Classic MM vs. CURRENT LT

I was about to touch on it, but there is a marked difference between power and authority. Do the people bandying these terms around know the difference?

As far as the rest is concerned, it's semantics. There was a retcon. I get what the "2=2" people are saying. I also get what the other side is saying. If we're going to be pedantic about what a retcon means, there isn't a debate, because there never was a classic MM to begin with. Of course, I define "classic" as pre-retcon. In short, for those of you expounding the effects of a retcon, it's basically LT vs a character that never existed, which means this debate is over for you guys. Let the rest of the people have it from their point of view.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Let me get you to see it from this angle. If they were never moved down, due to them never being above the LT, via retcon, then exactly how do they beat him? We are talking about the LT who has never experienced being below them. Not the guy in the story, but the one who has NEVER been below either. You realize that The LT accordin to continuity was never below them. So explain how they beat him when the LT in discussion has never been below them.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Because they before the retcon were ALWAYS meant to be>LT, who has never received a power boost, and would still be weaker. Get it?

Nope. Becuz the LT has never been weaker than them. Get it? If they were ALWAYS meant to be>LT then why are they not?

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Yep, Beyonder and MM were weakened to make the queer yellow guy look better(I just hate the thing to be honest).

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
2. Exactly, the action was Beyonder and MM being weakened,

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
the reaction was they were moved down, which left LT at the #2 spot.

Tell me what you think a retcon is, as you obviously don't think a retcon is what it actually is.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Because they before the retcon were ALWAYS meant to be>LT, who has never received a power boost, and would still be weaker. Get it?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Nope. Becuz the LT has never been weaker than them. Get it? If they were ALWAYS meant to be>LT then why are they not?

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Because a guy who didn't like Beyonder retconned him. 😐

Guess who that is? The one above all. His power so great that the beyonder was NEVER more powerful than the LT. The beyonders powers hasn't changed, and niether has the LT, according to you.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Actually you're showing a good deal of bias in your "honesty". Adding on unneccisery qualifiers that you offer a psuedo apology for (thus establishing a negative context) doesn't help your credibility in this case.

What's a retcon?

What's a retcon?

Tell me what you think a retcon is, as you obviously don't think a retcon is what it actually is.

A retcon is when a writer in a comic alters sumthin previously done by other writers, and sometimes the same writer if he did sumthin stupid(Storm controlling solar winds).

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Guess who that is? The one above all. His power so great that the beyonder was NEVER more powerful than the LT. The beyonders powers hasn't changed, and niether has the LT, according to you.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Yeah, I do dislike LT, but that shouldn't invalidate a whole argument, should it?

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
A retcon is when a writer in a comic alters

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Technically, you are right in a sense, Beyonder was always canonically at his current power level, but since this is PR Beyonder and MM, we go by the PR stuff, which shows them both being greater than LT.

Currently LT>Omniverse Do you have any proof of PRMM being greater than the omniverse?

Any omniversal feats to share with us?

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Technically, you are right in a sense, Beyonder was always canonically at his current power level, but since this is PR Beyonder and MM, we go by the PR stuff, which shows them both being greater than LT.

OK, It shows them being>An LT who those events Never happend to the LT in this thread. Do you get that?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Its an indication of bias. Which mans that your statements and opinions are more likely to be influenced by this bias.

Nope, try again.

2. Okay. He "reveals the truth". Really, it's the same fvckin thing I am saying.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Totally ignoring what a retcon actually is...

Currently LT>Omniverse Do you have any proof of PRMM being greater than the omniverse?

Any omniversal feats to share with us?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
OK, It shows them being>An LT who those events Never happend to the LT in this thread. Do you get that?

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. I also couldn't give two shits for CMM, tho I admit I do like Beyonder.

2. Okay. He "reveals the truth". Really, it's the same fvckin thing I am saying.

Jean ate a sun, Actually it was a cosmic alien lifeform.
Wolverine Couldn't cut the hulk! But actually hulk was just healing too fast.
MM and Beyonder are greater than LT; Only not really, we fooled you...

Get it yet?

Jean never ate a sun, that was always the cosmif force. Wolverine ALWAYS was able to cut the hulk. Beyonder and MM were NEVER really greater than LT.

Simple really...

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I do get your point, but I see no reason why current LT>SW LT.

Ok. So what exactly puts CMM or PRBeyonder over the LT but it saying so in the story? Nothing in thier actions right? You get what I'm saying. So the Current LT is more powerful than that LT by sheer fact that he has greater feats than that LT.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Sure, I could easily find omniversal feats for characters who existed in an era where there was never an omniverse...Oh wait...

But LT never changed

and MM>LT but

MM has no omniversal feats...

Captain America once beat the hulk. Is that canon? Do we use that in fights?
Spiderman punched out firelord. Is that canon? Do we use that in fights?

I concede. You win. Good debate.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Captain America once beat the hulk. Is that canon? Do we use that in fights?
Spiderman punched out firelord. Is that canon? Do we use that in fights?