Classic Juggernaut v.s. WWH

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
You're an idiot.

A cars wheels redirect the car. It was not stopped. The writer himself said Juggernaut was NOT stopped.

Once again, the writer said that the Hulk's forward momentum was stopped. I never said otherwise. You are trying to place words in my mouth for something I never said. Your car analogy is wrong because the proper laws of kinetics and physics cannot be explained with that model.

Let me put it in a way even a retard like you can understand: Juggernaut was still exerting pressure downward, and was not moving forward. Is that too complex for you, or do I need to dumb it down even further?

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Theres no wind to knock out,and he wasnt beating juggs and he wont ever do it without outside assistace.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Your argument failed when you said, "The writer stated that his forward momentum was stopped.", which isn't true. He was still moving forward, just at a different angle, because he was still pushing Hulk back.

They were both standing there in the same spot, Hulk not moving, Juggernaut not moving. Juggernaut was exerting momentum that was being directed downwards. The writer backed this up. You fail.

Originally posted by Kutulu
The writer stated that his forward momentum was stopped.

You are trying to overlap one statement over what happened, which causes your argument to fail on grounds of logic.

Let me try to explain: When Juggernaut's forward momentum (note that I didn't just say momentum) was forced downward, Juggernaut was still exerting as much pressure as he was before on moving forward, except now it was facing downwards towards the ground. In terms of forward movement he was no longer moving forward. Therefore it can be said that his forward momentum was stopped, since he was no longer moving forward, but now putting pressure onto the ground.

And after Juggernaut regained himself, Hulk started to slide back.

Therefore, Hulk momentarily redirected it.

But lets put a spin on it, Lets say Hulk DID in fact stop Juggernaut right, OK I'll play along.

What happened after the initial stop? I'll tell you, in a direct Contest of strength, Juggernaut started to push Hulk back, interesting right?

You see, in order for Juggernaut to be unstoppable, he would have to be in motion right?

Therefore we can conclude that in a direct contest of strength, Juggernaut pushed Hulk back, interesting?

You can retract you argument now...

Originally posted by Kutulu
Once again, the writer said that the Hulk's forward momentum was stopped. I never said otherwise. You are trying to place words in my mouth for something I never said. Your car analogy is wrong because the proper laws of kinetics and physics cannot be explained with that model.

Let me put it in a way even a retard like you can understand: Juggernaut was still exerting pressure downward, and was not moving forward. Is that too complex for you, or do I need to dumb it down even further?

Kettle, Pot, black. 😂

Originally posted by B.A
In BFR yes, but he isn't arguing that. Listen and learn for once.

Did people read the same WWH: X-Men #3 as I did? 🤨

Juggs was kicking the shit out of Hulk, or at least winning on points. 😐

Originally posted by B.A
Retard.

Kettle, Pot, black. 😂

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Your argument failed when you said, "The writer stated that his forward momentum was stopped.", which isn't true. He was still moving forward, just at a different angle putting pressure on the mansions foundation, because he was still pushing Hulk back.

Listen since my layman's terms explanation was too complex for someone as obtuse as yourself to understand, let me break it down in 8th grade math terms (you did pass 8th grade, I hope?)

When the momentum of an object passes the 90 degree mark underneath of that object (referred to as "pitch"😉, then the object's momentum is no longer moving forward.

Originally posted by Bransolute
Did people read the same WWH: X-Men #3 as I did? 🤨

Juggs was kicking the shit out of Hulk. 😐

Originally posted by Kutulu
Hahah, once again the Hulk haters put all of his feats as PIS. 😆

You see what you see on-panel and simply chose to disbelieve the writer. So in effect you are ignoring evidence that's on-panel and make up a story in your head about what really happens.

See the problem with that is that you make up one explanation, and someone else picks another feat and says PIS and makes up their own explanation, and pretty soon everybody is ignoring on-panel evidence. That's why the Hulk haters on this forum strike me as funny, because one of their favorite characters could do the same thing and they look at it as a mighty feat to show how strong their character is.

