Originally posted by fangirl101
The emblem can be part of the theme that he keeps a part of who he's copied in his costume. Kinda like the post zero hour composite man did. Amazo uses any combination of powers at once. or didn't you notice that vixen was draining all of the leagues powers out of him simultaneously. why? becuz he'd assessed that she was the biggest threat to him. so he'd started to use all of thier powers at one time.
Where did you get he was using all of the leagues powers on Vixen at once? Even if he was only using one persons power she could absorb all the powers he has, since they are still in him.
Originally posted by Mindset
Where did you get he was using all of the leagues powers on Vixen at once? Even if he was only using one persons power she could absorb all the powers he has, since they are still in him.
He says in his assessment of her that he must kill her. So why would he pull his punches? Amazo used the leauges powers in combination before. He chooses in what combination to fit the person he's taking out. he did it before when he took out hal jordan with batman's skill and flashes speed.
Originally posted by fangirl101
He says in his assessment of her that he must kill her. So why would he pull his punches? Amazo used the leauges powers in combination before. He chooses in what combination to fit the person he's taking out. he did it before when he took out hal jordan with batman's skill and flashes speed.
Ok, and yet you have no proof that he used all the leagues powers at the same time against Vixen besides that fact that she was absorbing all his powers, even though he wouldn't have to be using them all in unison for her to do that.
Gotcha.
Originally posted by Mindset
Ok, and yet you have no proof that he used all the leagues powers at the same time against Vixen besides that fact that she was absorbing all his powers, even though he wouldn't have to be using them all in unison for her to do that.Gotcha.
logic would dictate that he would. He knows how to beat every leaguer. And since she beat him using various leaguers powers, he would know that he'd have to outright out power her.
Originally posted by Mindset
The only indication that he was using all his powers at once is your opinion, sorry.
^ Multiversal? I was under the impression that he was one of the Fire Elementals sprung from Earth's spirit, Maya. Hell, Thor was borne fro Earth's spirit mother Gaea and he's nto multiversal by any means. Isn't he still limited to what he personally understands with respect to physics and chemistry when he manipulates matter? Also, isn't there some limitation to his abilities with respect to organic matter?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Multiversal? I was under the impression that he was one of the Fire Elementals sprung from Earth's spirit, Maya. Hell, Thor was borne fro Earth's spirit mother Gaea and he's nto multiversal by any means. Isn't he still limited to what he personally understands with respect to physics and chemistry when he manipulates matter? Also, isn't there some limitation to his abilities with respect to organic matter?
Originally posted by Philosophía
I'm still laughing at SS's 'impressive' combat speed feats. 😂
Same here. If it takes THAT much explaining for over 30 years of feats, somethings wrong.
Superman's been rebooted twice and still have a solid speed feat base to use. Surfer doesn't have FTL reactions (far from it) and MOST people haven't claimed Superman is going to be fighting faster than light. Although, as much as things are being stretched, it could definitely be argued that there was FTL fighting in Sacrifice...which would also mean Wonder Woman can fight at those speeds.
The only PIS in the BP incident was the armbar holding Surfer. It simply showcased how sad Surfers reactions are in battle.
Originally posted by Avlon
This?
Originally posted by Avlon
Same here. If it takes THAT much explaining for over 30 years of feats, somethings wrong.Superman's been rebooted twice and still have a solid speed feat base to use. Surfer doesn't have FTL reactions (far from it) and MOST people haven't claimed Superman is going to be fighting faster than light. Although, as much as things are being stretched, it could definitely be argued that there was FTL fighting in Sacrifice...which would also mean Wonder Woman can fight at those speeds.
The only PIS in the BP incident was the armbar holding Surfer. It simply showcased how sad Surfers reactions are in battle.
Originally posted by Ambient
Ive covered the Ruin feat in my previous post.. Repeating it is just a bore ..The presence of radiation within Supes body must not have been that much as it was slowly draining his powers slowly.. The proximity between that planet and sun must have been similar to Supes adopted home therefore his exposure to the radiation is far lesser but if he had had stayed longer he would have definitely lost all his powers as the rad would be building higher and higher to the point of losing all of it, also take note of the natives on that planet, they are far too healthy.. Unlike say a blast from Amazo (1) , the full concentration of the radiation is unto Supes, again a much higher doze than that Zod feat.. Then again this is just my take on that showing (educated speculation ).. (Not taking anything of that feat, its still prettty good)...
Can't see the scan. An easier educated guess is that writers write characters up and down powerwise to frustrate us debaters trying to make sense of it all. 🙂
Either way, Uber Amazo vs tons of Supes overcoming red sun feats.
Originally posted by Ambient
I dont know about that, take this scan (2) ..(2) http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/.../scan0005-1.jpg
I mean if his accessing Supes/FS/Flash powers at same time, a single blast from Hal wouldn't severely damage him like that... The way i see it his accessing those powers one at a time on succesion..
