Originally posted by janus77
Hulk's strength feats include holding together a planet, shaking a continental seaboard, pulling apart matter and anti-matter, breaking devices meant to fight celestials, bashing up The Destroyer, cracking Onslaught's armour ... umm, I think they might just be up there with Superman's feats.also, Superman's strength +can+ be measured, it goes into the quintillions but it has a definite measure. Hulk's is beyond any measure, even The Leader (uber intelligent scientist) couldn't find a limit to it.
What I mean is, Superman is able to unleash how much strength he wants at any time, unlike Hulk who rely's on anger. Those situations Hulk was fighting Surfer, we can't really tell how strong he was. Superman doesn't have that problem, so if he's provoked enough, he won't have any problems using more of his strength, which makes him more threatning than Hulk.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
As the scans have shown, an extremely enraged hulk tried valiantly to hurt a surfer who was holdimg back immensely and failed woefully( he did not even stun him). He certainly did not destroy his body. Secondly, as has been said by many others, the times surfer has gotten koed have been mostly from enrgy based attacks far greater than supes pitiful heatvision( just in case you wanted to bring it up). In addition scans have been provided showing ss moving at lightspeed in battle easily debunking your ridiculous theory. It is obvious that you are unwilling to see reason no matter the proof provided so arguing wit you is really pointless
The scan doesn't prove that SS wasn't stunned for at least a second. Plus Hulk could have been at base levels.
Second, Hulk is always enraged (that's why he turned into Hulk). Why lie and say he was extremely enraged when he wasn't.
And there doesn't exist any scans showing SS moving at lightspeed in battle.
Originally posted by ashroro
I got a question, when SS performed the famous "infinity gauntlet miss", was he going faster than light speed? And if he did, did he go into hyperspace?
He was going faster than light speed at first (traveling in hyperspace).
Then he came out of hyperspace to try to grab the IG.
The reason this is true is because marvel says that is the only way SS can travel faster than light. This forces SS to have come out of hyperspace when he tried to grab the IG.
Originally posted by h1a8
He was going faster than light speed at first (traveling in hyperspace).
Then he came out of hyperspace to try to grab the IG.The reason this is true is because marvel says that is the only way SS can travel faster than light. This forces SS to have come out of hyperspace when he tried to grab the IG.
I don't recall the scan saying he went into hyperspace or showing he did. Do you have any proof to support this based on the scan? Also, why is it just because he can go into hyperspace means he isn't faster than super man. Doen't that show he has FTL to be able to not miss his destination by millions of light years? Also, is there any proof that states it takes him a second to go FTL speeds?
Originally posted by h1a8
He was going faster than light speed at first (traveling in hyperspace).
Then he came out of hyperspace to try to grab the IG.The reason this is true is because marvel says that is the only way SS can travel faster than light. This forces SS to have come out of hyperspace when he tried to grab the IG.
Wrong!!!
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_Vol3-006.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_Vol3-007.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_Vol3-007.jpg
Warp = FTL
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/InfinityGauntlet4p35.jpg
Just plain freggin FTL.. (no going to hysperspace mombojumbo)
Originally posted by RoldzQuoted for truth.
Wrong!!!http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_Vol3-006.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_Vol3-007.jpghttp://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_Vol3-007.jpg
Warp = FTL
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/InfinityGauntlet4p35.jpg
Just plain freggin FTL.. (no going to hysperspace mombojumbo)
Give this argument up, h1a8. You can't win it.
Originally posted by Roldz
Wrong!!!http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_Vol3-006.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_Vol3-007.jpghttp://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_Vol3-007.jpg
Warp = FTL
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/InfinityGauntlet4p35.jpg
Just plain freggin FTL.. (no going to hysperspace mombojumbo)
First of all, what is hyperspace? How does someone is supposed to look when they are traveling in hyperspace? How do you know that SS isn't entering hyperspace when he is traveling FTL? Marvel says he does on panel (like The Nova Corps Files #1 (Oct. 2006)) and they also say in his bios. Lastly warp speed could be easily hyperspace travel (since we don't know what hyperspace travel is). For example, everytime Star Trek warps they disapear (from the outside point of view) in a portal or something. But when we are viewing them traveling from their point of view they just seem to be just traveling plain fast.
So I believe Marvel over speculation. And its not speculation that SS will get blitzed in the first ...th of a second by Superman.
Originally posted by h1a8
First of all, what is hyperspace? How does someone is supposed to look when they are traveling in hyperspace? How do you know that SS isn't entering hyperspace when he is traveling FTL? Marvel says he does on panel (like The Nova Corps Files #1 (Oct. 2006)) and they also say in his bios. Lastly warp speed could be easily hyperspace travel (since we don't know what hyperspace travel is). For example, everytime Star Trek warps they disapear (from the outside point of view) in a portal or something. But when we are viewing them traveling from their point of view they just seem to be just traveling plain fast.So I believe Marvel over speculation. And its not speculation that SS will get blitzed in the first ...th of a second by Superman.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Where has Marvel said that hyperspace is the ONLY way Surfer can travel faster than light? I don't mean a bio saying that he can enter hyperspace upon hitting lightspeed, I mean a statement saying that he HAS to enter hyperspace to surpass lightspeed...
Also why is it in question that Surfer may be able to negate a speed blitz initiated by superman? If he is capable of FTL speeds, why can't he come up with a way to stop a speed blitz? H1a8, why do you think superman will be able to blitz surfer in a second? Do you think that if surfer were fighting to the best of his abilities(using all the power cosmic) he wouldn't be able to see one coming?
Originally posted by RoldzNice ownage.
Wrong!!!http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_Vol3-006.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_Vol3-007.jpghttp://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_Vol3-007.jpg
Warp = FTL
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/InfinityGauntlet4p35.jpg
Just plain freggin FTL.. (no going to hysperspace mombojumbo)
Originally posted by ashroro
Also why is it in question that Surfer may be able to negate a speed blitz initiated by superman? If he is capable of FTL speeds, why can't he come up with a way to stop a speed blitz? H1a8, why do you think superman will be able to blitz surfer in a second? Do you think that if surfer were fighting to the best of his abilities(using all the power cosmic) he wouldn't be able to see one coming?
SS has never proven himself to react to super fast speeds in battle where Superman has. Also flight and navigation speed doesn't equate to battle speed and reflexes. Otherwise you would have seen SS at least once react to a very fast attack after it was initiated.
And the ability to see an attack coming has nothing to do with the speed in which to get out of the way (like ducking). SS hasn't even proven to move his body (like limbs and torso) very fast to avoid attacks after they were launched.
So one must prove two things and not one.
1. SS has the reactions to see Superman coming
2. SS has the speed within that first ...th of a second to get out of the way and continue to get out of the way. (We all know that Superman is faster than SS in the first fraction of a second but after that second SS is faster).
