Originally posted by AlfheimUntil Thor hit back. 🙂
He was beating Thor.
Originally posted by AlfheimLike I said... irrelevant.
No no no no. You dont get it. He EASILY threw them off and this is something Superman could not do because Thor would himself would give him trouble.
Superman is not going to let a bunch of people tackle him.
Plus, Thor by himself gave Champion a little bit of a fight... so I don't know what the f*ck you're talking about.
Originally posted by AlfheimNo Thor wasn't pulling his punches, he just hit Champion with a weak attack, even if he was going all out.
I didnt say that the Thor fight was PIS...I said Thing hitting harder than Thor hammer is PIS. So Thor was pulling his punches, no he wasnt.
However, if Thor would have hit Champion with an attack like this:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Scans/thorvsterrax22kc.jpg
Wait, what about an attack like this:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Thor_vol2-527-025-16-17.jpg
Or, perhaps something like this:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/thor30030le2.jpg
However, you know what Thor did do to Champion, he did this:
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/9382/marveltwoinoneannual072qi9.jpg
Ya, Thing breaking his ribs is unsupported... and Thor barely hit Chump. Smiley face
Originally posted by AlfheimI'm blowing something out of proportion?
Your blowing it out of proportion diod you see Champion screaming agnoy or was he just slightly winded?
Originally posted by Alfheim
No no no no. You dont get it. He EASILY threw them off and this is something Superman could not do because Thor would himself would give him trouble.
Say what?
Originally posted by AlfheimWhat?
I could say the samething about thrwoing a punch. If hes skilled in teleportation he will be skilled enough to do it even if hes getting punched
So, let's say Hulk is pounding on a being. Let's give Hulk a speed boost, and let's give him the ability to fly. Let's also give way faster hands.
Let's let this upgraded Hulk punch you. Now how the f*ck are you going to react fast enough without getting pounded if your name be Champion?
Why would he be thinking about teleporting even, if he is getting at least 3 Hulk level haymakers landed on his face a second?
Keep in mind, said Champion had time to think about BFR'ing the things he did, before he did it. 🙂
Originally posted by AlfheimSo is Superman hucking opponents away in less than a second (although it's recent). Doesn't mean he's going to do it in every fight.
Its still canon.
Plus, Champion hasn't done that since like his first appearance... Let's use a little bit of our brains to figure out in how many comics he hasn't done this, shall we?
Marvel Two in One annual # 7 <-> She-Hulk #11.
In a span of 19 comics, or 23 years he hasn't done this... what in the f*ck gives you the idea he's going to do it now?
*information is taken from here:
http://comicbookdb.com/character_chron.php?ID=605 *
Originally posted by AlfheimOK.
So Mantis still tripped up Runner, period.
Originally posted by AlfheimI'm just giving context.
Oh do me a favour, thats just how it was written. Are you serious so Runner was moving so slow that Mantis had time to speak. Oh I know so when you see people dodging bullets, and their talking the bullets are going in slow motion.....sheesshshhh.
Unless you believe Runner was going at top speed...
Also, can you give me one example where people are talking after a bullets fired? 😬
Originally posted by Alfheim
Oh I see he didnt block it...it deflected off his arm now...oh I get it.
Either way, guess what? That's also a one-time showing of his skill... funny, yes?
Also, Mantis has been tagged before, and she couldn't break free from his full nelson, so I can't see why it's such a great showing...
Originally posted by AlfheimSo, if I spy on Mike Tyson, but never see him fight, I must know what he's capable of? Seems reasonable...
Well shes an integalactc traveller and had been spying on the elders. Even if she didnt know. You see some giant alien coming towards you your not going to mess around because you doint know what hes capable of so you would be weary.
Perhaps, perhaps not.
Originally posted by AlfheimAh, I forgot when Thor tried to give her a full nelson...
No but it still doent change tha fact that Thor wasnt fast enough to do it and Champion was.
Originally posted by AlfheimDidn't seem like it... Especially since the fight stopped right after he was hit... 😐
Yeah but he was still winning.
Originally posted by AlfheimBecause Hulk was too much of an animal (what a stupid excuse). 🙄
Not because he was scared though was it.
