Superman vs Silver surfer

Originally posted by Epicurus
He didn't say that.😬

You know better than to twist someone's statement.

I was drunk as all out when I typed that. Sorry folks. I wasnt going along with ABHI (which is what my previous statement does), I am going against his statement about Darth Goober. Correction...ABHI said that darth claimed that Superman wouldn't get one win over Surfer which was a lie. Darth never claimed that. He never seen it as a stomp or a one sided fight.

^ Yeah I figured you said that wrong.

Moral of the story... Drinking's bad.

Originally posted by h1a8
I didn't say to activate his powers. I said to fire blasts. Yes you shown eye blasts (he did that once in his whole career). For the most part, the crux of my argument is that Surfer must send a blast of energy at Superman in order to blast him. Superman can easily avoid such blasts.
Oh, Superman has eye beams too. These eye beams can seriously phuck Surfer up.

Surfer making boards is irrelevant since he won't be able to do that in a forum fight. Guess why?

Once??

What would you call this then.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/0/7666/786096-97silversurfer199612217bh0.jpg

or this.
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/silversurfer199612013xu7.jpg

and this - his got more but by now you get the gist. It is a valid tactic for him to use.
http://s22.photobucket.com/user/surfistaprateado/media/MCP175-p15.jpg.html

Of course in order for someone to fire a blast of energy, it has to travel towards the direction of the opponent. What exactly are you trying to point out? I mean this goes for Supe's physical and energy attack as well the difference is that Surfer can fire not only from his eyes and hands but omnidirectional as well which cannot be avoided, a far different circumstance for Supe's attacks. Surfer can either parry or dodge or use force field as defensive measure.

Originally posted by h1a8
Oh, Superman has eye beams too. These eye beams can seriously phuck Surfer up.

Surfer making boards is irrelevant since he won't be able to do that in a forum fight. Guess why?

Irrelevant?? You do know his got force field that have withstood Banner less Hulk and can make it as wide as a city. Its not going to forever hold against Supe's punches but it will buy him enough time to pull the charge board trick, not quite as irrelevant as you think.

Force field against Banner less Hulk.
http://s22.photobucket.com/user/surfistaprateado/media/Silver_Surfer_1997_125_26.jpg.html

City wide force field.
https://imageshack.com/i/24sscrushland3lj9j

like i said his physique and versatility is why he wins it against Supes.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And light years across black hole? Superman was chilling inside a black hole which was dragging the ****ing multiverse with it.

Originally posted by carver9
I was drunk as all out when I typed that.

We're here to help, Carv. Just say the word.

Originally posted by Ambient
Once??

What would you call this then.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/0/7666/786096-97silversurfer199612217bh0.jpg

or this.
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/silversurfer199612013xu7.jpg

and this - his got more but by now you get the gist. It is a valid tactic for him to use.
http://s22.photobucket.com/user/surfistaprateado/media/MCP175-p15.jpg.html

Of course in order for someone to fire a blast of energy, it has to travel towards the direction of the opponent. What exactly are you trying to point out? I mean this goes for Supe's physical and energy attack as well the difference is that Surfer can fire not only from his eyes and hands but omnidirectional as well which cannot be avoided, a far different circumstance for Supe's attacks. Surfer can either parry or dodge or use force field as defensive measure.

And Supposed Surfers planet destroying or black hole blast can't. Aren't we being a bit fanboyish.

Irrelevant?? You do know his got force field that have withstood Banner less Hulk and can make it as wide as a city. Its not going to forever hold against Supe's punches but it will buy him enough time to pull the charge board trick, not quite as irrelevant as you think.

Force field against Banner less Hulk.
http://s22.photobucket.com/user/surfistaprateado/media/Silver_Surfer_1997_125_26.jpg.html

City wide force field.
https://imageshack.com/i/24sscrushland3lj9j

like i said his physique and versatility is why he wins it against Supes.

Metron's Chair durability, the ground he was standing, + the fire in his shoulder, arms and cape must be as durable or immune to that black hole as him.. kinda fishy.

