Originally posted by h1a8
First of all, you are trolling. Please stop. Address my points if you are going to respond to me. Don't ignore them and post what you want. I'll give you an example, I will address everyone of your points below. I number your points above.1. We don't see an afterimage. We see Superman vibrating intangible. His center is exactly the same, his width is exactly the same.
2. I'm looking at the scans. Why are you trolling? There is no side to side motion anywhere. Superman is a phucking ghost when DD's fist goes through him. You are making stuff up that's not shown. This is trolling.
3. I don't have to provide scans. I can provide the issues or the actual scene where it happened. No one has every comic book but we all seen the feats.
Surfer was rocked by Thor (in Fear itself) and Warlock (in Infinity) for starters.
Now your turn, show me where Surfer wasn't affected by high herald level attacks after annihilation.4. Like I said, Surfer MUST do a hand gesture and energy must come from him to his target.
5. Everyone knows Surfer can phase, why show scans of it?
6. Flying outside of space and time is ambiguous. And if it was meant literally then It doesn't take speed to do that. Not a feat, but rather a statement of ambiguity or hyperbole anyway.
7. There is always time in-between panels. The time between can be debated. For example, it could have take Surfer 1.2 seconds to morph. Also, I don't know the context of that feat. I would like the issue numbers if you have them.
8. That has nothing to do with quantifiable speed. It takes more than speed to time travel in Marvel. Otherwise, everyone going faster than light would time travel. In real physics, time travel to the future requires speeds just under the speed of light. Speeds over the speed of light will not get you into the future.
9. This will not help him in a fight. Remember it takes Surfer time to do those things. 1 second to Superman is like an eternity.
10. Shields are good but they can be crumbled. omnidirectional blasts are good, if you can prove the strength of them are sufficient. If you say they can destroy a planet then that's no good since Superman has tanked far greater than that.
Surfer draining Superman within a microsecond before Superman rocks him will result in nothing since Superman would regain any power he lost in an instant. That's assuming Superman doesn't even try to avoid the draining blast.Superman has punching options, HV options (that will damage Surfer), freezing options, pressure points, intangibility options, etc.
This is too funny.
So what now Superman is going to rush Surfer and combo punch him before Surfer can even raise his hand?
And Superman's not even going to be slowed down by Omni-Directional Planet Busting Blasts and Forcefields that have held Savage Hulk?
LOL @
The stupidity of Superman fanboys.
FYI Freezing, Heat beams, Intangibility are all options for Surfer as well, plus like a million other options on top.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERsuperman is vastly stronger than savage hulk. I didn't say superman will combo him before surfer raises his hand. I said that since Surfer must raise his hand then superman can avoid his blasts.
This is too funny.So what now Superman is going to rush Surfer and combo punch him before Surfer can even raise his hand?
And Superman's not even going to be slowed down by Omni-Directional Planet Busting Blasts and Forcefields that have held Savage Hulk?
LOL @
The stupidity of Superman fanboys.
FYI Freezing, Heat beams, Intangibility are all options for Surfer as well, plus like a million other options on top.
I know what Surfer can do. But superman can avoid an attack and counter with a punch in the face. That's what I'm saying.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
This is too funny.So what now Superman is going to rush Surfer and combo punch him before Surfer can even raise his hand?
And Superman's not even going to be slowed down by Omni-Directional Planet Busting Blasts and Forcefields that have held Savage Hulk?
LOL @
The stupidity of Superman fanboys.
FYI Freezing, Heat beams, Intangibility are all options for Surfer as well, plus like a million other options on top.
Surfer has temporarily absorbed a sun and has turned to snow and he thinks heat vision and ice breath is going to harm him. Aint that a b*****. Surfer would fly through those attacks. H1 is a hypocrite. I want to see a scan of Superman tanking planetary attacks.
