KH Sephiroth v.s. Dante

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
That's not really true. Skyfathers often have what SS has and are better using them. SS has so many powers cause he is basically a much weaker Galactus...kinda.

oh rly? ive never heard anything more from skyfathers than ridiculosu and common in marvelverse destruction feats. But he has tonnes of cool powers

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Silver Surfer would own a million Sephiroth's & Dante's.... how did he even get invloved in this? 😛

yep, just before getting his ass owned by Kain, ultimate pwnage

Originally posted by Burning thought
yep, just before getting his ass owned by Kain, ultimate pwnage

.....ummm.... no

SS turns all the seph & dantes into SS's then 2 millino + 1 SS all get one hit by kain 😐 it's the tooth

Originally posted by EvilAngel
.....ummm.... no

SS turns all the seph & dantes into SS's then 2 millino + 1 SS all get one hit by kain 😐 it's the tooth

dammit you thnk your so clever 🙁

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Originally posted by Burning thought
oh rly? ive never heard anything more from skyfathers than ridiculosu and common in marvelverse destruction feats. But he has tonnes of cool powers

yep, just before getting his ass owned by Kain, ultimate pwnage

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Well, Odin is about SS speed, all Skyfathers have matter manip, and other stuffs, it depends on the Skyfather really. Like Pyron is a Skyfather with overwhelming power, strength, speed, and has many ways to utilize simple powers like fire manip or shapeshifting, Darkseid on the other hand is a Skyfather with good strength, speed, and durability, is a genius, and has Omega Powers, which can allow him to do things like delete beings.

Pyron can only create matter not manipulate it, not like a TRUE skyfather can.....
also simply having matter manip isnt exactley good enough for Skyfather status..

1. deleting beings rules

Originally posted by Burning thought
dammit you think your so clever 🙁

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I know, my secret is i'm so stupid people THINK i'm clever, MUAHAHAHA

Originally posted by Burning thought
Pyron can only create matter not manipulate it, not like a [B]TRUE skyfather can.....
also simply having matter manip isnt exactley good enough for Skyfather status..

1. deleting beings rules [/B]

Yep. It can be survived tho, weird, Superman and Doomsday could survive it, Supes was still badly injured, but DD was fine, as DD is uberzor.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
He has manipped matter tho, when he separated Bishamon and the Makai armor and sword that were possessing his body and soul. Pyron has things other Skyfathers do not. Also, creating matter>Manipping it.

Yep. It can be survived tho, weird, Superman and Doomsday could survive it, Supes was still badly injured, but DD was fine, as DD is uberzor.

hm, i still have not been shown proof, ive read sources that said all he does is somehow take the curse from the two and they were seperated. A lot of cahracters have things skyfathers do not. False, creating matter can be as simple as a fireball, creating matter is as simple as regenerting loss flesh since your creating flesh again...Manipulating it is far far more impressive, like changing genetic constructs and such.

most things in comics can be survived, there not that power, they are created by a guy with a pen/pencil onto the page wheras game charcters have tonnes of super computer technology behind them!!

Originally posted by Burning thought
hm, i still have not been shown proof, ive read sources that said all he does is somehow take the curse from the two and they were seperated. A lot of cahracters have things skyfathers do not. False, creating matter can be as simple as a fireball, creating matter is as simple as regenerting loss flesh since your creating flesh again...Manipulating it is far far more impressive, like changing genetic constructs and such.

most things in comics can be survived, there not that power, they are created by a guy with a pen/pencil onto the page wheras game charcters have tonnes of super computer technology behind them!!

2. Yeah, I guess if you have good enough durability you can survive it, tho some things in comics are PIS, like Supes deflecting the Omega Beams with Heat Vision....wtf?

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. It says he easily separated them with his vast energies or some shite, that would require matter manip. Remove the curse? Pyron has magic now? Lol. Alot of characters do, but Pyron has feats that are better than some Skyfathers(not Odin tho, he's called the strongest Skyfather for a reason). Creating a fireball? Manipulating the heat from your body or the air. Regenerating flesh? Multiplying the cells that make up your body to replace the lost ones. Pyron CREATED matter from NOTHING.