Originally posted by AlfheimIt was a boring fight because he started to hit Sassy...
He wasnt taking it serioulsy he even said that sassy was boring him you are forgetting the context of the fight.
Originally posted by AlfheimWritten properly?
Not written properly what happened to his ability to teleport objects when he was stranded in space all of a sudden he forgot he could do that. Thanos stated that Champion fought like the Hulk but despite the fcat that the Champion didnt want the Hulk because he had no finese.
Because Champion couldn't hit Thanos. I'd be pissed too if I couldn't hit my opponent as he was so vastly superior to me in skillz. Especially after I touted myself the best fighter in the universe...
Originally posted by AlfheimSo... completely irrelevant to any forum battle?
Yeah of course I was going to assume that Superman would stand still.
Originally posted by AlfheimYes because Thor was fueled with anger. Thor was spitting he was hitting so hard. Thor's eyes were red. Oh, I remember Thor only giving a tiny thrust.
Yes because Champion was writhing in agony. Champion was on the floor gasping for breath. Champion almost passed out. Oh I remember Champion was sligthly winded.
🙂
Originally posted by Alfheim
My bad its like early in the am here. Thor would have still lost the hammer didnt even hurt him that much just winded him.
Originally posted by AlfheimSassy is like a buttstain to Superman. Annoying, but with one wipe, that buttstain is gone.
Yeah because thats the point I was trying to make. Oh I know Sas is tough class 100 brick and Champion was toying with him which makes Champion tough.
Also, since this is somehow relevant to Superman by your standards... Superman one-shotted Despero... who makes Sassy look like a flee in comparison. 🙂
Originally posted by AlfheimEven Apocalypse has good showings... and his showings far out weigh his bad ones... Champion can't say the same.
I can give you numerous example were Apoc has jobbed.....for example ducking from a table. Oh right so because Apoc ducked from a table and it happened in a comic that means its ok? Hell even if its happens numerous times it can still be PIS but you have to look at the powerset of the character.
You should have compared Rhino instead.
Originally posted by AlfheimI got the point.
You completely missed the point didnt you....No you dont get it. If Cap beat Shang chi and then get beaten by a street thug what would you think. Thats why She-Hulk beating him is PIS because hes beaten opponents far more dangerous. Thing breaking his ribs is PIS because Thing does not punch harder than Thors hammer. Thats the whole point of PIS.
Originally posted by tkitnaWell, that was a stupid comment.
Your right. I forgot we were talking about Superman. Nobody in Marvel can even come close to beating him. Sorry for my lapse in memory. Carry On. 😎
Bitch your problems to someone else, because I like Marvel more than DC. I'm just not stupid. 🙂
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Sassy is like a buttstain to Superman. Annoying, but with one wipe, that buttstain is gone.Also, since this is somehow relevant to Superman by your standards... Superman one-shotted Despero... who makes Sassy look like a flee in comparison. 🙂
🙁
Your 100% right, but it still hurts 🙁
I'm giving this to supes. If it was a champion that is written on how his powers is SUPPOSE to be then I'll give it to him but he sucks in comics. Power wise>>superman- incaculable strength, knows every fighting style and technique in the universe, nigh invulnerable, super human speed. That alone would f*** superman up, giving his other powers, the fight should be a stomp but again champion sucks in comics.
Superman wins this all day.
Champion written correct should win this veeeeeeeeeeeeery easily but hey, have that ever happened, so he loses.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Until Thor hit back. 🙂Plus, Thor by himself gave Champion a little bit of a fight... so I don't know what the f*ck you're talking about.
Why did the fight stop. Did it stop because he was losing or because weapons are not allowed in the ring? I thought it was common sense to say that weapons are not allowed.. The hammer blow didnt even hurt him, so he went ugg so that means he was in trouble? He could have clearly taken more because he wasnt in any pain after getting hit. Hell Superman beat Thor but landed flat on his back and thats without the hammer.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Like I said... irrelevant.Superman is not going to let a bunch of people tackle him..
That is a stupid statement obvoulsy it demonstrates that Champ is far more powerful than Superman.
