Which swordsman can match or defeat Sephiroth?

Weiss wouldn't stand a chance, the Deepground members are just another one of Hojo's experiments to try to create another Sephiroth.

Whoa, there cowboy, you're way off base on Weiss and the Tsviets. Hojo, who had a major hand in Sephiroth's creation, made Vincent, has fought Cloud, and seen many insane creatures says in Dirge of Cerberus "Then I remembered Deepground, home to the most powerful beings on the planet."

Now at this point Sephiroth is gone, so he isn't in the equation, but this means Hojo, who knows the strength of every great warrior on the planet, considers the Tsviets to be above Cloud, Vincent, the rest of Crisis AVALANCHE, Genesis, and everything else. When you consider that Weiss in his base form completely owned the shit out of Rosso and Azul in their strongest forms while he was only using one hand, and taunting them the whole fight, base Weiss is about equal to pre Nibelheim Sephiroth. Omega Weiss, while not equal with AC Sephiroth, is around his level and there is a good chance that he could beat him.

Here's a link to the video of base Weiss in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QfjkzLK3Cw

Skull Knight from Berserk would make Sephiroth cry in a sword duel.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
the Master Chief and Darth Revan. Revan for sure. In the world of top-tier swordfighters, Sephiroth's sword fighting skills aren't exactly most 1337.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Whoa, there cowboy, you're way off base on Weiss and the Tsviets. Hojo, who had a major hand in Sephiroth's creation, made Vincent, has fought Cloud, and seen many insane creatures says in Dirge of Cerberus "Then I remembered Deepground, [b]home to the most powerful beings on the planet."

Now at this point Sephiroth is gone, so he isn't in the equation, but this means Hojo, who knows the strength of every great warrior on the planet, considers the Tsviets to be above Cloud, Vincent, the rest of Crisis AVALANCHE, Genesis, and everything else. When you consider that Weiss in his base form completely owned the shit out of Rosso and Azul in their strongest forms while he was only using one hand, and taunting them the whole fight, base Weiss is about equal to pre Nibelheim Sephiroth. Omega Weiss, while not equal with AC Sephiroth, is around his level and there is a good chance that he could beat him.

Here's a link to the video of base Weiss in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QfjkzLK3Cw [/B]

That comment means nothing now that Sephiroth is gone, Sephiroth while he was alive was far stronger then the 2nd strongest being on Earth and considers them no threat, im sure Sephiroth would own Rosso and Azul in the blink on an eye, id say base weiss is about as equal to sephiroth while he was still in SOLDIER remember, even before Sephiroth had his powerups is still capable of flying around and chopping up buildings., and Omega Weiss is about as equal to Safer Sephiroth, however AC Sephiroth would definitely win.

But if we're talking just pure skills, that means Weiss doesn't get his powerups, same with Sephiroth... Sephiroth is more skilled,

Originally posted by Thiru
We know absolutely nothing of revans dueling capabilities, though he was the best in the kotor era, we have no idea just how great, it can be argued vader is superior to him in that category

I would too. I believe that Vader is in the top five most powerful, actually.

I also believe that if it came down to it, Vader could probably take down Sephiroth in a battle of materia vs. the force.

But if we're talking just pure skills, that means Weiss doesn't get his powerups, same with Sephiroth... Sephiroth is more skilled,

If its just pre Nibelheim Sephirotrh vs Base Weiss it could go either way, Sephiroth is a bit stronger, and Weiss is a bit faster, so it a complete toss up. AC Sephiroth vs Omega Weiss is not a definite win for Sephiroth though. Remember Cloud, who is weaker than Omega Weiss by far, still beat Sephiroth in AC.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
If its just pre Nibelheim Sephirotrh vs Base Weiss it could go either way, Sephiroth is a bit stronger, and Weiss is a bit faster, so it a complete toss up. AC Sephiroth vs Omega Weiss is not a definite win for Sephiroth though. Remember Cloud, who is weaker than Omega Weiss by far, still beat Sephiroth in AC.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Simple question: Who can match or defeat Sephiroth in a strict swordfight?

Anyone from video games. However only sword skill will be involved here. I don't want anything else. Just good ole sword battle.

Actual on-screen feats are needed for this. I'll settle for nothing less.