I hate to break it to you, but on-panel evidence > any excuse you can make up for what happened in your mind when you read the story.

Thats fine, do you wish me to tell you all the times Hulk has been KO'ed in the past?

Originally posted by Apolloknight
And after Juggernaut regained himself, Hulk started to slide back.

Therefore, Hulk momentarily redirected it.

But lets put a spin on it, Lets say Hulk DID in fact stop Juggernaut right, OK I'll play along.

What happened after the initial stop? I'll tell you, in a direct Contest of strength, Juggernaut started to push Hulk back, interesting right?

You see, in order for Juggernaut to be unstoppable, he would have to be in motion right?

Therefore we can conclude that in a direct contest of strength, Juggernaut pushed Hulk back, interesting?

You can retract you argument now...

Originally posted by Bransolute
Did people read the same WWH: X-Men #3 as I did? 🤨

Juggs was kicking the shit out of Hulk, or at least winning on points. 😐

(Shhhh, some people only read certain parts)

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are being sarcastic right?

I really don't see how people give Hulk the win in that fight.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Thats fine, do you wish me to tell you all the times Hulk has been KO'ed in the past?

Originally posted by Apolloknight
And after Juggernaut regained himself, Hulk started to slide back.

Therefore, Hulk momentarily redirected it.

But lets put a spin on it, Lets say Hulk DID in fact stop Juggernaut right, OK I'll play along.

What happened after the initial stop? I'll tell you, in a direct Contest of strength, Juggernaut started to push Hulk back, interesting right?

You see, in order for Juggernaut to be unstoppable, he would have to be in motion right?

Therefore we can conclude that in a direct contest of strength, Juggernaut pushed Hulk back, interesting?

You can retract you argument now...

You are putting words into my mouth. Let me break it down for you in the most basic way that even a retard such as yourself can understand.

FORWARD MOMENTUM. EXERTING ENERGY MOVING FORWARD.

DOWNWARD MOMENTUM. EXERTING ENERGY MOVING DOWNWARD.

STOP. NOT MOVING ANYWHERE.

Now can you see the difference between those three terms or is that still too complex for you?

Originally posted by Kutulu
They were both standing there in the same spot, Hulk not moving, Juggernaut not moving. Juggernaut was exerting momentum that was being directed downwards. The writer backed this up. You fail.

They grappled at a stand still after trading blows, the Juggernaut started to push the Hulk backward.

For Hulk to push Juggernaut directly down, stopping his forward momentum as you say, he would literally have to be pushing straight down on him, in which he wasn't. He too, was applying force at an angle.

So Juggernaut was still moving forward, and pushing Hulk back.

The writer never backed that up, so you fail.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Listen since my layman's terms explanation was too complex for someone as obtuse as yourself to understand, let me break it down in 8th grade math terms (you did pass 8th grade, I hope?)

When the momentum of an object passes the 90 degree mark underneath of that object (referred to as "pitch"😉, then the object's momentum is no longer moving forward.

See this is where your argument fails. Nowhere did the writer or even the art say Hulk was pushing Juggernaut down at a 90 degree angle. Nice try. Apparently you didn't finish school.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Quit with the insults it is really getting old. Respect your fellow posters. He hasnt insulted you so why call him a retard when he is correct to boot.

Originally posted by quanchi112
😐

Its so hard to argue against what happened on panel in Hulks own book I know.

Originally posted by Kutulu
You are putting words into my mouth. Let me break it down for you in the most basic way that even a retard such as yourself can understand.

[b]FORWARD MOMENTUM. EXERTING ENERGY MOVING FORWARD.

DOWNWARD MOMENTUM. EXERTING ENERGY MOVING DOWNWARD.

STOP. NOT MOVING ANYWHERE.

Now can you see the difference between those three terms or is that still too complex for you? [/B]

So we agree, Hulk didnt stop Juggernaut, all is well then.