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistNo Thor wasn't pulling his punches, he just hit Champion with a weak attack, even if he was going all out.
However, if Thor would have hit Champion with an attack like this:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Scans/thorvsterrax22kc.jpgWait, what about an attack like this:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Thor_vol2-527-025-16-17.jpgOr, perhaps something like this:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/thor30030le2.jpgHowever, you know what Thor did do to Champion, he did this:
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/9382/marveltwoinoneannual072qi9.jpgYa, Thing breaking his ribs is unsupported... and Thor barely hit Chump. Smiley face
I'm blowing something out of proportion?.
Crap Thor hits Champ and the reason why it didnt drop him was beacuse it wasnt that hard? Ok your using your logix the reason why Cap hasnt been able to KO Namor is because he wasnt punching that hard. Yeah because obvoulsy he wasnt because hes KOed Crossbones.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Say what?
Right so Superman is stronger than. Hulk, Namor, Doc Samson, Thing, Sasquatch, Collosus and Wonder Man.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
So, let's say Hulk is pounding on a being. Let's give Hulk a speed boost, and let's give him the ability to fly. Let's also give way faster hands.
Let's let this upgraded Hulk punch you. Now how the f*ck are you going to react fast enough without getting pounded if your name be Champion?Why would he be thinking about teleporting even, if he is getting at least 3 Hulk level haymakers landed on his face a second?
Keep in mind, said Champion had time to think about BFR'ing the things he did, before he did it. 🙂
Thats just an assumption that he couldnt do it. Like I said he dealt with Mantis so basically Champion is just gonna stand there and get punched.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
So is Superman hucking opponents away in less than a second (although it's recent). Doesn't mean he's going to do it in every fight.
Doesnt matter its still valid for this forum.
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistPlus, Champion hasn't done that since like his first appearance... Let's use a little bit of our brains to figure out in how many comics he [b]hasn't
done this, shall we?Marvel Two in One annual # 7 <-> She-Hulk #11.
In a span of 19 comics, or 23 years he hasn't done this... what in the f*ck gives you the idea he's going to do it now?*information is taken from here:
http://comicbookdb.com/character_chron.php?ID=605 *
[/B]
Right so because he hasnt done it that makes it non-canon? Hell the Thing refernced what happened in SS 87. Regardless of wether you like or not its still a legitimate feat by the forum rules so tough
OK.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I'm just giving context.Unless you believe Runner was going at top speed...
No but when Superman speed blitzes hes not always going at top speed either but hes still going pretty fast. You dindt gice context it was an absurd statement.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Also, can you give me one example where people are talking after a bullets fired? 😬
Stop taking the piss. 😐
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Either that, or they both punched each other.
Yeah because they are both highly trained MAs Champion dindt block her punch its just bounced off of course thats the most logical explanation. Actually I dont even think Champion blocked it I think they were dancing.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Either way, guess what? That's also a one-time showing of his skill... funny, yes?
Yeah it is because everytime Champion has a decent feat its always a one time feat. If Champion blocks a punch he didnt actually block it....it bounced off his arm. If he gets hit by Thor hammer, Thors blow wasnt that powerful. Its funny how you keep belittling his feats.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Also, Mantis has been tagged before, and she couldn't break free from his full nelson, so I can't see why it's such a great showing...
Yeah because since shes been tagged before means thats shes slow now. Hell Superman has been tagged before therefors his slow.....good grief.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
So, if I spy on Mike Tyson, but never see him fight, I must know what he's capable of? Seems reasonable...Perhaps, perhaps not.
Furthermore you dont mess around with an opponent who you dont know because you know you could get **** up.
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistAh, I forgot when Thor tried to give her a full nelson...
What you want me to explain it agin. Champion had to be fast enough to do it. Even is it was due to strength cleary he had to be fast. Thor was not fast enough and even if its not a full nelson calss 100 person trying to restrain you equals alot.
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistDidn't seem like it... Especially since the fight stopped right after he was hit... 😐
It was againt the rules! Whats wrong with you was Champion in pain. Was he panting for breath? Was he moaoning in pain? Was he on one knee? Or was he standing up normally.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Because Hulk was too much of an animal (what a stupid excuse). 🙄
That's the excuse I give when I'm scared as well...
