superman wins.

Originally posted by Ha-Son
Superman wins.

As easy as that huh?

Originally posted by Ha-Son
As easy as that.

Cool.

Originally posted by Creshosk
As easy as that huh?

Cool.

Originally posted by Creshosk
How hard do you think itsd take to move a creature of freiza's weight that distance? We can fire things that weigh grams through metal after a good distance... I don't think it even takes a ton of force to fire a bullet.

Freiza probably didn't weigh more than 300 pounds. Plus we don't know the hardness of the rocks of that planet. limestone for example has a hardness of about 3-4 that's softer than steel. Where as Granite is probably closer to 6 or 7...

Again, tossing people just means tossing 1 to two hundred pounds. Not knowing the thickness of the planets atmosphere or its density its hard to compare that to earth.

That's assuming namek's atmosphere is the same as EArth's and assuming the gravity is the same as well. And assuming there was no ki involved...

Superman punched lobo out of the atmosphere and through a moon sized spaceship... I hardly see the relevance to you denying what was stated on panel.

Using old low showings against the current showings for your guy? I'm using the most reacent data posted for Goku in the manga... 40 tons.

Don't like it? Take it up with Toriyama.

But intentionally picked because it was much lower than current and paints the wave to be weaker than it actually is... like you're doing.

Not really. Jubilee destroyed an entire mansion without trying. Course she's been stated to be able to take out all of new york if she pushed herself. *shrug*

Yeah, back in '91. Plus absorbing the energy of the megaddon warhead... you know the galaxy destroyer.

Cell.. self destruct... killed goku.

Quit exagerating.

I'm pretty sure I used some old showings to make goku look bad... Its not my point to prove he's at that level. Its my point to illustrate to you what you're doing with theis batman and Deathstroke nonesense.. two characters that have pretty damned impressive jobber auras.

I just hope you enjoy them. I only recommended two of my favorite games. but your tates might differ. If you want there's also the option of getting Sonic 1 sonic 2 and sonic 3 through the virtual console.

Its not frieza weight that is concerned, its what frieza went through. Thats like me taking away from superman punching lobo out of orbit since he only weighs so much. Goku kicked frieza through two mountains and through namaks crust and that entire area was shaking. Thats not even a feat that colossus can pull.

Bulma herself was scared to step foot on the planet namek due to fear of the gravity until she realized that it had the same gravity as earth. If you have the scan please put it up because she comment on it being the same as earth. Again, colossus a 100 tonner had trouble throwing wolverine at a plane in the air (forgot the villian name that he was trying to get wolverine up there to get but wolverine ended up putting his hand in the villians mouth.). Wolverine asked colossus before doing so would he be able to do it and colossus put all of his strength into it but captain ginyu with a flinch of his arm was throwing people out of orbit and punching people out of orbit. Hell, captain ginyu even went burst through nameks crust during the fight and picked up a bolder that weigh more then 10 tons and threw it at goku with ease.

Im not the one disagree with people being tossed out of orbit by superman. I think that he does have the strength to do those things since his stats have him at 100,000 tons plus but I also seen to many times where dragonball have done this with just strength alone and quite easily. Hell frieza and goku was knocking down mountains during there fight and again that is a feat that I cant see colossus doing.

Yeah your using 40 tons which could be a low showing or could be goku also fighting against a ki's planet gravity. I never said that i didnt like it but I got in my head what took place during that instance.

Im not disagree with the feats that you post for goku because you havent posted a low showing towards goku yet.

But again jubilee is use to her powers, that was goku 1st time using the wave and it wasnt the blast that was impressive, master roshi was shocked at how fast he learned a technique that took him almost a century to learn.

Cell blast was never stated as being nothing but planet destroying, cell said that he was going to destroy the planet. Sounds different to me.

Again you havent proven to me that goku is weak. Everything that I told you about superman is cannon which did include batman. That wasnt the only time that batman has laid into superman, just go to batman respect thread, you'll see a lot in there.

I already know for a fact that I will be getting sonic. Thats a 100%.

Originally posted by Creshosk
How do you figure that destroying the mass of the moon is the same as destroying the mass of the Earth? The moon is alot less massive than the Earth is obviously, otherwise the Moon probably would have formed as a planet and disrupted The Earth and Mars...

The point isnt how about the mass, the point is how easily he destroyed the moon. He turned the moon to dust. There wasnt any meteors, etc... It was completely gone. I know that the moon is like 1/4 of the earth but picollo didnt show any signs of having problems destroying the earth.

this really is one of the most one-sided debates i've seen on kmc, it really is. supes wins easily, as we all know.

creshosk, who is your favorite character in brawl? my favorite is link, as i'm a zelda fanboy, but my best character is easily ike. so damn powerful! it sounds like a damn shotgun blast everytime he hits someone.

Originally posted by carver9
The point isnt how about the mass, the point is how easily he destroyed the moon. He turned the moon to dust. There wasnt any meteors, etc... It was completely gone. I know that the moon is like 1/4 of the earth but picollo didnt show any signs of having problems destroying the earth.

Originally posted by emporerpants
this really is one of the most one-sided debates i've seen on kmc, it really is. supes wins easily, as we all know.

creshosk, who is your favorite character in brawl? my favorite is link, as i'm a zelda fanboy, but my best character is easily ike. so damn powerful! it sounds like a damn shotgun blast everytime he hits someone.

My old signature had a bunch of Jigglypuff videos from melee in it.. dunno what happened to it. and too lazy to recreate it.

Originally posted by Creshosk
When the hell did Piccolo destroy the earth?

My bad, I worded it wrong, the point I was trying to make is that picollo during that time had the ability to destroy earth. Master roshi had the power level of a 100 and he destroyed the moon, picollos shouldnt have a problem with the earth. Vegita destroyed a planet with 2 fingers. Frieza destroyed planet vegita with one finger.

yeah, jigglypuff is pretty good. i like ike alot because his power is outstanding, and some of his moves are deceptivly fast. his triple A combo is very quick, and takes priority when people rush in to try and punish you for missed moves. his forward B is good for moving around the stage and makes up for is lack of speed, and his up B is is quick and has great priority. i'm actually headed to a fighting game tourny in iowa this weekend ( a long trip for me, i'm from green bay), and my friend will be running brawl one.

Gah! totally off topic, sorry guys!

Originally posted by emporerpants
this really is one of the most one-sided debates i've seen on kmc, it really is. supes wins easily, as we all know.

creshosk, who is your favorite character in brawl? my favorite is link, as i'm a zelda fanboy, but my best character is easily ike. so damn powerful! it sounds like a damn shotgun blast everytime he hits someone.

Your a guy that I would never debate against, you kind of remind me of xmeat and wolverine8888. 🙁

carver, my suggestion is to get Brawl. It's selling like hot cakes and it's one of the most or possibly THE most popular game on the Wii as of now.

Excuse me for being off topic here folks but it's just that a game like Super Smash Bros. Brawl is a must have if you ask me.