Superman vs Silver surfer

Originally posted by Juntai

Basically under a red sun, a drained Superman survives the force of 50 supernovas, and flies off unharmed.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
👆 And that, is why Supes can beat Surfer. For a majority is debatable. But he is fully capable of beating the surfer.

In the end, it is clear that some people will not concede Superman would go down for the clear majority. Many people would go so far as to say red sun radiation wouldn't even give Surfer an advantage. And as subtley and as crafty as you may hide it, this is indeed fanboyism at its truest.

It truly is. I debate for a living. I know what the last several posts are for. They are a smoke screen. A side issue used to cover up the glaring main issue. It's a tactic often used, sometimes without even knowing it. The main issue is Superman is outclassed in durability and versatility. You are clearly defeated on the main issue of being outclassed, so you decide to seize upon a debatable side issue such as, "Red sun radiation would not let Surfer one-shot Superman." When you appear to have won that side issue, you come out with the appearance that you have somehow made ground on the main issue when you really haven't.

The sad thing is, not a lot of people are arguing that anyway, except the Surfer fanboys. Which indeed works in your favor, because now you can seize upon the fanboy characterization and subjectively project that upon all Surfer supporters and try to act as if our entire position is supported by child-like idiots. No. It doesn't work. It's clever and subtle, but in the end, it's desperate. Surfer's durability and versatility are not negated to such a degree by this small quasi-victory of yours that the end result would be any different.

Silver Surfer makes black holes, defeats herald level foes inside black holes w/o his board and can snuff out suns.

Superman has survived exposure to black holes and can break planets apart.

When he upgrades to Surfer's level, then bump this thread again. Til then, nobody except Superman fanboys will ever seriously consider Superman even taking a split in this battle. It's been that way from the beginning and no amount of sidestepping or crafty debating will change that.

Silver Surfer 7/10.

sounds like ur a fan boy to cuz..and like i said i am not even a fan boy but superman ain't loosing..I've put it all together it would go on for about a day or 2 at most fight all around the universe and one more thing surfer is not more durable them superman! SUPERMAN ALL THE WAY

yes, the capital letters settle the matter 🙂

... all the way to where? 😕

Originally posted by OneDumbG0 No. He was pretty harmed. Your scans say his power is evaporating. Indeed he didn't have the strength to accelerate beyond light speeds and had to be saved by his Pa.
He is. Maybe 2-3 out of 10 fights. But if you read your scan more closely, you see that he only survived the electromagnetic shock wave and rode it ahead of the deadly "incinerating radiation" that would have killed him if his Pa didn't save him. Don't blame me, it's your guys' scan. Just don't make it appear that he survived a 50X red sun supernova from inside when he clearly rode out the brunt of it on a shockwave.

In the end, it is clear that some people will not concede Superman would go down for the clear majority. Many people would go so far as to say red sun radiation wouldn't even give Surfer an advantage. And as subtley and as crafty as you may hide it, this is indeed fanboyism at its truest.

It truly is. I debate for a living. I know what the last several posts are for. They are a smoke screen. A side issue used to cover up the glaring main issue. It's a tactic often used, sometimes without even knowing it. The main issue is Superman is outclassed in durability and versatility. You are clearly defeated on the main issue of being outclassed, so you decide to seize upon a debatable side issue such as, "Red sun radiation would not let Surfer one-shot Superman." When you appear to have won that side issue, you come out with the appearance that you have somehow made ground on the main issue when you really haven't.

The sad thing is, not a lot of people are arguing that anyway, except the Surfer fanboys. Which indeed works in your favor, because now you can seize upon the fanboy characterization and subjectively project that upon all Surfer supporters and try to act as if our entire position is supported by child-like idiots. No. It doesn't work. It's clever and subtle, but in the end, it's desperate. Surfer's durability and versatility are not negated to such a degree by this small quasi-victory of yours that the end result would be any different.

Silver Surfer makes black holes, defeats herald level foes inside black holes w/o his board and can snuff out suns.

Superman has survived exposure to black holes and can break planets apart.

When he upgrades to Surfer's level, then bump this thread again. Til then, nobody except Superman fanboys will ever seriously consider Superman even taking a split in this battle. It's been that way from the beginning and no amount of sidestepping or crafty debating will change that.

Silver Surfer 7/10.

Now that that is out of the way, lets look at combat scenarios... Superman has defeated gods, demons, high end cosmic threats and mostly under his own power, and when Surfer runs into beings of similar calibre, he is often enough just swatted to the ground unconscious without effort on the half of the protagonist.
Superman has beaten Darkseid under his own power, Surfer gets KOed every time he runs into Darkseid's Marvel knockoff.

I could go on and on.. But you'll ignore this all anyways and/or try to make it all seem irrelivent, and run off on several tangets without purpose or base, and try to assert yourself as a winner of sorts. Just like your last post, and most every debate you're in. .

