ROTJ Luke vs TPM Maul

Started by GahLakTus11 pages

Oh right luke can force choke maul when mauls a superior force user as of that time.

Originally posted by GahLakTus
Oh right luke can force choke maul when mauls a superior force user as of that time.

What has Maul done with the Force besides throw a piece of debris at a door switch?

Anticipated all the attacks from a jedi master trained by Dooku?
As a side show blocking Obi wans attack as well at the same time.

which is why in that duel he was BACKING UP THE WHOLE TIME.

I'm afraid it seems you have no logical thinking skills. You realize he was in control of the fight the whole time, and the reason he was "backing up" was to continue to keep the footing in his favor by getting an ataru user in a tight space. You might want to learn the facts before making assertions.

and killing qui-gon in tpm is no point of credit to maul, because qui was past his prime, thats like beating ben vs beating rots obi wan

Yeah, Qui Gon was so past his prime that he was considered one of the best Jedi in the order.🙄

WHile we're on the subject though, there is no such thing as a Jedi that is too old to be a good fighter. Dooku, the old guy in his 80's, could kick the crap out of 95% of the Jedi order.

Originally posted by Se7in
What has Maul done with the Force besides throw a piece of debris at a door switch?
Didn't he choke a few people in the comics and didn't he choke darth vaders troopers? He obviously as a dark sider should have at the least offensive abilities with the force.

Originally posted by GahLakTus
Didn't he choke a few people in the comics and didn't he choke darth vaders troopers? He obviously as a dark sider should have at the least offensive abilities with the force.

Yes, he did choke a few people.

For those who are saying Maul is weak in the Force, remember that he was Sidiouses apprentice, Sidious wouldn't pick someone who is weak in the Force, just the opposite, he only wants the best. He wouldn't pick someone weak, to carry the title of a Sith Lord.

Originally posted by Man of Christ
ooo droids, so convincing, im sure some padawans survived the battle at geonosis, and luke was holding back against vader too because he was trying to convert him back to the light, not kill him. but luke could very easily force choke maul, or djem so his blade in half then kill him. we see how maul needed to separate qui-gon and obi wan, because he was gettin his but kicked, which is why in that duel he was BACKING UP THE WHOLE TIME. and killing qui-gon in tpm is no point of credit to maul, because qui was past his prime, thats like beating ben vs beating rots obi wan

Um when there are many they can be dangerous see as jedi in the clone wars died to them, and kenobi and qui gon could not defeat 2 droidekas (SP) OMG! force choke! Like force choke is an uber move that can kill Maul, And as it was said backing up has nothing to do with it because he was backing up into an area that was worse for ataru. And Maul WAS injured during the duel and Qui-gon was said to be one of the most able duelists in the order. Did you even read my posts from the previous pages? You still have not been able to tell me what makes Luke more powerful than Mual at this point. And Luke was going all out when he injured Vader by using the darkside which as I have said previously will not happen against Maul because he does not use Dun Moch,.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
WHile we're on the subject though, there is no such thing as a Jedi that is too old to be a good fighter. Dooku, the old guy in his 80's, could kick the crap out of 95% of the Jedi order.

And Sidious was like in his 60s and Yoda had to be around the mid 800s by then which is past his prime(physical) too.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
Yes, he did choke a few people.

For those who are saying Maul is weak in the Force, remember that he was Sidiouses apprentice, Sidious wouldn't pick someone who is weak in the Force, just the opposite, he only wants the best. He wouldn't pick someone weak, to carry the title of a Sith Lord.

Sidious chose Maul to make him a master swordsman, not a powerful Force user. He simply fit perfectly with his future plans, Sidious knew he would be the ultimate weapon.
Although I agree with you. Sidious would never choose a weak Force user as an apprentice.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
which is why in that duel he was BACKING UP THE WHOLE TIME.

I'm afraid it seems you have no logical thinking skills. You realize he was in control of the fight the whole time, and the reason he was "backing up" was to continue to keep the footing in his favor by getting an ataru user in a tight space. You might want to learn the facts before making assertions.

and killing qui-gon in tpm is no point of credit to maul, because qui was past his prime, thats like beating ben vs beating rots obi wan

Yeah, Qui Gon was so past his prime that he was considered one of the best Jedi in the order.🙄

WHile we're on the subject though, there is no such thing as a Jedi that is too old to be a good fighter. Dooku, the old guy in his 80's, could kick the crap out of 95% of the Jedi order.

your first paragraph is crap because he wouldnt have known about that tight space, its not like siddious gave him a map of that building and said "when you duel them, lure them to this room" he backed up cuz he was getting his a$$ kicked.

your last 2 paragraphs are illogical because there is a such thing as being too old to be a good fighter and going past your prime, (you honestly think that a ANH obi wan could match a ROTS obi wan?)
Dooku, the old guy in his 80's, could kick the crap out of 95% of the Jedi order, but got shat on by a younger more spry jedi who hadnt even achieved masterhood.