2. Yeah, I guess if you have good enough durability you can survive it, tho some things in comics are PIS, like Supes deflecting the Omega Beams with Heat Vision....wtf?

1. From nothing? also who are you to claim thats how a fireball is made, in what universe chuck?

please prove its from nothing, it could just as likely be made from his own energies so unless you have proof their both assumtions and so you cannot claim it as matter creation beyond the average fireball in base value.

Originally posted by Burning thought
1. From nothing? also who are you to claim thats how a fireball is made, in what universe chuck?

please prove its from nothing, it could just as likely be made from his own energies so unless you have proof their both assumtions and so you cannot claim it as matter creation beyond the average fireball in base value.

How can you make matter from non-matter?

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. In most verses actually. It depends, and you know their is a difference between making a fireball and making an advanced army of intelligent robots to do your bidding, and serve a purpose for you.

How can you make matter from non-matter?

erm yeh theres a differnt overall, but not in the base value of matter creation.

the same reason you seem to think you can make fire out of air....what about lighting, beams of energy? especially in space, you can make things from energy.

what about Darkmatter? the stuff its called that makes up space itself, my assumptions are as good as yours, you seem to think he makes it out of thin air.....especially since the things glow a blue energy haze, its likely their made from his very energy itself...

also what do you mean how can you make matter from non-matter...prob just as impossible as going faster than the speed of light without going back in time, or being the size pyron is as a living being with conciousnesness..but it happens.

Originally posted by Burning thought
erm yeh theres a differnt overall, but not in the base value of matter creation.

the same reason you seem to think you can make fire out of air....what about lighting, beams of energy? especially in space, you can make things from energy.

what about Darkmatter? the stuff its called that makes up space itself, my assumptions are as good as yours, you seem to think he makes it out of thin air.....especially since the things glow a blue energy haze, its likely their made from his very energy itself...

also what do you mean how can you make matter from non-matter...prob just as impossible as going faster than the speed of light without going back in time, or being the size pyron is as a living being with conciousnesness..but it happens.

2. Lightning is essentially a form of fire. Beams of energy? Depends. DBZ characters make it by projecting their Ki, which is their personal spirit energy, then beings like Ironman do it with power stored in his suit.

3. I hope you realise that is a form of matter manipulation. Manipulating pure energy to matter is manip of the highest order.

4. True, Pyron's FTL case can be that since he lacks a physical body, some physical rules don't apply to him, the various Supermen do it by manipping the gravity around them, Flash does it by using the Speedforce. As for Pyron's existence, he has achieved the state that is meant to represent the "perfect evolution", an existence beyond your physical body, Einstein believed in this as well I believe.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. True I suppose.

2. Lightning is essentially a form of fire. Beams of energy? Depends. DBZ characters make it by projecting their Ki, which is their personal spirit energy, then beings like Ironman do it with power stored in his suit.

3. I hope you realise that is a form of matter manipulation. Manipulating pure energy to matter is manip of the highest order.

4. True, Pyron's FTL case can be that since he lacks a physical body, some physical rules don't apply to him, the various Supermen do it by manipping the gravity around them, Flash does it by using the Speedforce. As for Pyron's existence, he has achieved the state that is meant to represent the "perfect evolution", an existence beyond your physical body, Einstein believed in this as well I believe.

