Superman vs Silver surfer · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

Mr. Slippyfist Dead

Originally posted by h1a8
In his bios. And in several scans stating it.

Proof?

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
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Should I just make a sig of this?
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/SilverSurfer_Rune-14.jpg
And I have never seen Marvel explain this... ever. 😐

SS is not moving faster than light in the scan. He's just saying that he can.

I'm pretty sure you have a least seen a scan here explaining it.
If no then I guess you haven't read a lot on SS.

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Proof?

There is plenty of proof.
There is a scan here showing him taking someone on his board. The scan then explains that he has to enter hyperspace (it takes him a second).

Mr. Slippyfist Dead

Originally posted by h1a8
SS is not moving faster than light in the scan. He's just saying that he can.
I'm pretty sure you have a least seen a scan here explaining it.
If no then I guess you haven't read a lot on SS.

hysterical

Wow...

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Anyway...
So, to avoid being hit by Deathurge's arrows, he only goes around in a circle saying he can move faster than light... but he's not doing it there?
That's definitely not reaching in the slightest...

No I haven't.

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I've read almost every comic Surfer has appeared in... I don't remember the scan that you think you saw.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by h1a8
Those scans don't show no ill effect. What is ill effect anyway? Being stunned for a half of a second shows effect. What, you think Hulk must ko SS for it not to have an effect?

Hulk knocked Surfer around(which makes perfect sense since Surfer weighs less than Hulk can lift), but he was in no way hurt. I fail to see where he was "stunned"(as you say) either.

Originally posted by h1a8
Plus these scans provide evidence of SS lack of reflexes. Superman would not only hit SS with planet splitting strikes but is infinitely faster than Hulk.

Supes has been tagged plenty by guys with no super speed to speak of, I also remember him being unable to catch Deathstroke. ALL characters fight below their potential, Supes is no different.

Originally posted by h1a8
I guess that means you are a fanboy since you didn't answer the question (it was a yes or no question). Only a super SS fanboy could think that it's impossible for Superman to ko SS if he hits him continuously in the head.

I did answer, it's just that the answer was IMPLIED rather than outright stated. But since I now understand that I'm debating with someone who lacks the capacity for abstract thought I'll come right out and say it. Yes, I believe that Supes could KO Surfer if he repeatedly hit Surfer in the head. However, I also believe that Surfer would be able to put down Supes via Red Sun, K-nite, or solar energy absorbtiob first. Hell, I also believe that Surfer would put Supes down through regular energy blast before Supes could KO him without HAVING to exploit Supes's weaknesses. You know how you Supes's fans like to say things like "Surfer's been put down by a lot less force than Supes's punches have" well, "Supes has been put down by a lot less than a blast from Surfer(which can create a black hole as a side effect)".

Originally posted by h1a8
In his bios. And in several scans stating it.

Uh huh... I'm going to need to see those but if you give me the issue and page numbers that'll be fine(if you don't have the scans on hand I mean).

Mr. Slippyfist Dead

Originally posted by h1a8
Plus these scans provide evidence of SS lack of reflexes.

Surfer toyed with Hulk the whole issue... basically tried to talk to him. He never tried to dodge, or really do anything.

However... he was hit, so it's irrelevant... ermm

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

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I've read almost every comic Surfer has appeared in... I don't remember the scan that you think you saw.

Annihilation: The Nova Corps Files #1 (Oct. 2006)

Here is the bios too:
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Silver_Surfer
He can navigate space, hyperspace and dimensional barriers, and can fly at near-limitless speeds on his board, entering hyperspace when he exceeds light speed.

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by darthgoober

Uh huh... I'm going to need to see those but if you give me the issue and page numbers that'll be fine(if you don't have the scans on hand I mean).

Annihilation: The Nova Corps Files #1 (Oct. 2006)

Mr. Slippyfist Dead

Originally posted by h1a8
Annihilation: The Nova Corps Files #1 (Oct. 2006)

Ah... bio... unsupported by on panel evidence...

Anyway, I'll go check that out. 🙂

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Wait... are you talking about this:
http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silversurferzq8.jpg

Because it doesn't say it there... in fact... it says he can go warp speed (which has actually happened before...).

Mr. Slippyfist Dead

Originally posted by h1a8
Annihilation: The Nova Corps Files #1 (Oct. 2006)
Here is the bios too:
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Silver_Surfer
He can navigate space, hyperspace and dimensional barriers, and can fly at near-limitless speeds on his board, entering hyperspace when he exceeds light speed.