First off, maybe Sidious did not give him a map, but Maul knew (as you should) that Ataru users have disadvantages in tight spaces.
Secondly, your logic is extremely faulty:
"He is a master so he wins" , "he is a padawan so he will never defeat a master" , "he is a knight so he won't beat a master"...
Anakin, even as a Jedi Knight, is considered one of the most powerful and talented Jedi ever, one of the very bests of his era. You make it sound like Dooku got owned by an average Jedi Knight.

he got lucky finding that tight space. if he didnt accidently find it as a result of his getting pwned he wouldve died. say he backed up the other way and was out in the city, thier ataro usin selves wouldve slaughtered him. but o well. he did end up getting killed.

Right, was getting so owned that he managed to back off Kenobi, kill Qui-Gon, and waste a big opportunity to kill Kenobi. Yeah, they had the edge at all times.

they did,. he was lucky enough to back up in the direction leading to a closed space.

your first paragraph is crap because he wouldnt have known about that tight space, its not like siddious gave him a map of that building and said "when you duel them, lure them to this room" he backed up cuz he was getting his a$$ kicked.

No, I'm afraid this assessment is 100% false. If you'd notice, Maul was doing fine that whole fight, while qui gon and obi wan were clearly starining and having to give their all. Maul was in control and was luring them, guiding the jedi where he wanted them to be.

your last 2 paragraphs are illogical because there is a such thing as being too old to be a good fighter and going past your prime, (you honestly think that a ANH obi wan could match a ROTS obi wan?)
Dooku, the old guy in his 80's, could kick the crap out of 95% of the Jedi order, but got shat on by a younger more spry jedi who hadnt even achieved masterhood.

Seems to me you're the on posting the illogical paragraph. ANH Obi Wan suffered from a lack of special effects and choreography, if they re did ANH PT style you know he'd be just as nimble as his RotS self. And Dooku was only stopped by the chosen one himself. Anakin wasn't just some random jedi knight, he had the potential to surpass Yoda and Mace Windu by a long shot. Dooku while in his 80's defeated a jedi master councilman without too much difficulty anyway, making that sad argument void.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
your first paragraph is crap because he wouldnt have known about that tight space, its not like siddious gave him a map of that building and said "when you duel them, lure them to this room" he backed up cuz he was getting his a$$ kicked.

No, I'm afraid this assessment is 100% false. If you'd notice, Maul was doing fine that whole fight, while qui gon and obi wan were clearly starining and having to give their all. Maul was in control and was luring them, guiding the jedi where he wanted them to be.

your last 2 paragraphs are illogical because there is a such thing as being too old to be a good fighter and going past your prime, (you honestly think that a ANH obi wan could match a ROTS obi wan?)
Dooku, the old guy in his 80's, could kick the crap out of 95% of the Jedi order, but got shat on by a younger more spry jedi who hadnt even achieved masterhood.

Seems to me you're the on posting the illogical paragraph. ANH Obi Wan suffered from a lack of special effects and choreography, if they re did ANH PT style you know he'd be just as nimble as his RotS self. And Dooku was only stopped by the chosen one himself. Anakin wasn't just some random jedi knight, he had the potential to surpass Yoda and Mace Windu by a long shot. Dooku while in his 80's defeated a jedi master councilman without too much difficulty anyway, making that sad argument void.

youre right they were giving him thier all which is why they pwned him backwards the whole time and why he was backed into a corner.

there is no way he is as nimble as his rots self, if you saw he could barely keep up with an ultra slow vader, and hello, HE"S OLD and human!!! you say anakin had the potential to surpass yoda but none of that matters cuz he never did surpass yoda.

Originally posted by Man of Christ
youre right they were giving him thier all which is why they pwned him backwards the whole time and why he was backed into a corner.

The TPM novel disagrees with your interpretation of the battle and it is canon, your opinion is not.


The three combatants fought their way across the hangar floor, lightsabers flashing, bringing to bear every skill they had acquired over the years. The Jedi Knights tried continually to press the attack, and indeed, the Sith Lord was moving away from the Naboo and the starfighters and back toward the hangar's far wall. But Qui-Gon recognized that while it might seem as if the Jedi were driving him before them, it was the Sith Lord who was controlling the struggle. Wheeling and spinning, leaping and somersaulting with astonishing ease, their enemy was taking them with him, drawing them on to a place of his own choosing. His agility and dexterity allowed him to keep them both at bay, constantly attacking while at the same time effectively blunting their counterattacks, relentlessly searching for an opening in their defense.

Originally posted by Darth Hord
The TPM novel disagrees with your interpretation of the battle and it is canon, your opinion is not.

relentlessly searching for an opening in their defense which didnt mater cause he died anyway.

relentlessly searching for an opening in their defense which didnt mater cause he died anyway.

Which doesn't change the fact that he was controlling the fight the whole time, not getting "pwned" or driven back.

Originally posted by Man of Christ
relentlessly searching for an opening in their defense which didnt mater cause he died anyway.

Yet it still proves your theory of Maul being force into a corner wrong. And that Maul was in control until he died. And he DID find an opening obviously since he killed Qui-gon and had out dueled kenobi until Kenobi made the move that surprised Maul. You really need tell me what makes Luke more powerful than Maul,nor have you replied to my posts of Maul experience from the previous page such as Anoon Bondara who's lightsaber skill was described assecond to none could not kill Maul. So please tell Me how Luke>Maul.