Classic Juggernaut v.s. WWH

Started by severance17 pages

Originally posted by Kutulu
I don't know how I got caught up into arguing about the movement thing. Like I said, the writer left it ambiguous on purpose. So we could literally sit here all day and discuss it. I have seen good arguments on both sides of the coin, and it's been discussed ad nauseum over at CBR for 29 pages, not to mention other hero forums as well. You literally can take it that the several inches showing could mean that either they are from the Hulk pushing Juggernaut who is standing in place in order to project his momentum downwards, or equally judge that it's Juggernaut moving Hulk back a couple inches.

Given that both sides can be argued with as much plausibility, I will just say that we agree to disagree on this point of contention, and I will give credit that you replied with the most intelligent response of this thread on the subject.

can we just say that even if Juggs did win this pushing contest that does not give him the victory in a fight. What it is showing is that Hulk can achieve almost the impossible in virtually stopping juggs in his tracks

Originally posted by severance
can we just say that even if Juggs did win this pushing contest that does not give him the victory in a fight. What it is showing is that Hulk can achieve [b]almost the impossible in virtually stopping juggs in his tracks [/B]

I agree. 🙂

Originally posted by Apolloknight
I agree. 🙂

Sounds good to me too 🙂

Originally posted by severance
can we just say that even if Juggs did win this pushing contest that does not give him the victory in a fight. What it is showing is that Hulk can achieve almost the impossible in virtually stopping juggs in his tracks
Wow a statement everyone can live with.

😉

Originally posted by quanchi112
Wow a statement everyone can live with.

😉


The same can be said for a Juggernaut that can overpower, and push back a Celestial-Powered-Hulk.

Originally posted by Horrificus
The same can be said for a Juggernaut that can overpower, and push back a Celestial-Powered-Hulk.
I just know WW Hulk is much more of a threat that Juggernaut can be. 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
I just know WW Hulk is much more of a threat that Juggernaut can be. 🙂

I don't know. I think Juggernaut under the right circumstances, or insane, or enraged the MU would have a serious problem on it's hands.

Originally posted by Horrificus
I don't know. I think Juggernaut under the right circumstances, or insane, or enraged the MU would have a serious problem on it's hands.
I highly doubt it. The hulk took him on physically and was doing fine. Juggernaut has nothing on WW Hulk imo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I highly doubt it. The hulk took him on physically and was doing fine. Juggernaut has nothing on WW Hulk imo.

You missed my point.
Juggernaut has only ever really been focused in a battle a couple times.
Usually, he has no focus, nothing really at stake, and is just fighting to fight.
He also isn't scared of much, and doesn't seem to be too connected to anybody.
If all of these things ever changed, a crazy, enraged or focused Juggernaut would be more dangerous than the character he is now.
Imagine Hulk, but without the temper problem, craziness or chip on his shoulder.
Get rid of the reasons that Hulk keeps going bonkers, and he is just a big strong guy that CAN be dangerous sometimes.

Originally posted by severance
can we just say that even if Juggs did win this pushing contest that does not give him the victory in a fight. What it is showing is that Hulk can achieve almost the impossible in virtually stopping juggs in his tracks
Yea I will give Hulk credit. He actually slowed Juggy down compared to the time Juggernaut was pushing him all over Egypt in Hulk #457. Well until Hulk tapped into his plot-device that is.

But on the other hand after WWHulk pushed Juggernaut into the lake I thought it was kind of odd Hulk wanted to be long gone before Juggernaut comes back.

Originally posted by Horrificus
You missed my point.
Juggernaut has only ever really been focused in a battle a couple times.
Usually, he has no focus, nothing really at stake, and is just fighting to fight.
He also isn't scared of much, and doesn't seem to be too connected to anybody.
If all of these things ever changed, a crazy, enraged or focused Juggernaut would be more dangerous than the character he is now.
Imagine Hulk, but without the temper problem, craziness or chip on his shoulder.
Get rid of the reasons that Hulk keeps going bonkers, and he is just a big strong guy that CAN be dangerous sometimes.
Juggernaut couldnt cause the havoc that WW Hulk caused. Really no one proved to get the best of WW Hulk and he fought against a lot of people.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Yea I will give Hulk credit. He actually slowed Juggy down compared to the time Juggernaut was pushing him all over Egypt in Hulk #457. Well until Hulk tapped into his plot-device that is.

But on the other hand after WWHulk pushed Juggernaut into the lake I thought it was kind of odd Hulk wanted to be long gone before Juggernaut comes back.

WW Hulk only came there for Prof. X he didnt want to waste time wrestling with that dumbass Juggernaut.

Originally posted by quanchi112
WW Hulk only came there for Prof. X he didnt want to waste time wrestling with that dumbass Juggernaut.
Hulk didn't want to be around when Juggy came back. That's real son.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Juggernaut couldnt cause the havoc that WW Hulk caused. Really no one proved to get the best of WW Hulk and he fought against a lot of people.
I would say Juggy put in a nice performance against WWHulk. Actually I would say Juggy had the edge.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Hulk didn't want to be around when Juggy came back. That's real son. I would say Juggy put in a nice performance against WWHulk. Actually I would say Juggy had the edge.
Juggs didnt have shit on him. Hulk bfr'ed his stupid ass. Hulk wasnt after him and wasnt afraid of shit. If he was after Juggs then he would have came with him.

Hulk BFR'd his @ss because Xavier distracted Juggy allowing Hulk to push him. Did you read the comic? Did you see Juggy stomp Hulks head into the dirt? Did you see Juggy headbutt him in the gut? Making blood spew out of his mouth!

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Hulk BFR'd his @ss because Xavier distracted Juggy allowing Hulk to push him. Did you read the comic? Did you see Juggy stomp Hulks head into the dirt? Did you see Juggy headbutt him in the gut? Making blood spew out of his mouth!
Hulk was fine with everything that Juggernaut did to him.

Juggernaut is an idiot to turn his head. Thats not Hulks fault now is it? 😆

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk was fine with everything that Juggernaut did to him.

Juggernaut is an idiot to turn his head. Thats not Hulks fault now is it? 😆

No, it's not Hulks fault. But the fact is it still happened!

And yea Hulk wasn't hurt too bad(neither was Juggy) but it's clear he was getting handled.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
No, it's not Hulks fault. But the fact is it still happened!

And yea Hulk wasn't hurt too bad(neither was Juggy) but it's clear he was getting handled.

cosigned

Originally posted by quanchi112
Juggs didnt have shit on him. Hulk bfr'ed his stupid ass. Hulk wasnt after him and wasnt afraid of shit. If he was after Juggs then he would have came with him.

And the Hulk still wouldn't be able to do anything.

Originally posted by llagrok
And the Hulk still wouldn't be able to do anything.

Fool!

He's the strongest one there is.