1. ofc, ime never wrong young lad

2. Lighting is fire..wtf.....who told you that mr rogers?

3. erm i hope you realise energy is not even technically matter, so its energy manip, not matter....that would be more like Transmution on an energy to matter level...but all he does is make those robots, its not like he has a vast variety of powers he can do with this

4. "shrug" their impossibilties, manip gravity around you but its accepted isnt it

Originally posted by Burning thought
1. ofc, ime never wrong young lad

2. Lighting is fire..wtf.....who told you that mr rogers?

3. erm i hope you realise energy is not even technically matter, so its energy manip, not matter....that would be more like Transmution on an energy to matter level...but all he does is make those robots, its not like he has a vast variety of powers he can do with this

4. "shrug" their impossibilties, manip gravity around you but its accepted isnt it

2. It pretty much is.

3. Dur. He manipped energy to matter, and now that I think of it, when absorbing things he manips matter to energy...he can manip matter.

4. Kain forming into bats is an impossibility too, but hey, that's life.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Well, Odin is about SS speed, all Skyfathers have matter manip, and other stuffs, it depends on the Skyfather really. Like Pyron is a Skyfather with overwhelming power, strength, speed, and has many ways to utilize simple powers like fire manip or shapeshifting, Darkseid on the other hand is a Skyfather with good strength, speed, and durability, is a genius, and has Omega Powers, which can allow him to do things like delete beings.

Darkseid is NOT a skyfather level, id even rate darkseid under thanos, especially how often he gets his ass kicked by supes, batman even made him bleed,

Odin is >>>> SS by far, when they faught, when Odin faught SS and Thanos, he took SS's cosmic beam, and didnt even notice it, then he one shotted Silver Surfer,

Odin is a real skyfather level, he has vast magic, matter matipulation, has the power to even bring people back from the dead, transport entire populations to different dimensions, a weakened odin moved asgard from its time & place in reality, turned a regular mortal woman into a goddess, even easily CREATES planets, stars, and entire galaxys, a being who can rival powers like this can only be called a skyfather.

taking on both SS and thanos, easily

SS starts to annoy him, then gets one shotted.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Darkseid is NOT a skyfather level, id even rate darkseid under thanos, especially how often he gets his ass kicked by supes, batman made him bleed,

Odin is >>>> SS by far, when they faught, when Odin faught SS and Thanos, he took SS's cosmic beam, and didnt even notice it, then he one shotted Silver Surfer,

Odin is a real skyfather level, he has vast magic, matter matipulation, has the power to even bring people back from the dead, transport entire populations to different dimensions, a weakened odin moved asgard from its time & place in reality, turned a regular mortal woman into a goddess, even easily CREATES planets, stars, and entire galaxys, a being who can rival powers like this can only be called a skyfather.

taking on both SS and thanos, easily

SS starts to annoy him, then gets one shotted.

^ no Darkseid didnt, Darkseid hasnt beat superman in aloooong time..

a real skyfather would beat superman with a gesture, all skyfathers rivals odin in power..

think about it.. silver surfer would pwn Superman with his vast powers, thanos beat the silver surfer to death, odin(skyfather) one shotted silver surfer, and beat up thanos, yet darkseid(proclaimed "skyfather"😉 who gets his ass beat by the likes of Superman on a regular basis without being weakened or anything, and even humans sometimes, should not have the right to be called a skyfather unless its for humour purposes.

Originally posted by Terryc250
^ no Darkseid didnt, Darkseid hasnt beat superman in aloooong time..

a real skyfather would beat superman with a gesture, all skyfathers rivals odin in power..

think about it.. silver surfer would pwn Superman with his vast powers, thanos beat the silver surfer to death, odin(skyfather) one shotted silver surfer, and beat up thanos, yet darkseid(proclaimed "skyfather"😉 who gets his ass beat by the likes of Superman on a regular basis without being weakened or anything, and even humans sometimes, should not have the right to be called a skyfather unless its for humour purposes.

Zeus is about as tough as odin, when all skyfathers went up against the celestials they all did about equally bad against them, all skyfathers rival odin as much all heralds rival SS

Darkseid at best i would give him the same status as Thanos in the marvel universe which is inbetween high herald and low skyfather, only because they have the same kind of mindset, i still have yet to see darkseid rival thanos in terms of power though, because i dont see darkseid even being able to beat silver surfer.