My point is that this will be a fight with Superman able to win some. Superman can avoid blasts by using speed or intangibility. Also, superman can counter surfers missed attack with a good punch or blast of hv. Yes Surfer has great defenses too that's why it wouldn't be easy for Superman.
Countering is Superman's best chance.

We'll of course, there's a reason why Superman is top tier.

Originally posted by Ambient

Metron's Chair durability, the ground he was standing, + the fire in his shoulder, arms and cape must be as durable or immune to that black hole as him.. kinda fishy.

😬

What a weak way to lowball a feat though.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Maybe I misunderstood you, but I thought you were comparing people saying Sufer wins to people who used to say the Earth was flat?

I was pointing JBL out his failed statement

Originally posted by Ambient
Once??

What would you call this then.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/0/7666/786096-97silversurfer199612217bh0.jpg

or this.
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/silversurfer199612013xu7.jpg

and this - his got more but by now you get the gist. It is a valid tactic for him to use.
http://s22.photobucket.com/user/surfistaprateado/media/MCP175-p15.jpg.html

Of course in order for someone to fire a blast of energy, it has to travel towards the direction of the opponent. What exactly are you trying to point out? I mean this goes for Supe's physical and energy attack as well the difference is that Surfer can fire not only from his eyes and hands but omnidirectional as well which cannot be avoided, a far different circumstance for Supe's attacks. Surfer can either parry or dodge or use force field as defensive measure.

And Supposed Surfers planet destroying or black hole blast can't. Aren't we being a bit fanboyish.

Irrelevant?? You do know his got force field that have withstood Banner less Hulk and can make it as wide as a city. Its not going to forever hold against Supe's punches but it will buy him enough time to pull the charge board trick, not quite as irrelevant as you think.

Force field against Banner less Hulk.
http://s22.photobucket.com/user/surfistaprateado/media/Silver_Surfer_1997_125_26.jpg.html

City wide force field.
https://imageshack.com/i/24sscrushland3lj9j

like i said his physique and versatility is why he wins it against Supes.

Metron's Chair durability, the ground he was standing, + the fire in his shoulder, arms and cape must be as durable or immune to that black hole as him.. kinda fishy.

Ownage.

Originally posted by h1a8
ok I learn something new about surfer, he can shoot eye beams. That's that definitely adds to him.

Why would you even think he can't shoot eye beams?

Why would you see one shot of him shooting eye beams and then say "that's the only time he's ever done it."

Face it h1a8, Surfer's just too damn versatile. And he's not a versatile Low Herald. He's a versatile (probably the most versatile) High Herald.

Add that to his traversing the Universe with ease and his own Nano-second reactions, and it's pretty silly to think Superman's speed is going to be any sort of advantage at all.

Whilst it's very easy to believe Surfer's versatility is going to give him all sorts of advantages in combat over Superman, and that's without even considering weakness exploitation.

Originally posted by h1a8
ok I learn something new about surfer, he can shoot eye beams. That's that definitely adds to him.

My point is that this will be a fight with Superman able to win some. Superman can avoid blasts by using speed or intangibility. Also, superman can counter surfers missed attack with a good punch or blast of hv. Yes Surfer has great defenses too that's why it wouldn't be easy for Superman.
Countering is Superman's best chance.

We learned that you don't know a thing about Surfer. So why debate against him? Surfers versatility, plus physical raw power, and speed pulls the high majority here.

Surfer rams a kryptonite dildo up Superman's butt, so fast and hard that a boy in India wakes up in the middle of the night, screaming, tears streaming down his cheeks... all four of them.

Originally posted by janus77
Surfer rams a kryptonite dildo up Superman's butt, so fast and hard that a boy in India wakes up in the middle of the night, screaming, tears streaming down his cheeks... all four of them.

😂

Silver Surfer wins after a hard fight.

Back in the 80's and the 90's I will have given the nod to the Silver Surfer or Thor over Superman.

I will consider Silver Surfer a better and more dangerous adversary for Superman than Thor (because of the weakness exploitation) but weakness exploitation is something that Superman faces almost on a daily basis, things that Superman has a lot of experience dealing with.