Partially Absorbs a sun.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/24487/586364-power_feat.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/24487/586365-feats.jpg
Surfer blasting power creating a humongous Black hole that was light yrs long iirc.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/24487/586367-annihilationsilversurfekp8.jpg
Tanks a planet busting blast (this is what I am asking H1 for).
http://s360.photobucket.com/user/aarons24/media/Silver%20Surfer/avengersannual1619je3.jpg.html
I can boil their fluids, open a singularity in their eye, expand their electrons until they phase out of reality with a gesture.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/9/99065/3542376-4613666605-21711.jpg
Originally posted by h1a8
4. Like I said, Surfer MUST do a hand gesture and energy must come from him to his target.Superman has punching options, HV options (that will damage Surfer), freezing options, pressure points, intangibility options, etc.
He sure didn't do it here.
http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/6253/304893-scan0017av4_super.jpg
Or here.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/43640/1163808-cabledeadpool102005stredj1.jpg
Heck his board has got PC as we'll and he can activate that anytime he choose, for blast or board bombs.
http://s22.photobucket.com/user/surfistaprateado/media/X-men_Unlimited_13-32.jpg.html
http://s22.photobucket.com/user/surfistaprateado/media/X-men_Unlimited_13-33.jpg.html
+ he can make as many boards anytime he wants.
http://media.animevice.com/uploads/3/30027/549386-2411693-annihilationsilversurfer4_012_super.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RGqdODpEnZw/UT2pbMqZefI/AAAAAAAAPV8/-Kpi6qrCnMs/s1600/Surfer+issue+4+002.jpg
His versatility + physical prowess is what I think his above Supe's.
Originally posted by carver9Surfer can be hurt by Thanos blasts, Odin's blasts etc.
Surfer has temporarily absorbed a sun and has turned to snow and he thinks heat vision and ice breath is going to harm him. Aint that a b*****. Surfer would fly through those attacks. H1 is a hypocrite. I want to see a scan of Superman tanking planetary attacks.
Superman has frozen stronger beings. Superman freezing Surfer would only be temporary (just to get a free hit in).
Originally posted by carver9
People under rate his physical prowess though. Not realizing that he has matched high tier being in fist cuff.
Champion (augmented)
https://imageshack.com/i/2ychamp2gq5j
That just to name a few.
Originally posted by Ambient
Where did you get the idea that Surfer must use hand gesture to activate his powers?He sure didn't do it here.
http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/6253/304893-scan0017av4_super.jpgOr here.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/43640/1163808-cabledeadpool102005stredj1.jpgHeck his board has got PC as we'll and he can activate that anytime he choose, for blast or board bombs.
http://s22.photobucket.com/user/surfistaprateado/media/X-men_Unlimited_13-32.jpg.html
http://s22.photobucket.com/user/surfistaprateado/media/X-men_Unlimited_13-33.jpg.html+ he can make as many boards anytime he wants.
http://media.animevice.com/uploads/3/30027/549386-2411693-annihilationsilversurfer4_012_super.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RGqdODpEnZw/UT2pbMqZefI/AAAAAAAAPV8/-Kpi6qrCnMs/s1600/Surfer+issue+4+002.jpgHis versatility + physical prowess is what I think his above Supe's.
I didn't say to activate his powers. I said to fire blasts. Yes you shown eye blasts (he did that once in his whole career). For the most part, the crux of my argument is that Surfer must send a blast of energy at Superman in order to blast him. Superman can easily avoid such blasts.
Oh, Superman has eye beams too. These eye beams can seriously phuck Surfer up.
Surfer making boards is irrelevant since he won't be able to do that in a forum fight. Guess why?
Originally posted by h1a8
Surfer can be hurt by Thanos blasts, Odin's blasts etc.
Superman's hv has feats beyond their blasts.
Superman's hv is far far hotter than the core of any star.Superman has frozen stronger beings. Superman freezing Surfer would only be temporary (just to get a free hit in).
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Originally posted by h1a8
I didn't say to activate his powers. I said to fire blasts. Yes you shown eye blasts (he did that once in his whole career). For the most part, the crux of my argument is that Surfer must send a blast of energy at Superman in order to blast him. Superman can easily avoid such blasts.