Discuss.

Pure swordplay? I would say Revan but not much is known about his swordfighting skills. Link and Ganondorf are two named that easily pop into mind. Maybe Ryu (NG) would be able to match Sephiroth in swordfighting. Dal from Dragon Blade might be up there.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
If its just pre Nibelheim Sephirotrh vs Base Weiss it could go either way, Sephiroth is a bit stronger, and Weiss is a bit faster, so it a complete toss up. AC Sephiroth vs Omega Weiss is not a definite win for Sephiroth though. Remember Cloud, who is weaker than Omega Weiss by far, still beat Sephiroth in AC.

Hang on, hang on, hang on. Did I just read this right? Whenever someone mentioned Cloud beating Sephiroth in AC you said he was going easy on him, toiyng around, playing, and now all of a sudden you say that between Sephiroth and Weiss there is no clear cut winner? Who are you and what have you done to the fanboy fascist?

Ganondorf in pure swordskill is at least an equal. Guy was a master swordsman since he was young, and has lived for hundreds or thousands of years since then. Link is pretty good himself, ESPECIALLY for his age, but in pure swordskill, he can't compare to Ganon or Seph. Ryu Hayabusa is also at least an equal. Many of the top tier SW characters in saber dueling like Mace Windu or Yoda are as well. Gray Fox and Raiden from MGS also come to mind. Raiden, even when he was human, could stop bullets, and beat a cybernetically enhanced dude with more weapons than he had with only a sword(love that boss fight).

Hang on, hang on, hang on. Did I just read this right? Whenever someone mentioned Cloud beating Sephiroth in AC you said he was going easy on him, toiyng around, playing, and now all of a sudden you say that between Sephiroth and Weiss there is no clear cut winner? Who are you and what have you done to the fanboy fascist?

The Advent Children reunion files, a book of interviews with AC's creators, says Sephiroth only lost because he was holding back against Cloud, and that Sephiroth is far stronger than Cloud. That isn't just something I say, its a fact from the compilation's creators.

Base Weiss and pre Nibelheim Sephiroth are very evenly matched though, because of this they would both go all out and it would be an amazingly close fight.

Add Sora too. Far more than Sephiroth could handle.

^Besides the fact that he can wield a keyblade what makes Sora a good swordsman? Sephiroth would rape Sora..

Sephiroth is atleast Loz speed, and his power can cut through structures with the swing of his sword without even making contact with the structure

Add Sora too. Far more than Sephiroth could handle.

Is that why Sephiroth is completely unharmed and unfased after their fight, and shrugs him off? Also, Sephiroth in KH is not the Sephiroth of the FF VII world.

Well duh.

He's even lamer in KH. Which is a godly feat.

Though I feel Lance Bass' voice suits the character very well.

Originally posted by Keollyn
Add Sora too. Far more than Sephiroth could handle.

Oh, how can I forget Vergil (DMC)

Murai as the Devil Incarnate and Spirit Doku can stalemate him.

Sephiroth should have the upper hand against Sora, but only ones who claim Sora'd get raped are undeniably, KH haters.YouTube videoSora is capable of beating Sephiroth. Fact. 😐

Cloud beat Sephiroth fair and square, really.

If Sephiroth is so retarded that he hasn't realized by now, after losing to Cloud a couple times, that he shouldn't play around, it's no excuse.

Cloud won because his enemy is an idiot. Thus, he won fairly.

Sephiroth lost because Square Enix wanted him to lose. super13

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
The Advent Children reunion files, a book of interviews with AC's creators, says Sephiroth only lost because he was holding back against Cloud, and that Sephiroth is far stronger than Cloud. That isn't just something I say, its a fact from the compilation's creators.

Base Weiss and pre Nibelheim Sephiroth are very evenly matched though, because of this they would both go all out and it would be an amazingly close fight.

You just said and I quote, "AC Sephiroth vs Omega Weiss is not a definite win for Sephiroth though."

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
I would too. I believe that Vader is in the top five most powerful, actually.

I also believe that if it came down to it, Vader could probably take down Sephiroth in a battle of materia vs. the force.

I don't think its just a "take down", vader would destroy sephiroth with the force.

If your up against him and can't use the force your screwed, the same goes for palpatine