Superman vs Silver surfer

Originally posted by carver9
The only way I can see this happening is by you proving that superman strength is>T&A and by you saying that your basically saying that superman can outmuscle galactus.

surfer didn't outmuscle t&a either...

with this but I dont think that surfer would need to exploit any weakness in this fight to win it. His power alone would grant him the win. A Supernova blast temporarily knocked superman out and the thing about it is that it was a amp superman and the supernova came from a yellow sun. Im pretty sure surfer possess more power then that since he can basically power up and destroy a planet.

just because the sun looked yellow doesnt mean it was the exact same type of sun earth has...

there is also nothing to suggest superman was amped.

a planet exploding and the force of a supernova, is what knocked him out...

Originally posted by Raoul

just because the sun looked yellow doesnt mean it was the exact same type of sun earth has...

Originally posted by Starscream M
aren't all suns okay as long as they aren't red?

yellow sun is what grants him his power... even if it was the exact same type of sun, he was on a planet a fair distance away...

are people going to claim the supernova itself amped him? seriously?

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
I don't see why Kal could not turn this fight into one that favors his strengths, he is not a mere novice.

Superman can generate planet quaking impacts, did Tenebrous not employ such force against Norrin? Aegis nearly smacked the Silver off of him so to speak, and that was with one slap.

In my honest opinion, Superman has the power do KO even this upgraded Surfer. This of course as I stated earlier is if Norrin Radd does not know Supermans weakness'.

First you have to consider that against tenebrous and Aegis, surfers attacks had absolutely no effect on them. The same cannot be said for superman( By the way, Aimed to kill blasts and punches from tenebrous and aegis>>>anything superman can dish out) as Surfers cosmic blasts will certainly affect him greatly. Surfer also has other methods he can use to win this fight such as enrgy drainage entrapment and BFR to name a few.. Superman on the other hand is one dimensional and must rely on physically knocking SS out to win this. SS howver can nullify supes attacks by turning intangible and using forcefields. Evn without those forcefields SS is probably the most durable top tier( save juggernaut) so koing him at all is no easy feat. The fact is, SS has a greater chance of koing superman using sheer force( blasts) than supes has of koing him. Not only that but SS has ways of even further reducing supes chances of koing him such as forcefields and intangibility.
To finish it all off SS has multiple ways of defeating supes all of which have a greater chance of success than supes's method of winning. Norrin is clearly the winner.

surfer didn't outmuscle t&a either...

That wasnt the point of my post, the point I was making is that the only way I can believe that superman would knock surfer out is if superman can pack more of a whalop then t&a which is something that I disagree with. I agree surfer isnt close to being as strong strength wise then t&a but galactus had his reasons for picking surfer to aid him in battle against them.

just because the sun looked yellow doesnt mean it was the exact same type of sun earth has...

The sun was as yellow as day. That was a yellow sun, that was plain and clear.

there is also nothing to suggest superman was amped.

Him being as close as he was proves that it was a amp and then during the supernova he got hit with more of the rays and still couldnt stay contious from the blast.

a planet exploding and the force of a supernova, is what knocked him out...

True statement, the force of the supernova did knock out a AMPED superman. Still a nice feat though. I couldnt believed that he survived.

Originally posted by carver9
True statement, the force of the supernova did knock out a AMPED superman. Still a nice feat though. I couldnt believed that he survived.

He was on a planet when the sun went supernova. I guess that means that Superman is always amped when he's on a planet that orbits a yellow sun, or you're lying, as usual.

Originally posted by carver9
That wasnt the point of my post, the point I was making is that the only way I can believe that superman would knock surfer out is if superman can pack more of a whalop then t&a which is something that I disagree with. I agree surfer isnt close to being as strong strength wise then t&a but galactus had his reasons for picking surfer to aid him in battle against them.

t&a toyed with surfer, he was galactus' most loyal servant, at no point did galactus wink to surfer and say 'go on, you can take 'em...'

The sun was as yellow as day. That was a yellow sun, that was plain and clear.

so every sun that appears to be yellow is exactly the same and gives off exactly the same kind of radiation, then?

Him being as close as he was proves that it was a amp and then during the supernova he got hit with more of the rays and still couldnt stay contious from the blast.

you do know what a supernova is, right?

christ man, its like you'll use any opportunity to make superman look bad...

i'd give this to surfer 7/10, at least, so that's not what i'm arguing, but god...

Originally posted by Rorschach
He was on a planet when the sun went supernova. I guess that means that Superman is always amped when he's on a planet that orbits a yellow sun, or you're lying, as usual.

He was on a planet that was as close to the sun as you can get. Which planet do you think that superman would be more powerful on, earth or mars? Then that still dont change the fact that he was hit by the rays during the supernova.

Originally posted by Raoul
you do know what a supernova is, right?

He knows that it's an exploding star, but that's probably about it.

Originally posted by carver9
He was on a planet that was as close to the sun as you can get. Which planet do you think that superman would be more powerful on, earth or mars? Then that still dont change the fact that he was hit by the rays during the supernova.

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t&a toyed with surfer, he was galactus' most loyal servant, at no point did galactus wink to surfer and say 'go on, you can take 'em...'

He would have called on more heralds if he didnt think that surfer could have been good enough.

so every sun that appears to be yellow is exactly the same and gives off exactly the same kind of radiation, then?

When superman feel like he cant get power from the sun or something is different about the sun he usually comment on it you know like the time he was pushing the sun out of metropolis.

you do know what a supernova is, right?

Yes thats why I said that was a amazing feat.

christ man, its like you'll use any opportunity to make superman look bad...

I wasnt trying to downplay superman, I brought up surfer being able to mimic the blast and people got offended. My bad if you feel like I was attacking superman but that wasnt my attentions. That was a amazing feat that a lot of people can survive but I just think that surfer can mimic it, hell I know that he can mimic it.

Originally posted by carver9
He was on a planet that was as close to the sun as you can get.

Whether this planet was closer to the Sun that Earth is, is purely speculation.

Originally posted by carver9
Which planet do you think that superman would be more powerful on, earth or mars?

Probably Earth, but that's because we know for a fact that it's closer to the Sun than Mars.

Originally posted by carver9
Then that still dont change the fact that he was hit by the rays during the supernova.

That doesn't negate the amount of destructive force he was hit with with. Do you even know how much energy a Supernova releases?

Originally posted by Raoul
😐

LOL 😆

I guess I said something wrong.

all im going to say is this:

a supernova by its very nature cant empower/amp superman.

and that's all i'm saying.

Originally posted by Raoul
all im going to say is this:

a supernova by its very nature cant empower/amp superman.

and that's all i'm saying.

Deal

Originally posted by Rorschach
That doesn't negate the amount of destructive force he was hit with with. Do you even know how much energy a Supernova releases?

Depends on the type. There's only one that's consistent in the amount of power released (the Type Ia). It gives off 4.2x10^37 Joules of energy or roughly explosive force equal to 10^28 megatons of TNT.

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Originally posted by Rorschach
That doesn't negate the amount of destructive force he was hit with with. Do you even know how much energy a Supernova releases?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
About as much energy as Silver Surfer discharged to create a black hole in Annihilation? 😖hifty:

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Originally posted by OneDumbG0
About as much energy as Silver Surfer discharged to create a black hole in Annihilation? 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Depends on the type. There's only one that's consistent in the amount of power released (the Type Ia). It gives off 4.2x10^37 Joules of energy or roughly explosive force equal to 10^28 megatons of TNT.

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