Stupid. He just threw off Hulk, Thor, Sasquatch, Wonder Man, THing, Doc Samson and Namor and hes gonaa get scared if Hulks gets pissed. Use your head.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
It was a boring fight because he started to hit Sassy...
Or maybe because Champion said so....sheeesshhhh!!!
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Written properly?
I like how you're basing Champion off of two, maybe three comics... funny actually.
It doesnt matter its still bad writing. You know why Jim Starling wrote the Thanos Quest and hes read Champions first appearances and know he knows that because Thing mentioned this in SS. You can ***** all day about how its over 20 years old but the forum rules state that canon feats are allowed. Champion was left stranded in space and the writer made him forget that he could use his teleportation therefore its crap. Its like a writer decding that Spiderman can stick to walls for no apparent reason...its crap. Not only that Champion use teleportation sveral times.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Because Champion couldn't hit Thanos. I'd be pissed too if I couldn't hit my opponent as he was so vastly superior to me in skillz. Especially after I touted myself the best fighter in the universe...
Yeah because Champion has the same personality as you?
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Yes because Thor was fueled with anger. Thor was spitting he was hitting so hard. Thor's eyes were red. Oh, I remember Thor only giving a tiny thrust.🙂
Stop being an idiot.
Being threatens to destroy the world + Thor doesnt want the earth destroyed + has hammer in hand + Previoulsy owned him and a load of heroes = Hits Champion as hard as he ****ing can!!!!
Use your blood head for the love of god.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Sassy is like a buttstain to Superman. Annoying, but with one wipe, that buttstain is gone.Also, since this is somehow relevant to Superman by your standards... Superman one-shotted Despero... who makes Sassy look like a flee in comparison. 🙂
Thor isnt.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Even Apocalypse has good showings... and his showings far out weigh his bad ones... Champion can't say the same.
Plus, ducking from a table means that he ducked from a table... he didn't get knocked out, he didn't get beat, he didn't get embarrassed, he ducked from a table.
Personal fear has nothing to do with physical stature.
So what now I got to explain how ducking from a table is PIS? Its not just about the shwoings its about POWERSET. If a herald of G loses to a street levler its PIS no matter how many times it happens unless there is a good explantion. With the Elders there are two types those who develop powers and those whose use tech. Those who devlop powers tend to be sub-skyfather.
Runner- one of the fastest beings in the universe.
Contemplator- spent billions of years developing mental pwoers and in my opinion has sky-father level feats.
Obilterator- Dedicated his life to hunting. Was beating Surfer until Surfer moleculy altered his tech. Not PIS because an explanation was given but he was still more powerful than Surfer.
Champion- diedicates his life for billions of hears to H2H and is crap WTF?
Originally posted by AlfheimHow does it work both ways. Mantis is one of the best Mas in the universe he then gets beaten by somebody who gets trained by somebody with comparable skill...so in other words there is no way She Hulmk could have been anywhere near Mantis's skill level and therefore had no business beating Champion. Cap beat Shang Chi in H2H and then loses to Batroc...dont make sense
Because logic, as well as PIS works both ways. There is PIS for both high feats AND low feats, even though PIS for high feats is frequently ignored by people who expound the power levels of that character.
I know what Mantis can do. I know what She-hulk can do. My line of reasoning is that the opposite of what you just wrote holds true as well. Mantis is much more skilled than She-Hulk. IF Champion cannot beat She-Hulk, then his skill level cannot be compared to that of Mantis, thus making that high showing PIS. Just needed to point that out.
Originally posted by Ouallada
Because logic, as well as PIS works both ways. There is PIS for both high feats AND low feats, even though PIS for high feats is frequently ignored by people who expound the power levels of that character.I know what Mantis can do. I know what She-hulk can do. My line of reasoning is that the opposite of what you just wrote holds true as well. Mantis is much more skilled than She-Hulk. IF Champion cannot beat She-Hulk, then his skill level cannot be compared to that of Mantis, thus making that high showing PIS. Just needed to point that out.