It was a megadoze of red sol not a mixture of it. Flash was the one who said a "cocktail", Supes confirmed it by saying a megadozed or red sol..
Even if it was a cocktail Surfer shouldn't have a problem mixing em spectrum energies with red sol his mix diff. energies before at one go..
Agreed and Surfer can extremely exploit those weakness.. 😄
Many have tried and failed. Surfer's lack of speed, and non-showings in the areas of creating such a thing don't help him either.
Originally posted by Ambient
I thought Supes powers comes from his unique krytonian make-up powered by a select star.. Not Gladiator like.. lolThe GL ring i can see with the mental issue but his krytonian powers was more like a choice between wanting to use them or not course thats after his soak up enough juice to be a Superman..
I found it strange too but that is what happened in the up up and away storyline. Supes powers do stem a lot from confidence though.
Originally posted by Ambient
Ohh his used CA to gather info about his opponents weakness. Example; against Gladiator, Jack of Hearts, Unilords first form, and if i remember correctly the dark counsel (Watcher) in the Unilord saga, etc.. etc..
Against Glads he said he knew of the a weakness, nothing was said of cosmic awareness giving him the information nor did Surfer do anything to actually prove that he could. It could just as easily have been a bluff.
Originally posted by Ambient
I know Superman can see his opponents weakness via the combination between his exp. and X-ray vision but by far differ than CA which not only it allow's perception outside EM spectrum but also a limited universal awareness and time..
With his various vision abilities and his advanced kryptonian brain and senses, there is more than enough there to do what he needs to do. He doesn't need Cosmic Awareness. He has his link to Kismet, the JLA, Waverider, and Phantom Stranger to let him know when there is a cosmic wrong.
That and that pesky red sky that keeps popping up every couple of years.
Originally posted by Ambient
More of a hyperbole, the shockwave of a force impact of that magnitude would reck havok on the planet but as you can see on panel, there is nothing.. Now don't get me wrong Supes blows would definitely have an effect if its left unchecked but with the manipulation of his weakness he wouldn't be at his peak.. A big disadvantage against a high herald..
Supes has moved a planet under red sunlight, fought a zod that was powered by red sunlight in a red sun, outsped Ruin, and fought a guy with the strength of a planets beings to a stalemate.
And he's still faster than SS who would still have no clue what to do or be fast enough (unlike Amazo who is >Surfer) to be able to do much about it.
Originally posted by Ambient
The BP incident is a laughable matter full of pis/cis..
Armbar? Yes. Surfers reflexes in battle? No. For those saying Superman has been tagged in battle..he sure has... however, Surfer has travel speed feats. Superman has travel, battle, and other various speed feats.
Surfer has little to nothing to counteract that showing in battle.
Originally posted by Ambient
His reflex[B](1) more than able to counter a good burst of speed and ive already explained how he perceived Supes weakness. Agree to disagree 😛 (i quess we just leave it at whoever is reading this..lol)..(1) http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silversurfer198902312rpxg0.jpg[/B]
Not in battle. Surfer doesn't generally fight guys with Superman's combination of powers.
Originally posted by Ambient
Lunatik did knock him out, I just didn't remember that or maybe choose to forget it..lol But he is by far more durable and powerfull current showing..
Lunatik was freakin' hilarious. Personally, that was one of Surfers more interesting battles. Boiling the oceans was pretty badass.
Originally posted by Ambient
Thanos gets away with a lot of things.. I mean Surfer seems to forget half his powers against him, shield/teleportation/phasing etcc..etc.. Against Supes in KMC forum its not happening..
Agreed. SS does forget a lot of stuff against Thanos. T-vo (plot power to the extreme) takes care of that though.
It's been fun. Pleasure debatin' with ya. 🙂
Originally posted by darthgoober
Yep that's it.Couldn't the same be said for the time Supes was unable to catch Slade?
Same Superman was able to move Batman around the planet in mid-sentence and fight 2 battles in different cities on camera at the same time.
Change clothes completely while in line of sight of someone in multiple occasions.
Physically disarm armies before anyone of them could think.
Remove all artifacts from an enhanced Arions body before he could think/react/notice.
Rubbed his hands fast enough on panel to create an EM field that allowed him to seal a black hole.
Built a city in seconds while onlookers watched.
Defeated the Elite before they even knew what hit them.
Laughed at Mongul's speed and toyed with him even created after images, and Mongul has superspeed.
Speedblitzed Lobo, who also has superspeed.
Vibrated invisible and intangible through Doomsdays blasts and outsped him in battle.
Physically RAN with the FLASH and kept pace with him at high speeds.
Tons more I'm not remembering at the moment.
