Originally posted by Creshosk
A characer which theoretically doesn't exist. The retcon made it so that the characters actions were like an illusion. It didn't really happen that way. 🙂LT now is fully backed by TOAA. To say that MM wins is to use the pre-mm retcon LT, which is ignoring the fact that its current LT is the one in the fight and not pre mm retcon lt.
That is what I been saying for like years since I been on KMC.
Originally posted by Creshosk
A characer which theoretically doesn't exist. The retcon made it so that the characters actions were like an illusion. It didn't really happen that way. 🙂LT now is fully backed by TOAA. To say that MM wins is to use the pre-mm retcon LT, which is ignoring the fact that its current LT is the one in the fight and not pre mm retcon lt.
Classic MM wins in a curbstomp.
Originally posted by quanchi112
But no one have proven that the Lt is more powerful today than he was when the story came out.
I already did. He is now fully backed by the TOAA. he wasn't back then. There was no TOAA back then. He also has held mega verses in his hand. Back then, he wasn't even the most poweful being in the multiverse.
Well, people around here don't fully understand what a retcon is.
People could argue that pre-retcon Jean Grey ate a sun. But that's ignoring the fact that the retcon established that as a seperate character which was never really Jean. It was ALWAYS(due to the retcon) a seperate entity when it was Dark Phoenix. The Real jean was in the ocean. So there is no (Pre-retcon jean grey ate a sun) as that never happened in continuity.
Like here. The retcon establishes that the character was never really that powerful. I don't care what the reason is, be it that LT or TOAA let him at that point in time. Or that it was an illusion, or a dream or some mass drug induced delerium. It's not important the why. Just the fact that the retcon happened means that it didn't really happen the first time around the way people think it did.
In otherwords those that argue for the pre-retcon MM not only ignore the fact that Pre MM Retcon LT is not in this fight. But they were duped by the illusion/dream/trick/drug induced stupor.
Just as there is no "pre retcon-jean grey who ate a sun" there is no "pre retcon MM who was higher than current LT" It never happened.
Originally posted by Air Legend
The current LT is not backed up by TOAA. His only superior is TOAA, however.
Actually he is. It's kinda explained that way in Thanos the End. It shows that the one above all willed everything to happen, meaning thanos could have defeated the LT if TOAA hasn't manipulated the events as such. Being as it may, no one can defeat the LT unless the one above all deams it so.
Originally posted by Air Legend
That's what I meant. I forgot to say IT and used he instead.Current LT (which is the same LT) is not fully backed up by TOAA. TOAA is shown as LT's only superior, however.
Classic MM wins this in a stomp.
Originally posted by Air LegendAgain you're using the pre mm retcon toaa and not the toaa of today.
That's what I meant. I forgot to say IT and used he instead.Current LT (which is the same LT) is not fully backed up by TOAA. TOAA is shown as LT's only superior, however.
Classic MM wins this in a stomp.
What's the matter can't abide by the threads stipulations, and thus the forum rules to win?