Superman vs Silver surfer

Started by Blue Area Vet387 pages
Originally posted by -Pr-
The whole "cutting him off" thing isn't a sure-fire win. It's an option, sure, but it's also been tried before. Superman as a character has several villains that are energy manipulators.

On the level of Surfer? I'd say not.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
On the level of Surfer? I'd say not.

You're right, Superman has outright overcome energy/matter manipulation from entities that exceed Surfer.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Like I said if you feel so strongly about your case step up to the plate with judges so judges decide who wins the debate and we are spared of your constant butt hurt with abhi. Imo

How about you keep your advice to your self and stick to being a Superman apologist? You haven't added a thing to the discussion outside of drama. Go watch The View

Originally posted by Board Walker
You're right, Superman has outright overcome energy/matter manipulation from entities that exceed Surfer.

Examples. You've already made a false statement.

Also, he hasn't resisted draining every time, has he? Thanks.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
How about you keep your advice to your self and stick to being a Superman apologist? You haven't added a thing to the discussion outside of drama. Go watch The View

How about you do us all a favor and jump off a cliff?

What's this?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
How about you do us all a favor and jump off a cliff?

😆

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I don't know if you lie on purpose or if you twist things by mistake but darthgoober was not banned from abhi's issue.

Lets see Quan was Darthgoober banned?

No he wasn't the ones banned from that time was abhi, lob and bw.
goober nor blue were banned so stop lying and trying to justify blue area vet.

As for the rest wrong as usual.

Are you sure ?

Either way abhi got banned after someone accepted his challenge.

Goober was banned. You're usually wrong but the point is abhi can issue a challenge but keep this challenge nonsense from cluttering up threads, sport.

🙂

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
I don't see anyone treating his abilities like a magic button. The point is a) he has those exotic abilities and B) he has the physical ability to match him that will buy him time in the battle.

Someone said earlier that it was "his fight to lose". Not hard to put two and two together.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
On the level of Surfer? I'd say not.

Herald-level beings with more knowledge of how to exploit his powers isn't comparable? Really?

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Blue, TI, Quan, Rao? Act civil or don't post. No lowballing or derailing either, thanks.

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Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
What's this?

An example of it working. Great. So you want to use those, but not the times when he's fought while being subjected to weakness exploitation?

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Examples. You've already made a false statement.

Also, he hasn't resisted draining every time, has he? Thanks.

Your declaration of me making a false statement is a false statement.

No he has not resisted matter/energy manipulation every time, but he has resisted it more times than he has not. Furthermore, he has resisted and overcome such manipulation attempts from skyfather level characters.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Someone said earlier that it was "his fight to lose". Not hard to put two and two together.

Herald-level beings with more knowledge of how to exploit his powers isn't comparable? Really?

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Blue, TI, Quan, Rao? Act civil or don't post. No lowballing or derailing either, thanks.

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An example of it working. Great. So you want to use those, but not the times when he's fought while being subjected to weakness exploitation?

Exactly how many examples do I need? Triumph is < Surfer, that's what matters. Superman didn't "flat out resist it" and no amount of tough talk will change this cannon showing. Surfer has control over the electromagnetic spectrum plus many other powers. Looks likeTriumphs powers are working like a magic pill. I have no idea why you would think Surfer wouldn't do the same especially when he did it to Hulk. That's just a weak argument IMO.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Your declaration of me making a false statement is a false statement.

No he has not resisted matter/energy manipulation every time, but he has resisted it more times than he has not. Furthermore, he has resisted and overcome such manipulation attempts from skyfather level characters.

Yes you did and PR corrected you. Did you forget that?

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Exactly how many examples do I need? Triumph is < Surfer, that's what matters. Superman didn't "flat out resist it" and no amount of tough talk will change this cannon showing. Surfer has control over the electromagnetic spectrum plus many other powers. Looks likeTriumphs powers are working like a magic pill. I have no idea why you would think Surfer wouldn't do the same especially when he did it to Hulk. That's just a weak argument IMO.

