Racism

Originally posted by Robtard
You'd be surprised how many "Blacks" truly believe that skin color plays are role in many varied attributes. The N.O.I. thinks "Whites" are genetically engineered to be evil.

Can you name some of those attributes? I bet that whatever you list will be even justifiable to you, with regards to their skin color cause we, or at least I do, know/s how hard it is for Blacks in this country still, 50 years after the U.S. Gov't banned Whites from legally discriminating against people who didn't look lke them.

2ndly, the N.O.I. and all its supporters are racists and extremist wackos with twisted views and no sense of reality and have never been taken serious by me. Evil can't be bred. It's a choice that happens due to circumstance.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Can you name some of those attributes? I bet that whatever you list will be even justifiable to you, with regards to their skin color cause we, or at least I do, know/s how hard it is for Blacks in this country still, 50 years after the U.S. Gov't banned Whites from legally discriminating against people who didn't look lke them.

2ndly, the N.O.I. and all its supporters are racists and extremist wackos with twisted views and no sense of reality and have never been taken serious by me. Evil can't be bred. It's a choice that happens due to circumstance.

E.G. I forgot which black NBA star it was, but he said "Larry [Bird] is pretty good for a White-Boy." Meaning, he thought "Whites" were less capable than "Blacks" in basketball because of "skin color".

My point though, which you missed, was that "Whites" don't hold the copyright on believing skin color determines what a person is capable of.

So... are you clumping all (or the majority of) "Whites" again into one group?

Originally posted by Mindship
My understanding is this...

It's not that black people necessarily have more muscle mass. For many, sports is a way out of impoverished neighborhoods, so they focus on that more than on an education.

Black people may also appear to be more muscled because they have less subcutaneous fat, so shape and definition stand out more, which gives the illusion of size. Less subcutaneous fat is also why you don't see many black Olympic swimmers: fat is buoyant (swimming is also not hip-hop cool, AFAIK). The less fat you have, odds are the more energy you'll need to keep yourself afloat (in addition to moving forward).

Some would say that White American Slavers, like some our of former dead U.S. presidents, use to breed blacks and pair them up so as to couple the big black man and the big black woman, and force them to have more offspring than a mofo.

Others would say that the physical endurance it took to survive in African over the centuries has developed them in this way.

What I'll tell you about the fat issue is that Blacks having or growing less fat than Whites is completely incorrect. Blacks people are the most overweight group in the country. So wouldn't that make more of them buoyant and or better able to swim, hypothetically speaking.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Did you mean what if the Chinese raised Black child went back to the ghetto and the ghetto raised Chinese kid went back to China? If so I'm gonna have to disagree with your thought on how you think the underprivileged child would turn out if and when swapped at that age.

Most ghetto kids, especially at that age, especially after going thought the trauma of living in a ghetto environment are hardly motivated or care less to prove anything to anyone even themselves unless it's to prove how cool or tough they are. Even at that age. The Chinese kid would fail.

The Black kid might be teased and called white by his African peers but he'll still continue on and excel because anti-intellectualism wasn't imprinted in his brain during those significant early stages in his life. And he was taught well enough that going to school was the way to go if you wanted to get ahead.

No, I meant it the other way around. Raise the children in their respective native environments and then swap them when they are 6 or 7.

Originally posted by Robtard
E.G. I forgot which black NBA star it was, but he said "Larry [Bird] is pretty good for a White-Boy." Meaning, he thought "Whites" were less capable than "Blacks" in basketball because of "skin color".

My point though, which you missed, was that "Whites" don't hold the copyright on believing skin color determines what a person is capable of.

So... are you clumping all (or the majority of) "Whites" again into one group?

Black people were banned from playing any professional sports in the United States for years! Cause Whites said "No, he's Black". In baseball they had to form a Negro league... Yet a black dude says "he's good for a White boy" and he's the big bad racist oppressor using his color to justify the comment. Gimme a break.

It's hard for me to agree with you on your second statement when even the subject/person of this thread, whom is White, believes skin color determines what a person is capable of. And that's besides the history of some/most Whites in the United States and their treatment of Blacks..If they don't or didn't hold it than who do you think does?

And no I'm not clumping Whites into a group. Don't start with that.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
ps. what's with all this African American B.S.? that is just as racist as n-gger. A black american is just as much an american as you or I. No differential is warranted. If you know a guy from Kenya who has lived in the U.S. for 7 years and has become a legalized citizen, he is an African-American. Just because some black dude you know named Rob from Chicago had ancestors from Africa, makes him no more an African-American than everybody else European-Americans or European/American-Americans. If you're born here, you're an American.......enough of this hyphenated crap to segregate races.

"African-American" is more PC than "black". Also, if a person migrates from the Africa to the USA and becomes a citizen, they are called "Afro-Americans." They are just PC terms that have exact definitions. So is it wrong for me to call myself an Italian?

