Superman vs Silver surfer

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Originally posted by Avlon
True, but SS had enough time to say a pretty long sentence (say it aloud with grammatical pauses) and then went to ambush Thanos, only to be knocked off his board and with a few casual punches. Thanos is far slower than Supes.

Originally posted by Avlon
Probably not. I know he hit him though and was able to knock him off his board.

EDIT: Ah. Ignore. That's certainly within your right. I can respect that. Peace.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
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Thanos has had perrenial success against speedsters. Starfox, Fallen One, Surfer, Ganymede, etc. I thought Thanos' ability to deal with speedsters was well established here in KMC?
... while distracted. I can show you plenty of times Superman's been clonked when he's distracted too.

EDIT: Ah. Ignore. That's certainly within your right. I can respect that. Peace.

Fast characters get hit by slower char all the time again avlon examples are both bad since those char hardly have trouble with speedsters as you have mentioned above.

I can bring 100’s example of supes/flash or many other top speedsters getting hit by normal thugs villain that are no where close to those speed wise.

It's stupid trying to say SS is slow because he gets hit by “Slower” char. It has already proven many time SS has nano , mico sec reaction before.

Also people forgot that it's a comic book. Character who normally have done FTL or fast battle speed get tagged by street level villains all the time. Just reading some Superman/Flash comic should be evident.

So should we assume that Superman/Flash will get hit by Anyone since it does happen ?

Originally posted by Badabing
Either reply to his posts or ignore. Don't bash or flame. Thank you.

Originally posted by kgkg
It should not mater whether Thanos hits surfer or not.

Fast characters get hit by slower char all the time again avlon examples are both bad since those char hardly have trouble with speedsters as you have mentioned above.

I can bring 100’s example of supes/flash or many other top speedsters getting hit by normal thugs villain that are no where close to those speed wise.

It's stupid trying to say SS is slow because he gets hit by “Slower” char. It has already proven many time SS has nano , mico sec reaction before.

Also people forgot that it's a comic book. Character who normally have done FTL or fast battle speed get tagged by street level villains all the time. Just reading some Superman/Flash comic should be evident.

So should we assume that Superman/Flash will get hit by Anyone since it does happen ?

Isn't the rule 'The characters are fighting at the best of their abilities unless stated
otherwise' the resolution for what you're saying?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
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Thanos has had perrenial success against speedsters. Starfox, Fallen One, Surfer, Ganymede, etc. I thought Thanos' ability to deal with speedsters was well established here in KMC?
... while distracted. I can show you plenty of times Superman's been clonked when he's distracted too.

EDIT: Ah. Ignore. That's certainly within your right. I can respect that. Peace.

But eh most would agree that the Surfer stomps Superman anyways save a few. So it isnt like this was really that difficult imo.

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Originally posted by Unnatural-POWER
Isn't the rule 'The characters are fighting at the best of their abilities unless stated
otherwise' the resolution for what you're saying?

Originally posted by kgkg
Exactly but people like bring example of slow char hitting fast char as a proff of SS being slow which is silly really

Originally posted by quanchi112
Surfer isnt slow by any means. Imo posters try to make the Surfer appear slow so they can give Superman in this case a chance against the Surfer when imo he has none. Unless its just hand to hand.

I haven't read anyone insinuating the Surfer is slow, by any means....

Originally posted by kgkg
Exactly but people like bring example of slow char hitting fast char as a proff of SS being slow which is silly really

Originally posted by Unnatural-POWER
I haven't read anyone insinuating the Surfer is slow, by any means....

Originally posted by quanchi112
You pwned every single point of the other poster's argument imo. Every single point you shredded. Nicely done.

But eh most would agree that the Surfer stomps Superman anyways save a few. So it isnt like this was really that difficult imo.

😛

Oh Quan. Never waste an opportunity for a potshot do you? Those points are all easily addressed and even parried but what is the point if you are the type of audience I'm getting?

Originally posted by kgkg
Exactly but people like bring example of slow char hitting fast char as a proff of SS being slow which is silly really

You are about as pointless as this gif:

One can almost mistake you and Quan for socks of each other.

You can simply show superspeed fighting. See, for all of Surfer, Superman, and Flashes speed feats, Superman and Flash have plenty of speed feats DOING things outside of battle that aren't travelling and IN ACTUAL battle and on foot without a device aiding them.

Superman is simply faster and stronger than SS in battle, and Surfers points have been addressed and answered back with speculation.

Back to SC4. 🙂

Originally posted by Avlon
Oh Quan. Never waste an opportunity for a potshot do you? Those points are all easily addressed and even parried but what is the point if you are the type of audience I'm getting?

You are about as pointless as this gif:

One can almost mistake you and Quan for socks of each other.

You can simply show superspeed fighting. See, for all of Surfer, Superman, and Flashes speed feats, Superman and Flash have plenty of speed feats DOING things outside of battle that aren't travelling and IN ACTUAL battle and on foot without a device aiding them.

