Which swordsman can match or defeat Sephiroth?

Started by shin_gear7 pages

Originally posted by ESB -1138
No he doesn't; he clashes blades with Cloud before the two vanish just like in KH2.
I meant right after the fight. He limps and then disappears (in the same fashion Xehanort's Heartless did.)

Now we see in KH2 that this is not the case. Sephiroth is clearly unharmed after that little match though...what did Sephiroth manage to do to Sora? tongue

One thing is no one knows what occurred in the fight. In fact most likely they weren't able to land a hit on each other (as implied how neither of the two have a single scratch on them) had Sephiroth been hit by the Keyblade he would've became WTFpwned 😬. Heartless like him have no chance whatsoever against the mystical power of the Keyblade. In the first KH it's clearly obvious he was hit several or many times by Sora's weapon and look what happened to him as a result.

At first I didn't even realize this did not involve KH Sephiroth. This topic involves FFVII Sephiroth only. Now, I was saying earlier it is possible for Sora to defeat him (in Sora's most powerful form) keep in mind I did not say he would have the upper hand.

Almost any strong Jedi or Sith could kill Seph, easily.

Yeah backflips ftw.

Well, in a swordfight maybe not all, but I was saying overall.

Anyway, a good swordsman to match Seph...Ryu Hayabusa is a good one(still lovin the game). Yo Gear, how good of a swordsman is Doku? Love the scene where he slaps the shit out of Rachel and knocks her out,that shit was funny.

That's nothing more than your opinion.

My substantiated opinion that the evidence supports. Omega Weiss is powered by the ultimate WEAPON, he is empowered by the whole of the lifestream. That certainly puts him around AC Sephiroth's level.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Lol no. In WW, you can almost never get hits in unless you use a parry, and you have Zelda's help as well. In TP, getting hits in is almost impossible, you have to do a specific attack to even hope to get thru his rock solid defense, but usually it's the swordlock that you get your hits in. Also, that Ganon had a big ass hole in his chest, and WW Ganon didn't even have the ToP. Ganon is always depicted as the better swordsman. Matter of fact...Ganon is just depicted as...BETTER than Link. In a realistic fight where good doesn't always win, Ganon would kill Link.

And yet here's the thing; TP Link got through his defenses indicating that Link is skilled enough to break through a powerful defense such as Ganondorf's and land massive blows. TP Link was trained (for who knows how many years) by both a swordsmaster and the Golden Wolf who taught him the lost arts. TP Link is clearly a supreme swordsman that can stand to the likes of Ganondorf.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Well, in a swordfight maybe not all, but I was saying overall.

Anyway, a good swordsman to match Seph...Ryu Hayabusa is a good one(still lovin the game). Yo Gear, how good of a swordsman is Doku? Love the scene where he slaps the shit out of Rachel and knocks her out,that shit was funny.

Haha.

Doku is probably a better swordsman than Ryu...well, it all depends on the weapon being used really...the Kitetsu gives the user some...interesting abilities...but Doku's spiritual form of the Kitetsu (which you will see in Chapter 14) is about as long as Sephiroth's Masamune. In fact it could be it's equal. 313

Originally posted by ESB -1138
And yet here's the thing; TP Link got through his defenses indicating that Link is skilled enough to break through a powerful defense such as Ganondorf's and land massive blows. TP Link was trained (for who knows how many years) by both a swordsmaster and the Golden Wolf who taught him the lost arts. TP Link is clearly a supreme swordsman that can stand to the likes of Ganondorf.
He had only two ways to hit Ganon(besides the stupid fishing pole thing), do one of those rolling maneuver thingys, or lock swords with him. And Ganon went thru more before that battle with Link using only swords in TP. I know that TP Link is the most skilled Link with swords, but still not as much as Ganon. Ganon, without the ToP, in WW was skilled enough to doge all light arrows and sword strikes by Link(even parries) when he got serious.

To Gear: Yes, Doku is perty badass. IMO, he was a much harder boss than easy ass Alma.

lol...Alma was a b*Tch to me..and the reason..

Well, I haven't upgraded my Dragon Sword at all, therefore I couldn't perform Flying Swallow...you probably remembered to upgrade it though.

2 words
meta
knight
iow, this guy

From videogames?

Hell, I don't know. Maybe Ryu from Ninja Gaiden (I think that's his name anyways)

Honestly I think with materia Sephiroth would curbstomp any force user.

Just count every single materia available and begin to come up with combinations. It can be quite nasty.

You'd be surprised.

In the EU people have done some crazy sh*t with the force.

Create/manipulate blackholes, blow up suns, rip holes in time, etc.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Honestly I think with materia Sephiroth would curbstomp any force user.

Just count every single materia available and begin to come up with combinations. It [b]can be quite nasty. [/B]

Sidious with Force Storm could incinerate the surface of the planet, it opens a wormhole, and he destroyed a fleet of ships like that. Nihilus with his uber TK could just rip Seph's arms off and throw him into orbit. Luke makes stars go supernova. Pwnt.

To Gear: Yes I did, I kept on using it til I got the Dabihlaro, and then still used it after that. Now I have the TDS. 🙂

Last Attack + Revive

Knights of the Round + HP Drain

Bahamut Zero + Quadra Magic

Manipulate, Deathblow

Matter Manipulation via the materia that turns enemies into frogs and mini versions of themselves

Time materia which can actually haste Sephiroth, slow opponents or even stop time.

Barrier, magic Barrier, Reflect, Wall.

Plus shitloads more materia.

Curbstomp might be an exageration on my part, but the force user will have to go all out to defeat Sephiroth with materia.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Last Attack + Revive

Knights of the Round + HP Drain

Bahamut Zero + Quadra Magic

Manipulate, Deathblow

Matter Manipulation via the materia that turns enemies into frogs and mini versions of themselves

Time materia which can actually haste Sephiroth, slow opponents or even stop time.

Barrier, magic Barrier, Reflect, Wall.

Plus shitloads more materia.

Curbstomp might be an exageration on my part, but the force user will have to go all out to defeat Sephiroth with materia.

Sidious and Luke can go at speeds nearing light. 🙂

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Sidious and Luke can go at speeds nearing light. 🙂

Cool.

I want to see Frogs duking it out at light speed.

By the way the EU is ridiculous.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Cool.

I want to see Frogs duking it out at light speed.

By the way the EU is ridiculous.

Also canon if it doesn't contradict storyline of movies.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Also canon if it doesn't contradict storyline of movies.

I know EU is canon, give me more credit V2D. I've not been gone for long. *Furious now*

Never the less it is still ridiculous.

EU is indeed ridiculous.

And as for that revive+ last attack thing.. how the fvck does that work? How do you revive oneself if you're already dead?