Heh... Marvel.com. Black Panther is better than Spider-Man is almost every aspect following their information... and Wolverine used to be more powerful than Silver Surfer from that website...

It also says he's almost totally indestructible, and can augment his strength to incalculable levels...
Guess he punches out Superman, while giggling at his blows.

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h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Heh... Marvel.com. Black Panther is better than Spider-Man is almost every aspect following their information... and Wolverine used to be more powerful than Silver Surfer from that website...
It also says he's almost totally indestructible, and can augment his strength to incalculable levels...
Guess he punches out Superman, while giggling at his blows.
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Yeah, if he has time to augment it to that level.

Mr. Slippyfist Dead

Originally posted by h1a8
Yeah, if he has time to augment it to that level.

He's almost totally indestructible though. Can't see how Superman will hurt him.

Mindship Snap out of it.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Heh... Marvel.com. Black Panther is better than Spider-Man is almost every aspect following their information...

Next crossover: Black Panther armbars Superman.

and Wolverine used to be more powerful than Silver Surfer from that website...

Also revealed in that upcoming issue: Logan is from Krypton. Kinda all makes sense now, doesn't it?

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
He's almost totally indestructible though. Can't see how Superman will hurt him.

"almost" is the key here. 99% implies almost. As probably most things in the universe couldn't destroy his body. But Thanos, Galactus, Thor, Sufficiently Enraged Hulk, Superman, and many others are in the less than 1% who can though. Also being koed has nothing to do with being damaged nor destroyed. For example, its possible to ko Wolverine while his body won't sustain any damage.

ultimatethor Senior Member

Originally posted by h1a8
"almost" is the key here. 99% implies almost. As probably most things in the universe couldn't destroy his body. But Thanos, Galactus, Thor, Sufficiently Enraged Hulk, Superman, and many others are in the less than 1% who can though. Also being koed has nothing to do with being damaged nor destroyed. For example, its possible to ko Wolverine while his body won't sustain any damage.

As the scans have shown, an extremely enraged hulk tried valiantly to hurt a surfer who was holdimg back immensely and failed woefully( he did not even stun him). He certainly did not destroy his body. Secondly, as has been said by many others, the times surfer has gotten koed have been mostly from enrgy based attacks far greater than supes pitiful heatvision( just in case you wanted to bring it up). In addition scans have been provided showing ss moving at lightspeed in battle easily debunking your ridiculous theory. It is obvious that you are unwilling to see reason no matter the proof provided so arguing wit you is really pointless

Avlon Godot Brew#107

Originally posted by h1a8
"almost" is the key here. 99% implies almost. As probably most things in the universe couldn't destroy his body. But Thanos, Galactus, Thor, Sufficiently Enraged Hulk, Superman, and many others are in the less than 1% who can though. Also being koed has nothing to do with being damaged nor destroyed. For example, its possible to ko Wolverine while his body won't sustain any damage.

The same has been said of Major force and Superman has melted his skin just fine once he was sufficiently pissed. His bio states that his metallic skin is almost indestructable.

Hulk punching SS is hardly a comparison to Superman punching SS.

SS does travel into hyperspace once he approaches light speed. I've seen it stated before...though I feel no need to run around pulling old scans from my old HD.

Keep fighting the good fight.

Mindship Snap out of it.

Originally posted by Avlon
Hulk punching SS is hardly a comparison to Superman punching SS.

I perused the Hulk Respect Thread. I think it's a fair comparison.

Keep fighting the good fight.

Yeah, encourage 'im.

dvampire xenogears

[QUOTE=10231902]Originally posted by Mindship
[B]I perused the Hulk Respect Thread. I think it's a fair comparison.

No it's not. Hulk's strength feats doesn't compare, and we don't even know how strong he was when he got enraged.

janus77 Banana Genius

Hulk's strength feats include holding together a planet, shaking a continental seaboard, pulling apart matter and anti-matter, breaking devices meant to fight celestials, bashing up The Destroyer, cracking Onslaught's armour ... umm, I think they might just be up there with Superman's feats.

also, Superman's strength +can+ be measured, it goes into the quintillions but it has a definite measure. Hulk's is beyond any measure, even The Leader (uber intelligent scientist) couldn't find a limit to it.

ashroro Member

I got a question, when SS performed the famous "infinity gauntlet miss", was he going faster than light speed? And if he did, did he go into hyperspace?