I personally don't like calling African-Americans "black" because where I grew up, the racist white people would use the word "black" in a derogatory way. Being called black also carries a derogatory connotation with it sometimes.

Not all African-Americans like to be called "African-Americans". They would rather be called black.

In the mean time, I will remain as politically correct as possible by using "African-American". Also, America is neither a "melting pot" or a "mixing bowl": it is both. People like to keep their heritage but they also conform to American norms.

Why is everybody so sure he (James Watson) is absolutely wrong?

Originally posted by dadudemon
No, I meant it the other way around. Raise the children in their respective native environments and then swap them when they are 6 or 7.

Ok. The black kid would feel alienated as sh*t. He'd feel the full impact of cultural shock from being in a truly alien environment his parents most likely never told him about.

There's a saying that goes "you could take a "n*gga out the ghetto, but you can't take the ghetto out a n*gga." He most likely adopted the anti-intellectual ghetto mentally destroying the black community right now and behave in an anti-social manner towards his new peers. In other words he'd fail (to fit in or learn anything ultimately failing in life). -that's in most cases-and that's not even counting the forces of inevitable racism that's likely to occur in either direction.

The Chinese kid wouldn't kinda really care to fit in cause of humility and how well it is taught and how highly regarded it is in Chinese society and he'd humbly keep to himself and still excel despite probably not having few friends cause he's "smart" or "does his homework" which is not a good thing in the ghetto. But he'd ultimately he'd succeed.

Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
Why is everybody so sure he (James Watson) is absolutely wrong?

Well if you take what h said literally, then yes, he is right. The majority of blacks are least educated of the three races of the world. This is because most of them live in extremely poor countries in Africa and islands. However, I think he was just saying "niggas is just stupid." However, we may be wrong. He may actually be making a valid point that many Africans, especially in America, are not applying themselves.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Black people were banned from playing any professional sports in the United States for years! Cause Whites said "No, he's Black". In baseball they had to form a Negro league... Yet a black dude says "he's good for a White boy" and he's the big bad racist oppressor using his color to justify the comment. Gimme a break.

It's hard for me to agree with you on your second statement when even the subject/person of this thread, whom is White, believes skin color determines what a person is capable of. And that's besides the history of some/most Whites in the United States and their treatment of Blacks..If they don't or didn't hold it than who do you think does?

And no I'm not clumping Whites into a group. Don't start with that.

Regardless, racism on one side doesn't make racism on another any more acceptable.

So you think "Whites" have some sort of copyright on being racist, yet you're somehow not clumping all/the majority of "Whites" together... yeah, think about that one for a second.

Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
Why is everybody so sure he (James Watson) is absolutely wrong?

I'm not. There very well may be different cognative difference based on genetics.

Here is proof that I didn't say I was sure:

Originally posted by dadudemon
At the moment, we will have to wait and see but how I have seen it thus far, Negroids have just as much of a cognitive capacity as any other humans do.

Originally posted by Bardiel13
Well if you take what h said literally, then yes, he is right. The majority of blacks are least educated of the three races of the world. This is because most of them live in extremely poor countries in Africa and islands. However, I think he was just saying "niggas is just stupid." However, we may be wrong. He may actually be making a valid point that many Africans, especially in America, are not applying themselves.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I'm not. There very well may be different cognative difference based on genetics.

Here is proof that I didn't say I was sure:

Well almost everybody except you two seem to be thinking "What an idiot".

Originally posted by dadudemon
I am not sure what you mean there. I agreed with a point specifically to show its invalidity. In other words, I did exactly what I intended to do.

I wanted to show that indeed, there is an IQ gap. (Inimilist actually showed that, but I agreed with it.) I then wanted to show why an IQ gap isn't really a genuine marker of cognitive differences due to the environment of the individual.

Some hold that the newest IQ tests try to actually test the IQ of the individual despite their educational background...meaning that even if you are not educated, you would score close to the same. However, I still don't personally feel that current IQ tests are great at actually testing the IQ of a person despite their education. Can that ever be done?

No IQ test can ever be accurate. IQ test do not show intelligence and never will.

Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
Well almost everybody except you two seem to be thinking "What an idiot".

Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
Well almost everybody except you two seem to be thinking "What an idiot".

How utterly irrelevant of you.

Originally posted by Bardiel13
Probably, because we don't tend to jump on bandwagons. One guy gets paraphrased poorly and suddenly everyone's jumping over him for being racist. It's not racist, but fact, that there is a considerable number of people of African descent that are simply not very bright people (several factors may apply) .

He also said he hoped that all people were created equal, but he added that "people who have to deal with black employees find this is not true."

"To all those who have drawn the inference from my words that Africa, as a continent, is somehow genetically inferior, I can only apologize unreservedly. That is not what I meant. More importantly from my point of view, there is no scientific basis for such a belief."

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom

And there you have it, folks!

T-that he made a racist comment?

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
T-that he made a racist comment?

No, that people love to go seeking out racism that isn't present.

Like those dratted slaves?