Superman vs Silver surfer

Started by carver9387 pages
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Funny Carver can find a way to talk about Hulk in a Superman vs SS thread, but cant explain his way out of how he uses feats from different Hulk but wont accept a slower lower feat from Blue Superman, talk about a hypocrisy.

I didn't bring up Hulk first. Read through the thread please.

I'm glad Green Lanterns were mentioned though, they are utterly perfect examples of why characters with feats of flying super fast in a straight line from point a to point b..don't necessarily have FTL reflexes.

Originally posted by h1a8
Versatility encompasses both slow powers and fast ones. I'm referring to the exotic slow ones. So why mention the term versatility? Only discuss specific abilities. For example, In the soul crunching scene it appeared that he achieved that in 3-5 seconds. Also there is no evidence to show that Surfer did that in less than 3 seconds. Thus we can't assume that he can.

Remember I said he can't unless you can prove that he can.

Prove that it takes time. Superman intangibility looked like it happened in 5 seconds. Also, Superman goes intangible, what then? You said he can't attack and from what we saw, he is still in one spot. The distance between him and Surfer is substantial. What happens when Superman goes intangible?

Originally posted by Surtur
Awesome! I enjoy Lobo and am glad he now has super speed. Please point me to the issue number where Lobo has a similar feat.

What, flying on a bike superfast like surfer on his board?

Why don't you post one of his reflex feats other than his board flying him somewhere?

Originally posted by Surtur
I'm glad Green Lanterns were mentioned though, they are utterly perfect examples of why characters with feats of flying super fast in a straight line from point a to point b..don't necessarily have FTL reflexes.

Lanterns have better reflex speed than surfer.

Fact.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What, flying on a bike superfast like surfer on his board?

Why don't you post one of his reflex feats other than his board flying him somewhere?

What's Superman best reflex speed ft (REFLEX/COMBAT). Then I will post Surfers.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What, flying on a bike superfast like surfer on his board?

Why don't you post one of his reflex feats other than his board flying him somewhere?

Yep, because flying fast in space in a straight line is totally akin to flying around searching an entire planet before a sentence can even be finished. Because of logic, of course.

Originally posted by carver9
What's Superman best reflex speed ft (REFLEX/COMBAT). Then I will post Surfers.

Superman overcoming time stop in a fraction of a nanosecond.

Your turn.

Originally posted by Surtur
Yep, because flying fast in space in a straight line is totally akin to flying around searching an entire planet before a sentence can even be finished. Because of logic, of course.

Who said Lobo flies in a straight line?

And who said Surfer actually searched whole planet? Maybe he just flew around earth or maybe he just used his cosmic awareness?

Where did he even said he searched whole planet just flying by?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman overcoming time stop in a fraction of a nanosecond.

Your turn.
Who said Lobo flies in a straight line?

And who said Surfer actually searched whole planet? Maybe he just flew around earth or maybe he just used his cosmic awareness?

Where did he even said he searched whole planet just flying by?

Sigh. So you don't have any combat showings? This is what we are discussing. Anyways, Surfer flew around so fast that he went back in time and was viewing timeoving backwards while doing this and reacting. You're turn.

Originally posted by carver9
Sigh. So you don't have any combat showings? This is what we are discussing. Anyways, Surfer flew around so fast that he went back in time and was viewing timeoving backwards while doing this and reacting. You're turn.

Superman overcoming time stop in a fight where he remained at top speed for days in MOS 29. But I like how overcoming time stop isn't a reflex speed unless he punched someone.

You're as Hypocritical as ever Carter.

That's not reflex speed. That's flying speed.

But yeah, you don't have anything.

Superman is slow. Surfer is slower, though.

But he doesn't need the speed when he can just morph into that deadly frog and eat all of abhi's superman posters.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman overcoming time stop in a fight where he remained at top speed for days in MOS 29. But I like how overcoming time stop isn't a reflex speed unless he punched someone.

You're as Hypocritical as ever Carter.

That's not reflex speed. That's flying speed.

But yeah, you don't have anything.

Scans of the time stop please.

You're a hypocrite.

Surfer was moving while he circled the planet FTL.

I have a lot and I'm using the same type of examples you're using.

Originally posted by carver9
Scans of the time stop please.

You're a hypocrite.

Surfer was moving while he circled the planet FTL.

I have a lot and I'm using the same type of examples you're using.


http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/SupermanDistortionField1.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/SupermanDistortionField2.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/SupermanDistortionField3.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/SupermanDistortionField4.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/SupermanDistortionField5.jpg

Now you're just butthurt.

It suits you.

Originally posted by abhilegend
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/SupermanDistortionField1.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/SupermanDistortionField2.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/SupermanDistortionField3.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/SupermanDistortionField4.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/SupermanDistortionField5.jpg

Now you're just butthurt.

It suits you.

Nice speed ft. Time wasn't stopped, it was slowed which is the reason Jimmy (yes, Jimmy) and Superman was able to talk (even though their words was coming out slow). Then, if I'm reading it right, time was being sped up as well.

Originally posted by carver9
Nice speed ft. Time wasn't stopped, it was slowed which is the reason Jimmy (yes, Jimmy) and Superman was able to talk (even though their words was coming out slow). Then, if I'm reading it right, time was being sped up as well.

facepalm

Originally posted by abhilegend
Lanterns have better reflex speed than surfer.

Fact.

😆 Right, because you say so.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
facepalm

He's right, time didn't actually stop, it was slowed.

Silver Frog eats Superdouche for a dinner.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman overcoming time stop in a fraction of a nanosecond.

Your turn.
Who said Lobo flies in a straight line?

And who said Surfer actually searched whole planet? Maybe he just flew around earth or maybe he just used his cosmic awareness?

Where did he even said he searched whole planet just flying by?

EDIT: You know what I'm going to edit this response and cut right to the chase: before you kept saying how you had scans that proved Superman could defeat Silver Surfer. Why not post them? If your scans show what you claim I'll concede to them, I'd love if Superman was more powerful then Surfer. I just unfortunately don't see it as of now.

Originally posted by carver9
Prove that it takes time. Superman intangibility looked like it happened in 5 seconds. Also, Superman goes intangible, what then? You said he can't attack and from what we saw, he is still in one spot. The distance between him and Surfer is substantial. What happens when Superman goes intangible?
everything that happens takes time. So that proves it takes time. Stop lying, Superman's intangibility didn't look like it took 5 seconds. He became intangible the instant he was attacked, going through Doomsday fists and through two energy beams (Speed of light).

Superman goes intangible to avoid attacks (or just dodges them), not to stay intangible. He Also can move around while intangibility. 0.5 km is not substantial to a character that can cover that distance in less than a microsecond.

Superman can just shoot hv at Surfer. Surfer has to defend or be maneuvering. He has no time to do anything else.