While you see Surfer and his horrible track record of physical fights vs beings I think (based on feats) are not as strong as Superman.

And while Raw travel Speed might be arguable to whom is faster, Superman's reflexes are superior to Surfer's

Surfer has microsecondS reaction time feats while Superman is in the nanosecond reaction time.

and since this is no longer the Byrne Superman I will give the nod to Superman

^ Surfer has Quantified Nanosecond reaction feats. Though I can't think of the instance right now, I'm almost certain of it. Just searching the entire Earth in seconds is nano-second timing.

Speed is not going to be any advantage over Surfer.

This fight will come down to the power of Surfer's Blasts vs Superman's durability.

Any weakness exploitation would just shift the odds in Surfer's favor.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
^ Surfer has Quantified Nanosecond reaction feats. Though I can't think of the instance right now, I'm almost certain of it. Just searching the entire Earth in seconds is nano-second timing.

Speed is not going to be any advantage over Surfer.

This fight will come down to the power of Surfer's Blasts vs Superman's durability.

Any weakness exploitation would just shift the odds in Surfer's favor.

I am not sure that searching the entire earth feat to be honest, I have seen it and is not quite clear how he searched the earth. It is iffy.

The other one he had where it was a "nanosecond" reaction time, it was a dream/nightmare.

Other than that I don't remember any other feat he had like that.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I am not sure that searching the entire earth feat to be honest, I have seen it and is not quite clear how he searched the earth. It is iffy.

Don't think it's Iffy, it's just a ridiculous feat.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
The other one he had where it was a "nanosecond" reaction time, it was a dream/nightmare.

Other than that I don't remember any other feat he had like that.

This one?:

http://www.comicvine.com/images/1300-1292558

Hmm it was the fear eater, so you might be right. Still it seems Surfer seems to think he can react in a Nano-Second.

As for a micro second one:

http://www.comicvine.com/images/1300-1292601

It takes BUT a microsecond for him to appraise the situation. I.e. in a Single Microsecond he has appraised the whole situation.

But then it says "And less time than that to streak to the fray". Meaning he's acted and moved in less than a microsecond.

So his reactions (and movements) are clearly faster than a micro second. How much faster we're no quantified. But looking at the other scan and the ridiculous Earth searching feat it's reasonable to assume that he can at least "react" in Nano Seconds.

But to be perfectly honest I don't think it matters whether his reactions are Nanoseconds or somewhere in between Nano and Micro. Because I think either way it's seems pretty unlikely Superman is hitting him first given Superman has to think, act, move to him and throw a punch. Whilst Surfer just has to react/think. And there's absolutely no way Superman is KOing him before he acts.

[QUOTE=14881537]Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Back in the 80's and the 90's I will have given the nod to the Silver Surfer or Thor over Superman.

I will consider Silver Surfer a better and more dangerous adversary for Superman than Thor (because of the weakness exploitation) but weakness exploitation is something that Superman faces almost on a daily basis, things that Superman has a lot of experience dealing with.

While you see Surfer and his horrible track record of physical fights vs beings I think (based on feats) are not as strong as Superman.

And while Raw travel Speed might be arguable to whom is faster, Superman's reflexes are superior to Surfer's

Surfer has microsecondS reaction time feats while Superman is in the nanosecond reaction time.

and since this is no longer the Byrne Superman I will give the nod to Superman [/QUOTE Surfer does have nanosecond reaction time and is a LOT faster than superman in travel speed. Could you show me superman reacting to something in the nanosecond range? I want to see it.

He's talking about action Comics 642 created in 1989where Superman talked to a GL and a ghost that was moving within the nanoseconds. I just downloaded the comic yesterday and I am going to post it in its entirety once my comic viewer is back up.

Originally posted by carver9
He's talking about action Comics 642 created in 1989where Superman talked to a GL and a ghost that was moving within the nanoseconds. I just downloaded the comic yesterday and I am going to post it in its entirety once my comic viewer is back up.