Originally posted by darthgoober
Where has it been said that Supes's HV moves lightspeed? Cause if we're just going to assume that eyebeams move at lightspeed then there are several instances of Surfer demonstrating lightspeed reflexes just like this...
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7051/silversurfer198901917nw3.jpg
It kills me when people say words like 'several instances' when there is only one or no instances. Anyway, there are instances that point out that the beam is light speed or faster. One instance, Superman fires a beam from Earth to the moon. It reaches it in a matter of a second or two. Another instance, is when SBP blasts a beam through Superman like he is a ghost. The beam appears instantaneous.
Now the scan you posted does appear that SS at his best does have good reflexes. But based off all of SS's other appearances I would have to say that Firelord's beam wasn't light speed and was cosmic fire in nature (it looks like fire). So SS really didn't perform a light speed reflex feat but a darn good one though. The scan seems convincing though. But know that Superman isn't a dumb projectile to be avoided. He constantly and relentlessly attacks here without pause nor time to think or regroup. So my gut feeling and experience of seeing Surfer tells me that SS has to get hit pretty soon after the bell rings by this fury. And when he does then comes the combo to ko.
Good come back though.
Originally posted by h1a8
It kills me when people say words like 'several instances' when there is only one or no instances. Anyway, there are instances that point out that the beam is light speed or faster. One instance, Superman fires a beam from Earth to the moon. It reaches it in a matter of a second or two. Another instance, is when SBP blasts a beam through Superman like he is a ghost. The beam appears instantaneous.Now the scan you posted does appear that SS at his best does have good reflexes. But based off all of SS's other appearances I would have to say that Firelord's beam wasn't light speed and was cosmic fire in nature (it looks like fire). So SS really didn't perform a light speed reflex feat but a darn good one though. The scan seems convincing though. But know that Superman isn't a dumb projectile to be avoided. He constantly and relentlessly attacks without pause and time to think or regroup. So my gut feeling and experience of seeing Surfer tells me that SS has to get hit pretty soon after the bell rings by this fury. And when he does then comes the combo to ko.
Good come back though.
Show me where superman attacks relentlessly without pausing? That would be a nice scan and with this I want to see him moving at super speed.
Originally posted by h1a8
I said he does that here in this forum fight.
So basically you base your votes off of what you THINK that the character can do instead of on panel feats. Well since wolverine has blitzed a lot of people I THINK that he can blitz superman. Since wolverine is my favorite character Im going to say that he can blitz superman.
Originally posted by carver9
scan please.Answer this for me, why didnt superman blitz titan before he got koed twice by him since superman is this blitzing master.
Because it was a comic fight and not a forum one (even though I never seen Titan ko Superman once).
Why does SS get popped by foes who are slow as molasses all the time?
Why did is spider-man able to blitz Firelord (a herald) to ko?
Originally posted by Mindset
Surfer makes a miniature red sun in each one of Superman's cells. 😖hifty:
Good luck with that. It's easier said then done. Supes not just going to be standing there while Surfer tampers with his body, which his body is also not easy to mess with. Surfer uses weaknesses, Supes fights harder. I see that only provoking Supes to hit even harder without holding much back (and Surfer won't last to long), Surfer will just makes things worse for himself. Red solar energy doesn't weaken him anymore anyways.
Originally posted by dvampire
Good luck with that. It's easier said then done. Supes not just going to be standing there while Surfer tampers with his body, which his body is also not easy to mess with. I see that only provoking Supes to hit even harder without holding much back (and Surfer won't last to long), Surfer will just makes things worse for himself. Red solar energy doesn't weaken him anymore anyways.
I was joking, but since when is Supes immune to red sun radiation, did you just make that up?
Originally posted by h1a8
Because it was a comic fight and not a forum one (even though I never seen Titan ko Superman once).
Why does SS get popped by foes who are slow as molasses all the time?
Why did is spider-man able to blitz Firelord (a herald) to ko?
the reason why spiderman blitzed firelord is the reason why spiderman blitzed superman, that is something for you to find out.
If its done only in comics, how are you basing your judgement off of things that superman dont do. Do you give him abilities that he dont have. Well since we're doing it like that, since wolverine has shown more combat speed feats then captain america, I think that wolverine would beat captain america in a manner of at least 5 min.
Originally posted by dvampire
Good luck with that. It's easier said then done. Supes not just going to be standing there while Surfer tampers with his body, which his body is also not easy to mess with. Surfer uses weaknesses, Supes fights harder. I see that only provoking Supes to hit even harder without holding much back (and Surfer won't last to long), Surfer will just makes things worse for himself. Red solar energy doesn't weaken him anymore anyways.
well im glad that surfer knows how to create shields.