You also need to take into account the powerset of the character. We dont expect Watchers to lose to Heralds of Galactus when by defualt they are more powerful.
Elders vary in power according to their pasttime. The Runner dedicated his life...to running and as a result is one of the fastets beings in the uiniverse. Obliterator dedicated his life to hunting and is actually more powerful than SS but SS found a way to ruin his tech. A well written Elder who has dedicated his life to H2H has no business losing to She-Hulk.
Originally posted by Alfheim
You also need to take into account the powerset of the character. We dont expect Watchers to lose to Heralds of Galactus when by defualt they are more powerful.Elders vary in power according to their pasttime. The Runner dedicated his life...to running and as a result is one of the fastets beings in the uiniverse. Obliterator dedicated his life to hunting and is actually more powerful than SS but SS found a way to ruin his tech. A well written Elder who has dedicated his life to H2H has no business losing to She-Hulk.
Well, on-panel feats always take precedence over information fed to us by the writers via handbooks etc. Runner is above herald level because of what we have seen of him, in addition to what we are told of him. His blitzing of Thanos with some gems and his complete destruction of the surfer adds to the info we are given. Thus, we can safely say that Mantis tripping Runner was a low-showing bordering on PIS.
For Champion, we are told that he is supposed to be this and that, but his on-panel feats are pretty much a wash. For everything that we can read as a good feat there is another that reads as a low feat. I agree that he should definitely beat She-Hulk. However, this victory is because of the information that I know of him via hyperbole of sorts, and not because of his average feat level.
Well, this is entertaining.
I'd advise you to reread my comments, but that won't help.
Deny, deny, deny. 🙂
Originally posted by AlfheimIt stopped after Thor hit him, and Champion wanted the weapon taken away.
Why did the fight stop. Did it stop because he was losing or because weapons are not allowed in the ring? I thought it was common sense to say that weapons are not allowed.. The hammer blow didnt even hurt him, so he went ugg so that means he was in trouble? He could have clearly taken more because he wasnt in any pain after getting hit. Hell Superman beat Thor but landed flat on his back and thats without the hammer.
However, Champion could clearly see that Thor had the hammer before the fight started, so... Um ya?
The hammer blow did though, and whether he could have taken more is irrelevant, as Thor could have dished out blows way more powerful. How much pain would a hammer blow that took out Terrax, or smashed Celestial armor caused Champion?
Plus, your whole point behind this, is to show that Thing breaking his ribs isn't pis because Thor didn't... however, let me say a shorter version:
Thor didn't hit Champion with a powerful blow. He hit him, sure, but a thrust is nothing compared to a swing. Hell, here's a little comparison:
Go hit something as hard as you can with a thrust from a hammer or something (I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, but I don't believe Thor hit him near as hard as he could have), and then hit that same object with a swing.
What's going to cause more damage?
Anyway, to make a long story short... Thor hitting Champion and not breaking his ribs, DOES NOT make Thing breaking Champion's ribs pis.
I can't even see why I had to get into this...
Also, I found something that perfectly describes Thor's history.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor_2001_035_32.jpg
*read it*
Taken from here:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor_2001_035_31.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor_2001_035_32.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor_2001_035_33.jpg
And before you get into that... Thor knows who Gladiator is. 🙂
Why would Thor hold back? Because he f*cking can.
Originally posted by AlfheimNo, a stupid statement would be saying Superman would let them all tackle him.
That is a stupid statement obvoulsy it demonstrates that Champ is far more powerful than Superman.
Plus, let's say Champion is far more powerful than Superman... so? What does that do then? Is Champion going to hit him? Is Champion going to fight as fast as Superman? Is Champion going to one-shot Superman if he connects? What exactly is going to happen?
You squirming around sticking to one feat also does not prove he's more powerful than Superman.
What it proves is that if Superman tackled him, that Champion could whip him in the air... and we all know how many times Superman has been defeated that way. 🙄
Plus, since I know you're going to answer with something stupid...
That power has only been demonstrated to throw opponents. It hasn't shown massive offensive power... it hasn't shown KO power. Thing survived, etc.