Oh, Superman has eye beams too. These eye beams can seriously phuck Surfer up.Surfer making boards is irrelevant since he won't be able to do that in a forum fight. Guess why?
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A guy that can partially absorb a sun and turn into snow being damaged by heat vision and ice breath. If anything, it would probably amp Surfer.
Originally posted by carver9Why doesn't any blast amp Surfer. Why didn't Odin's blast amp him or Warlock's or Thanos or other heralds? You are using a no limits fallacy. Remember Superman's HV is far hotter than the core of a yellow sun (which is far hotter than a red sun which Surfer absorb part of).
😂A guy that can partially absorb a sun and turn into snow being damaged by heat vision and ice breath. If anything, I would probably amp Surfer.
Surfer turns into snow will be disintegrated by Superman's hv immediately.
Originally posted by carver9
Partially Absorbs a sun.http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/24487/586364-power_feat.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/24487/586365-feats.jpgSurfer blasting power creating a humongous Black hole that was light yrs long iirc.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/24487/586367-annihilationsilversurfekp8.jpg
Tanks a planet busting blast (this is what I am asking H1 for).
http://s360.photobucket.com/user/aarons24/media/Silver%20Surfer/avengersannual1619je3.jpg.html
That's some pretty good evidence that HV isn't anything Surfer can't handle.
Also it's in Surfer's power set as stated by Galactus himself in the first Surfer issue that even the Inferno of the Hottest Star can't harm him. So that's not our Sun, but the hottest star in the Universe.
Originally posted by h1a8
Why doesn't any blast amp Surfer. Why didn't Odin's blast amp him or Warlock's or Thanos or other heralds? You are using a no limits fallacy. Remember Superman's HV is far hotter than the core of a yellow sun (which is far hotter than a red sun which Surfer absorb part of).Surfer turns into snow will be disintegrated by Superman's hv immediately.
I am using a comparison here. Superman heat vision can probably amp Surfer since he has amped before off of solar energy. Think it has actually happened more than once. That's like asking me if Surfer shot yellow sun light at Superman would it amp him...yes, it would since we've seen it happen before.
Again, anything cold isn't doing a thing to a being that can turn to freaking ice. Use your brain.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
That's some pretty good evidence that HV isn't anything Surfer can't handle.Also it's in Surfer's power set as stated by Galactus himself in the first Surfer issue that even the Inferno of the Hottest Star can't harm him. So that's not our Sun, but the hottest star in the Universe.
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Originally posted by h1a8
Why doesn't any blast amp Surfer. Why didn't Odin's blast amp him or Warlock's or Thanos or other heralds? You are using a no limits fallacy. Remember Superman's HV is far hotter than the core of a yellow sun (which is far hotter than a red sun which Surfer absorb part of).Surfer turns into snow will be disintegrated by Superman's hv immediately.
Odin's blasts are magical.
HV though is simply heat. It's extremely hot. Much hotter than the Sun, but still just heat. So it's nothing that Surfer can't handle. In fact it's the exact kind of energy he can manipulate. And so is Freeze breath.
Read the very first issue of Silver Surfer. Neither the Inferno of the Hottest Star or the frigid cold of space can harm him.
His whole power set is based on him being able to go anywhere in the Universe he wants/needs to. No matter how hot or cold.
Originally posted by carver9What are you talking about? Do you know what Superman is capable of with his hv? It's so powerful it makes the heat of stars look like flashlight.
I am using a comparison here. Superman heat vision can probably amp Surfer since he has amped before off of solar energy. Think it has actually happened more than once. That's like asking me if Surfer shot yellow sun light at Superman would it amp him...yes, it would since we've seen it happen before.Again, anything cold isn't doing a thing to a being that can turn to freaking ice. Use your brain.
The freeze breath is not meant to harm Surfer. It's meant to slow him down (encasing him in ice) for a free hit.
