Originally posted by Kutulu
The illusion was generated by the guy in the machine wearing the oddball helmet that you see in the panel: he was projecting into Hulk's mind that Juggernaut was really Hulk's father. When Hulk broke out of the illusion he punched Juggernaut so hard it knocked the wind out of him, whether Juggernaut has to breath or not he still holds air in his lungs so that he can talk and such.
Originally posted by Kutulu😂
YO pass that shit over here, I want some of what you're smokin'. durpotCytorrak is not a god, for the last godamn time, he is considered for all intensive purposes to be a demon / shard realm ruler. You're just trolling right now, you don't even know much about the character you are trying to defend.
You know nothing. Juggs feels no pain. Your f*cking stupid. 😂
Originally posted by B.ALook listen up and listen good. these two characters met in WW Hulk and WW Hulk looked much better. He went through two shitty x-teams cain once and then when he needed to get rid of Juggs he got rid of Juggs. Simple WW Hulk wins here.
When it comes to people like you and how stupid you act then its the only thing you can do because you refuse to listen. You fail.
Originally posted by quanchi112In BFR yes, but he isn't arguing that. Listen and learn for once.
Look listen up and listen good. these two characters met in WW Hulk and WW Hulk looked much better. He went through two shitty x-teams cain once and then when he needed to get rid of Juggs he got rid of Juggs. Simple WW Hulk wins here.
First off, in WWH Juggernaut was NOT stopped. Redirecting =/= stop.
As for Juggernaut being "winded", that is not what happened.
Lets break it down to the panels in which Juggernaut was shown:
Panel 1:
Juggernaut gets hit in the stomach. This does not cause damage, but due to every action has an reaction the air in Cains stomach is forced out of his lungs.
Cain can survive without oxygen, that doesn't mean he doesn't breathe. He is the human Juggernaut, so it comes naturally. Plus he would need to draw in air to talk.
Cain also doesn't need any type of liquid for nourishment, but that isn't going to stop him from going to a bar.
Panel 2:
Hulk is screaming "Get out of my head!". Cain is starting to get up off the ground. His other is not shown.
In between panels:
This is Hulk basically fighting his inner demons.
Final Panel:
Juggernaut, Red Skull, the guy doing the mind thing, and some random guy look on with a "OH NOES" face as Hulk causes the psychic backlash wave.
Originally posted by Kutulu
SO praytell, what is inside of his chest? A vacuum? Peanut butter? Since he has no "wind to knock out", I'm curious what he does with that huge empty cavity that resides under his rib cage.
You fail, allow me to explain if you will.
Juggernaut doesn't need to breath, Period, end of story. The fact that he had the wind knocked out of him, when he doesn't need to breath is PIS because in order to have the wind knocked out of him; he would have to be gasping for air.
So ask yourself, why would someone who doesn't need to breath, gasp for air?
As for whats in his chest, probably lungs, a heart, his rib cage maybe, still doesn't change the fact he doesn't need to breath. The man fought as a skeleton, WITH NO LUNGS ONLY BONES for crying out loud.
Stop with this non-sense, People will always cling to one or two bad showings from Juggernaut that are full of PIS, but lets ignore all the times Hulk has been KO'ed then say he is impossible to KO.
I thought we went by average showings on this forum?
ON average, Hulk gets mad a a steady pace, he doesn't jump straight to stupid the second somebody punches him.
ON average, Juggernaut is invincible, and pretty much does what he wants.
Interesting.
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
You're an idiot.A cars wheels redirect the car. It was not stopped. The writer himself said Juggernaut was NOT stopped.
The writer stated that his forward momentum was stopped.
You are trying to overlap one statement over what happened, which causes your argument to fail on grounds of logic.
Let me try to explain: When Juggernaut's forward momentum (note that I didn't just say momentum) was forced downward, Juggernaut was still exerting as much pressure as he was before on moving forward, except now it was facing downwards towards the ground. In terms of forward movement he was no longer moving forward. Therefore it can be said that his forward momentum was stopped, since he was no longer moving forward, but now putting pressure onto the ground.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
You fail, allow me to explain if you will.The fact that he had the wind knocked out of him, when he doesn't need to breath is PIS because in order to have the wind knocked out of him; he would have to be gasping for air.
Hahah, once again the Hulk haters put all of his feats as PIS. 😆
You see what you see on-panel and simply chose to disbelieve the writer. So in effect you are ignoring evidence that's on-panel and make up a story in your head about what really happens.
See the problem with that is that you make up one explanation, and someone else picks another feat and says PIS and makes up their own explanation, and pretty soon everybody is ignoring on-panel evidence. That's why the Hulk haters on this forum strike me as funny, because one of their favorite characters could do the same thing and they look at it as a mighty feat to show how strong their character is.
I hate to break it to you, but on-panel evidence > any excuse you can make up for what happened in your mind when you read the story.
Originally posted by Kutulu
The writer stated that his forward momentum was stopped.You are trying to overlap one statement over what happened, which causes your argument to fail on grounds of logic.
Let me try to explain: When Juggernaut's forward momentum (note that I didn't just say momentum) was forced downward, Juggernaut was still exerting as much pressure as he was before on moving forward, except now it was facing downwards towards the ground. In terms of forward movement he was no longer moving forward. Therefore it can be said that his forward momentum was stopped, since he was no longer moving forward, but now putting pressure onto the ground.
Your argument failed when you said, "The writer stated that his forward momentum was stopped.", which isn't true. He was still moving forward, just at a different angle putting pressure on the mansions foundation, because he was still pushing Hulk back.