Plus, I've already said that Superman can't do the same. He doesn't have the Power Primordial, so I can't see how it's relevant anyway. That's like saying Champion is weaker than Superman because he can't fire blasts out of his eyes. It's different powers, so why are you comparing them?
And let's also say that it was pure strength in which he accomplished this. Well, that just proves he's hella strong, and should be able to one-shot all of those characters... doesn't it? Wrong! It was later contradicted in almost every fight he's been in.
Plus, in the end, all he did was throw some heroes off of him.
Originally posted by AlfheimWell... duh!?
Crap Thor hits Champ and the reason why it didnt drop him was beacuse it wasnt that hard? Ok your using your logix the reason why Cap hasnt been able to KO Namor is because he wasnt punching that hard. Yeah because obvoulsy he wasnt because hes KOed Crossbones.
The problem with your reasoning, is that Thor has hurt, and damaged foes more powerful than Champion... with full blows. Mangog, a Celestial? He's also pretty much crushed Terrax with one shot.
And you know how that's backed up? Because Thor was hitting harder than he normally does in those scenes.
Who the hell has Cap punched out that's stronger and more durable than Namor?
Plus, in the end, it's also backed up that Thor didn't hit him as hard as he could, because it's artistically drawn that he only gave him a thrust with his hammer.
Originally posted by AlfheimUse your head.
Right so Superman is stronger than. Hulk, Namor, Doc Samson, Thing, Sasquatch, Collosus and Wonder Man.
I was saying that you were blowing something out of proportion... because you were. 😐
If you're going to keep naming a one time feat like it's Jesus, than I as sure as hell am going to do the same. Except it's backed up. 🙂
Originally posted by AlfheimAnd Mantis is as fast as Superman...
Thats just an assumption that he couldnt do it. Like I said he dealt with Mantis so basically Champion is just gonna stand there and get punched.
Durn! You sure got me there...
Another thing, not only is Superman faster than Mantis, he's also stronger. And when you get hit once when your name is Champion, by Superman, then that one blow will offset your balance, and three will do worse, and six, and nine, and etc.
If your balance is put off, then it's mighty hard to fight back... just in case you're wondering.
Originally posted by AlfheimOK then. I don't even have to prove anything... hell, I might as well just quit this argument right now, and just answer this point.
Doesnt matter its still valid for this forum.
Champion gets chucked away before he can react 10/10.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/JLoA14-19.jpg
Originally posted by Alfheim
Right so because he hasnt done it that makes it non-canon? Hell the Thing refernced what happened in SS 87. Regardless of wether you like or not its still a legitimate feat by the forum rules so toughOK.
It doesn't make it non-canon, it makes it almost ridiculous to prove going by forum standards that he's going to do it.
I don't give a shit if he referenced it.
Originally posted by AlfheimI never said Superman does.
No but when Superman speed blitzes hes not always going at top speed either but hes still going pretty fast. You dindt gice context it was an absurd statement.
Yes I did. She had time to say a lot of words.
Plus, are you comparing Runner's speed to Champion's?
All she did was trip him. 😬
Originally posted by AlfheimYou made the comment.
Stop taking the piss. 😐
I'd really like to know. 🙂
Originally posted by AlfheimLike I said, either it deflected off him, or they hit each other. It could have very well been both of them countering each other.
Yeah because they are both highly trained MAs Champion dindt block her punch its just bounced off of course thats the most logical explanation. Actually I dont even think Champion blocked it I think they were dancing.
I guess they were dancing if you think it.
Originally posted by AlfheimWell, he's only got one-time feat of showing his touted bestests skillz in teh yewniverse, off the top of my head. What does that say? On the other hand, he's been bested by She-Hulk, Thanos, Drax... I guess...
Yeah it is because everytime Champion has a decent feat its always a one time feat. If Champion blocks a punch he didnt actually block it....it bounced off his arm. If he gets hit by Thor hammer, Thors blow wasnt that powerful. Its funny how you keep belittling his feats.
OK.
OK.
I'm not belittling his feats. However, I'm not about to make something that he isn't out of his feats.
You know what's not one-time feats though? Him getting his ass kicked.