We go by averages, not "that one showing that helps your argument the most". On average, Superman resists or triumphs (pun intended) over energy manipulators more than they do over him. It's not weak when the evidence is in the comics.

"But it's Surfer" is not an argument.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Yes you did and PR corrected you. Did you forget that?

Pr just states prior and post of this post that superman resists/overcomes energy/matter manipulation more than he doesn't.

I think you need reading comprehension.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
How about you keep your advice to your self and stick to being a Superman apologist? You haven't added a thing to the discussion outside of drama. Go watch The View

Maybe you should man up and step up to the plate, your whining is tiresome

Let me help you out here is Abhi's quote and a direct link to the last page so you don't get lost and finally face the music instead of crying.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So any takers for this? Open challenge to any surfer fan.

Now onto Quani evilgrin

Originally posted by quanchi112
Are you sure ?

Either way abhi got banned after someone accepted his challenge.

Goober was banned. You're usually wrong but the point is abhi can issue a challenge but keep this challenge nonsense from cluttering up threads, sport.

🙂

So easy to own you dude

Originally posted by Badabing
LoB, Abhi and BW all have a week off. I like you guys, and it's fun joking on KMC. But when Pr, or any mod, says stop then it's best to do so. This behavior of trashing several threads and flat out ignoring mods is not acceptable. That and all the posts I had to delete.

Blue Area Vet and Carver, you both were very close. Pr felt you didn't deserve temp bans. Be very glad Pr is more forgiving than me. And Carver, remember this post the next time you accuse Pr of hating on you.

Darthgoober, you haven't been on KMC much lately and may have forgotten how things work here. I hope this behavior was an aberration in the heat of debate and won't happen again.

and here is goober post right away just to show he was not banned

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yup... Guess I should wait a while and let things cool off all around before I reissue the challenge 😂

Back on topic....

Surfer wins a definitive majority in a typical forum match with weakness exploitation as an option. Better ranged game, way more offensive options, way better defensive options, and closer to Clark in the couple areas in which Supes has an edge than vice versa.

and so you cannot keep lying here is a link to the page in question:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=15277250&highlight=userid%3A99400#post15277250

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Exactly how many examples do I need? Triumph is < Surfer, that's what matters. Superman didn't "flat out resist it" and no amount of tough talk will change this cannon showing. Surfer has control over the electromagnetic spectrum plus many other powers. Looks likeTriumphs powers are working like a magic pill. I have no idea why you would think Surfer wouldn't do the same especially when he did it to Hulk. That's just a weak argument IMO.

Triumph was powered by a 5th dimensional imp crylaugh0

Jesus. Guys, I just said to stop acting like asses to each other. It's the one thing more than anything else that'll get you banned.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Jesus. Guys, I just said to stop acting like asses to each other. It's the one thing more than anything else that'll get you banned.

I will keep it cool, just had to respond 😎

Originally posted by -Pr-
We go by averages, not "that one showing that helps your argument the most". On average, Superman resists or triumphs (pun intended) over energy manipulators more than they do over him. It's not weak when the evidence is in the comics.

"But it's Surfer" is not an argument.

I'm making the claim that Surfer, who has control over the electromagnetic spectrum, can easily drain Superman and provided and example of it working. Other posters are making the claim that he can't. Where the hell is their evidence? There has to be multiple attempts of this sort of draining or else, this IS the average and it's 100%. The burden is on the posters claiming this nonsense about him having control over his energy to prevent this kind of draining.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
I'm making the claim that Surfer, who has control over the electromagnetic spectrum, can easily drain Superman and provided and example of it working. Other posters are making the claim that he can't. Where the hell is their evidence? There has to be multiple attempts as this sort of draining or else, this IS the average and it's 100%. The burden is on the posters claiming this nonsense about him having control over his energy to prevent this kind of draining.

You provide an example of a being magically powered by a 5d imp

You know 5d imps >> Galactus right?

Is Silver Sufer powered by magic on that level?