Which swordsman can match or defeat Sephiroth?

Started by fascistcrusader7 pages

Omega Weiss is around AC Sephiroth's level, though they aren't even they are much closer in skill and strength than Cloud and AC Sephiroth. That means its fully possible Omega Weiss would defeat him, sthough the odds are still in Seph's favor.

Originally posted by Terryc250
^Besides the fact that he can wield a keyblade what makes Sora a good swordsman? Sephiroth would rape Sora..

Sephiroth is atleast Loz speed, and his power can cut through structures with the swing of his sword without even making contact with the structure

1. Gotta agree. Going by pure swordsmanship, Sora is not that impressive. This is not a typical "who beats who" thread.

2. None of that says he is a good swordsman.

Originally posted by Thiru
I don't think its just a "take down", vader would [b] destroy sephiroth with the force.

If your up against him and can't use the force your screwed, the same goes for palpatine [/B]

Most def. Sephiroth has no defense against a simple neck snap really..

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Link is pretty good himself, ESPECIALLY for his age, but in pure swordskill, he can't compare to Ganon or Seph.

Please, Link in pure swordplay is as good as Ganondorf both WW and TP. WW Link went through all of Ganon's Tower and battled Puppet Ganon before reaching Ganondorf and TP Link wasn't in tip top shape either when he clashed it out with Ganondorf.

Link would be a match for Sephiroth in pure swordplay.

Originally posted by shin_gear
Murai as the Devil Incarnate and Spirit Doku can stalemate him.

Sephiroth should have the upper hand against Sora, but only ones who claim Sora'd get raped are undeniably, KH haters.YouTube videoSora is capable of beating Sephiroth. Fact. 😐

How about you watch after that fight and see Sephiroth brush himself off as though nothing actually happened. Seems like Sephiroth didn't lose. Heck we see games in where you beat your opponent in the game just to get defeated in the CGI for example Dante vs Vergil.

You defeat Vergil in the game but during the next cutscene Vergil pwns Dante.

You defeat Vergil in the game but during the next cutscene Vergil pwns Dante.

Also in Crisis Core, at Nibelheim

Spoiler:
you beat Sephiroth in gameplay, only to be smacked down in the after fight cutscene.

How about you watch after the fight in KH1 where Sephiroth gets pwned and disappears as a result of getting defeated. Yeah...

And in KH2 he states he can't be eliminated by none other than Strife. In other words put anyone against him and he can't lose if it ain't Strife pal.

Originally posted by shin_gear
How about you watch after the fight in KH1 where Sephiroth gets pwned and disappears as a result of getting defeated. Yeah...

No he doesn't; he clashes blades with Cloud before the two vanish just like in KH2.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Please, Link in pure swordplay is as good as Ganondorf both WW and TP. WW Link went through all of Ganon's Tower and battled Puppet Ganon before reaching Ganondorf and TP Link wasn't in tip top shape either when he clashed it out with Ganondorf.

Link would be a match for Sephiroth in pure swordplay.

Lol no. In WW, you can almost never get hits in unless you use a parry, and you have Zelda's help as well. In TP, getting hits in is almost impossible, you have to do a specific attack to even hope to get thru his rock solid defense, but usually it's the swordlock that you get your hits in. Also, that Ganon had a big ass hole in his chest, and WW Ganon didn't even have the ToP. Ganon is always depicted as the better swordsman. Matter of fact...Ganon is just depicted as...BETTER than Link. In a realistic fight where good doesn't always win, Ganon would kill Link.

To Gear, KH is uncanon. 😬

By feats, Sora beats Sephiroth in swordsplay. Whole building cutting and laser blocking > what Sephiroth has done.

But Sepiiroth exploded planets 🙁

Originally posted by Keollyn
By feats, Sora beats Sephiroth in swordsplay. Whole building cutting and laser blocking > what Sephiroth has done.
Building cutting is not proof of swordsmanship. It is a feat of his power(actually, his keyblade's power). Blocking lasers is a showcase of swordsmanship however.

it is a feat of strength, though.