Originally posted by AlfheimNo. It's just that you're acting like it's the best feat ever.
Yeah because since shes been tagged before means thats shes slow now. Hell Superman has been tagged before therefors his slow.....good grief.
According to you... I guess that makes Superman slow.
Originally posted by AlfheimIt's impossible to underrate your opponent, I guess...
Furthermore you dont mess around with an opponent who you dont know because you know you could get **** up.
Originally posted by Alfheim
What you want me to explain it agin. Champion had to be fast enough to do it. Even is it was due to strength cleary he had to be fast. Thor was not fast enough and even if its not a full nelson calss 100 person trying to restrain you equals alot.
Thor didn't try it first off...
Originally posted by AlfheimNo, but he doesn't have to be to know that it's going to hurt if he's hit again.
It was againt the rules! Whats wrong with you was Champion in pain. Was he panting for breath? Was he moaoning in pain? Was he on one knee? Or was he standing up normally.
Originally posted by AlfheimLike I said before, I was joking about it..
Stupid. He just threw off Hulk, Thor, Sasquatch, Wonder Man, THing, Doc Samson and Namor and hes gonaa get scared if Hulks gets pissed. Use your head.
However, throwing a bunch of people off you = beating I guess...
Plus, Champion's excuse was piss poor whether joking or not. 😐
Originally posted by Alfheim
Or maybe because Champion said so....sheeesshhhh!!!
Originally posted by AlfheimI admit it was bad writing... Champion should have been demolished by Thanos's blows.
It doesnt matter its still bad writing. You know why Jim Starling wrote the Thanos Quest and hes read Champions first appearances and know he knows that because Thing mentioned this in SS. You can ***** all day about how its over 20 years old but the forum rules state that canon feats are allowed. Champion was left stranded in space and the writer made him forget that he could use his teleportation therefore its crap. Its like a writer decding that Spiderman can stick to walls for no apparent reason...its crap. Not only that Champion use teleportation sveral times.
First off... when has Champion teleported himself (not saying he hasn't done it, but I haven't seen it)?
Second off, if he has teleported himself before, then well, that kind of f*cks over him ever teleporting anyone on the forum. Since he apparently doesn't have that power anymore.
Originally posted by AlfheimNo, I'm just throwing it out there. However, me thinks it would be mighty frustrating for any being to be bested after they dubbed themselves the best fighter in the universe.
Yeah because Champion has the same personality as you?
Originally posted by AlfheimAs I showed earlier, Thor holds back.
Stop being an idiot.Being threatens to destroy the world + Thor doesnt want the earth destroyed + has hammer in hand + Previoulsy owned him and a load of heroes = Hits Champion as hard as he ****ing can!!!!
Use your blood head for the love of god.
Plus, in the Two in One annual, Thor wasn't about to be killed, and maybe he held back (he sure as hell didn't look like he was trying too hard), but just because you state reasons, it doesn't make it true.
Also, it helps my case, that all Thor did was thrust the hammer into him... 🙂
Originally posted by AlfheimAnd Champion didn't beat him... point?
Thor isnt.
Originally posted by AlfheimYou didn't explain why ducking from a table is pis... 😐 In fact, it's a mental game... it has nothing to do with powerset.
So what now I got to explain how ducking from a table is PIS? Its not just about the shwoings its about POWERSET. If a herald of G loses to a street levler its PIS no matter how many times it happens unless there is a good explantion. With the Elders there are two types those who develop powers and those whose use tech. Those who devlop powers tend to be sub-skyfather.Runner- one of the fastest beings in the universe.
Contemplator- spent billions of years developing mental pwoers and in my opinion has sky-father level feats.
Obilterator- Dedicated his life to hunting. Was beating Surfer until Surfer moleculy altered his tech. Not PIS because an explanation was given but he was still more powerful than Surfer.
Champion- diedicates his life for billions of hears to H2H and is crap WTF?
It's a good thing that Heralds don't lose to street levelers then.
And, Champion has like one showing of his skill, and he's been beaten many times. I don't care about how long he's trained.
Anyway, I'm done here. This was entertaining at first, but now it's pretty annoying. 🙂