At least you've got Superman with a few out of the ten, and that's your opinion, but at least you acknowledge Superman CAN beat him, which is the point.

Originally posted by Soljer
Agreed.

The Surfer CAN be beaten by Superman.

I don't really think for a majority. But he's plenty capable.

co-sign

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
👆 And that, is why Supes can beat Surfer. For a majority is debatable. But he is fully capable of beating the surfer.

Originally posted by lionking
what happens if surfer makes the efect millions times a supernova. mixed with k nite.

its possible he weilds some thing superman has never come across

POWER COSMIC

Superman punches through the Power Cosmic. 😐

😖hifty:

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Originally posted by Adult Swim Guy
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Originally posted by Validus
Superman's low end = Electric fence
Surfer's low end = Brick to the face.

Superman wins.

LOL Good one 😄

Kudos on making this amazing discovery years after everyone else. 😛

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
No. He was pretty harmed. Your scans say his power is evaporating. Indeed he didn't have the strength to accelerate beyond light speeds and had to be saved by his Pa.
He is. Maybe 2-3 out of 10 fights. But if you read your scan more closely, you see that he only survived the electromagnetic shock wave and rode it ahead of the deadly "incinerating radiation" that would have killed him if his Pa didn't save him. Don't blame me, it's your guys' scan. Just don't make it appear that he survived a 50X red sun supernova from inside when he clearly rode out the brunt of it on a shockwave.

In the end, it is clear that some people will not concede Superman would go down for the clear majority. Many people would go so far as to say red sun radiation wouldn't even give Surfer an advantage. And as subtley and as crafty as you may hide it, this is indeed fanboyism at its truest.

It truly is. I debate for a living. I know what the last several posts are for. They are a smoke screen. A side issue used to cover up the glaring main issue. It's a tactic often used, sometimes without even knowing it. The main issue is Superman is outclassed in durability and versatility. You are clearly defeated on the main issue of being outclassed, so you decide to seize upon a debatable side issue such as, "Red sun radiation would not let Surfer one-shot Superman." When you appear to have won that side issue, you come out with the appearance that you have somehow made ground on the main issue when you really haven't.

The sad thing is, not a lot of people are arguing that anyway, except the Surfer fanboys. Which indeed works in your favor, because now you can seize upon the fanboy characterization and subjectively project that upon all Surfer supporters and try to act as if our entire position is supported by child-like idiots. No. It doesn't work. It's clever and subtle, but in the end, it's desperate. Surfer's durability and versatility are not negated to such a degree by this small quasi-victory of yours that the end result would be any different.

Silver Surfer makes black holes, defeats herald level foes inside black holes w/o his board and can snuff out suns.

Superman has survived exposure to black holes and can break planets apart.

When he upgrades to Surfer's level, then bump this thread again. Til then, nobody except Superman fanboys will ever seriously consider Superman even taking a split in this battle. It's been that way from the beginning and no amount of sidestepping or crafty debating will change that.

Silver Surfer 7/10.

shit

Superman (aka the man who has survived everything) vs Silver Surfer

That's a hard one thumbup

Silver Surfer is a true bad a## with his assorted powers and all, but come on we're talking about Superman

What happens when Superman haymaker's Silver Surfer off of his board (which one of Superman punches would do), afterwards Superman takes the board and destroys it. Silver Surfer want be able to fly without. Upperhand Superman. Superman freezes SS in an instant and before SS could get free, Superman pounds the f$$k out of him and rips his head off.

SS rip

Originally posted by jmcnasty
Superman (aka the man who has survived everything) vs Silver Surfer

That's a hard one thumbup

Silver Surfer is a true bad a## with his assorted powers and all, but come on we're talking about Superman

What happens when Superman haymaker's Silver Surfer off of his board (which one of Superman punches would do), afterwards Superman takes the board and destroys it. Silver Surfer want be able to fly without. Upperhand Superman. Superman freezes SS in an instant and before SS could get free, Superman pounds the f$$k out of him and rips his head off.

SS rip

Originally posted by Soleran
a sleeping sufer

.

rofl

Superman gets that close to Surfer and Surfer would throw him back a couple of galaxies with an energy attack.

Surfer can fly without the board, it's just that it is his signature thing... or else it'd be kinda ridiculous being called the "Surfer" without a surfboard.

he's too versatile, too durable and too quick for Superman, imo.

Originally posted by Soleran
shitshitshitshit

Can you please post an argument instead of your ridiculous sarcasm.

Shit is sarcastic?

Well, guess you learn something new everyday...

Originally posted by jmcnasty
Can you please post an argument instead of your ridiculous sarcasm.

Originally posted by Soleran
shitshitshitshit

Sorry but superman would juck it lol then snap his neck surfer can but wont beat the man of steal because superman was made to win not lose and he has went threw any and everything you can think of