Oh wait keyblades don't edges so they don't actually cut super13

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Building cutting is not proof of swordsmanship. It is a feat of his power(actually, his keyblade's power). Blocking lasers is a showcase of swordsmanship however.

I know it isn't. But to fight Sephiroth on pure swordsmanship, you need to have strength. Otherwise, Kenshin could beat Sephiroth.

Sephiroth was born through experiments, and was a warrior right when he was born, he was a SOLDIER all his life, unlike the other guys who just decide to go to midgar when they are like 16 and become a SOLDIER.. Sephiroth was there his whole life, add that too his already superiority over regular humans and you get the greatest SOLDIER ever, Sephiroth.

Weiss was born in Deepground. From the beginning he was experimented on, and his entire life he trained and endured the harshest of conditions, having to fight just to be aloowed to live. He knew nothing but kill or be killed his entire life. Compared to those in Deepground Sephiroth had a posh and easy life.

Originally posted by Keollyn
I know it isn't. But to fight Sephiroth on pure swordsmanship, you need to have strength. Otherwise, Kenshin could beat Sephiroth.
That's not strength, it was the keyblade. The keyblade is a powerful magic weapon, without it, Sora would be nothing.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Weiss was born in Deepground. From the beginning he was experimented on, and his entire life he trained and endured the harshest of conditions, having to fight just to be aloowed to live. He knew nothing but kill or be killed his entire life. Compared to those in Deepground Sephiroth had a posh and easy life.

Thats wrong.. Weiss was once a first class soldier, during Crisis Core, you see Weiss and Nero take Genesis' body away in a helicopter they were in first class SOLDIER uniform, and both Weiss and Nero were injected with Genesis' cells, this takes places shortly after Cloud and Zack were being experimented on by Hojo.. at this point in time Weiss would not be a match for SOLDIER Sephiroth, because Sephiroth is stated the greatest SOLDIER at this point. Afterwards, Weiss gained his powers by being chained inside a mako reactor for along time.

Also, what makes Sora a good swordsman? Has he been training all his life? Or did he just pick up a keyblade and started using it? Cuz i dont see how Sora is "skilled"

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
That's not strength, it was the keyblade. The keyblade is a powerful magic weapon, without it, Sora would be nothing.

I have no idea what you're trying to point out here. Is Sora fighting Sephiroth without his keyblade?

Don't start acting silly please.

^ In pure swordsmanship, wut if Sephiroth lost all his powers, picked up a regular sword, same with Sora, you think Sora would beat Sephiroth?


Thats wrong.. Weiss was once a first class soldier, during Crisis Core, you see Weiss and Nero take Genesis' body away in a helicopter they were in first class SOLDIER uniform, and both Weiss and Nero were injected with Genesis' cells, this takes places shortly after Cloud and Zack were being experimented on by Hojo.. at this point in time Weiss would not be a match for SOLDIER Sephiroth, because Sephiroth is stated the greatest SOLDIER at this point. Afterwards, Weiss gained his powers by being chained inside a mako reactor for along time.

Once again, you're way off base about Weiss. He was not a regular SOLDIER, ever. He was born in Deepground, that was the first time they were ever let out, Nero says the mission must be really important for them to be let out. Also note that the crest on their belt is not the SOLDIER crest like Zack and the others have, rather it is the Deepground crest we see in Dirge of Cerberus. Weiss was born in Deepground and was experimented on as I described, it explained in DoC's online mode and the compilation Ultimania.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Omega Weiss is around AC Sephiroth's level

That's nothing more than your opinion.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Most def. Sephiroth has no defense against a simple neck snap really..

Come on, Sephiroth is not that weak. You are underestimating him.

Originally posted by Keollyn
I know it isn't. But to fight Sephiroth on pure swordsmanship, you need to have strength. Otherwise, Kenshin could beat Sephiroth.

Kenshin is not THAT skilled. He rely too much in his speed. Speed =/= skill.