Superman is simply faster and stronger than SS in battle, and Surfers points have been addressed and answered back with speculation.

Back to SC4. 🙂

Originally posted by Avlon
Oh Quan. Never waste an opportunity for a potshot do you? Those points are all easily addressed and even parried but what is the point if you are the type of audience I'm getting?

You are about as pointless as this gif:

One can almost mistake you and Quan for socks of each other.

You can simply show superspeed fighting. See, for all of Surfer, Superman, and Flashes speed feats, Superman and Flash have plenty of speed feats DOING things outside of battle that aren't travelling and IN ACTUAL battle and on foot without a device aiding them.

Superman is simply faster and stronger than SS in battle, and Surfers points have been addressed and answered back with speculation.

Back to SC4. 🙂

There were Surfer combta feats utilizing his speed but again whatever. Surfer can exploit Superman's weaknesses. That sums it up imo.

Originally posted by Unnatural-POWER
I haven't read anyone insinuating the Surfer is slow, by any means....

I don't think anyone has said SS is slow at all. He's an extremely fast traveler. It's his battle/fight speed and reflexes that have a lot more negatives than positives since he either doesn't have it or utilize it.

Supes has low points? He sure does. Guess what, so does Surfer.
If people want to play the Hi/Low game, that's fine. Supes can compete nicely in both fields.

I've said for quite a while that they have ways to beat each other. Any sensible fan can see that.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I agreed with onedumbgo's points is all. He addressed your points but you failed to address his. Oh well. No biggie.

[QUOTE=10880173]Originally posted by Avlon
[B][b]I'm going to take his advice and simply put you on ignore instead.

Guess you failed to read that post. Debating involves such things.

Originally posted by quanchi112
There were Surfer combta feats utilizing his speed but again whatever. Surfer can exploit Superman's weaknesses. That sums it up imo.

All already addressed. Go back and read.

Originally posted by kgkg
thats cute 😉

🙂

Originally posted by Avlon
Guess you failed to read that post. Debating involves such things.

All already addressed. Go back and read.

I disagree with you at every turn but its ok as I knew where you stood before this thread got bumped.

Originally posted by Avlon
I don't think anyone has said SS is slow at all. He's an extremely fast traveler. It's his battle/fight speed and reflexes that have a lot more negatives than positives since he either doesn't have it or utilize it.

Supes has low points? He sure does. Guess what, so does Surfer.
If people want to play the Hi/Low game, that's fine. Supes can compete nicely in both fields.

I've said for quite a while that they have ways to beat each other. Any [b]sensible fan can see that. [/B]

And guys take it with easy with member bashing 🙂

^ I agree. Screw the bashing. Let's go with pure arguments. Fact: Silver Surfer has bonified nanosecond reflexes and feats. Other fact: Superman does not have any bonified nanosecond reflexes or feats.

Case closed.

Surfer may not utilize his combat speed often, but his FTL reflexes more than compensate for Superman's clearly below FTL combat speeds. Nuff said.

surfer takes it still

Originally posted by Avlon
Ruin was having the same effect with his anti kryptonian weaponry. It was pretty worthless once Superman got outside.

Major Force tried something similar outside and paid dearly for it.

Didn't I move a planet UNDER A RED SUN?
While fighting an army under a red sun he can still pack a wallop.

Here is Supes fighting Zod under a red sun *with Zod being POWERED by the RED SUN* and Supes doing ok. As soon as the sun turned yellow again SUPERMAN INSTANTLY had his powers.

The presence of radiation within Supes body must not have been that much as it was slowly draining his powers slowly.. The proximity between that planet and sun must have been similar to Supes adopted home therefore his exposure to the radiation is far lesser but if he had had stayed longer he would have definitely lost all his powers as the rad would be building higher and higher to the point of losing all of it, also take note of the natives on that planet, they are far too healthy.. Unlike say a blast from Amazo (1) , the full concentration of the radiation is unto Supes, again a much higher doze than that Zod feat.. Then again this is just my take on that showing (educated speculation 😉 ).. (Not taking anything of that feat, its still prettty good)...

(1) http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll95/Roldzzzz/scan0004-1.jpg

To touch upon that, Amazo had the combination of Supermans own speed and reactions, amped with Flash, AND Firestorm. Surfer on his own wouldn't be able to match the type of battle speed that Amazo had along with the knowledge to make a red sunlight "coctail" indoors in that specific situation.

(2) http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll95/Roldzzzz/scan0005-1.jpg

I mean if his accessing Supes/FS/Flash powers at same time, a single blast from Hal wouldn't severely damage him like that... The way i see it his accessing those powers one at a time on succesion..

It was a megadoze of red sol not a mixture of it. Flash was the one who said a "cocktail", Supes confirmed it by saying a megadozed or red sol..

Even if it was a cocktail Surfer shouldn't have a problem mixing em spectrum energies with red sol his mix diff. energies before at one go..

Ill counter the rest later got visitors.. 😉