KH Sephiroth v.s. Dante

Originally posted by Terryc250
No ur not using forum character versus logic, ur using ur LOK storyline logic, ur saying because Kain's fate is yet to revealed, theres no way LT couldve killed him. We're doing non-cannon battles here, meaning which character is stronger, and who would win if they fought eachother. LT has displayed powers that can erase universes, dimensions, realities, what has kain done to even compare with this? Don't give me an answer saying "well in nosgoth, he cant be killed by LT because his storyline fate is yet to be revealed about what happens to him" or something like that, thats like saying if time was immutable in marvel, wolverine cant be killed by anyone in existance because he appeared in the comic xmen 2099, which means he'll own anyone who opposes him.

thats the logic your using, simply put, in LOKverse time cannot be changed, and kain already has a fate, which means theres no way LT can/couldve killed him correct? Yeah see thats not the kind of logic doesn't work here.

no ime using logic of the forum otherwise if i was using sotry logic LT would die as soon as he came into Nosgoth, which ofc isnt for this forum. No ime saying its already written, even if its not revelead theres no way along this fate line LT can do anything or be in this path. As i said obviously out of Nosgoth Kain is gonner but in Nosgoth hes protected by rules made by creators. Yes but time is not immutable in Marvel, your saying rubbish now, i may as well say if Kain was an omniversal TOAA killer he would win this fight no matter what but he just IS not is he, so thats not the line of thought that is correct for this situation. And no not neccerily, even if time was immutable Wolverine could not defeat everyone, it would likely mean he is just indefeatable but i dont know enough about wolverines comics so i wont debate him. Dont give me all that LT can destroy anything rubbish either, i KNOW his power is incredible and he can do these things but not if a Creator in their own realm slaps down a rule.

exacltey Kain has a fate, time cannot be changed so IN Nosgoth he cannot be defeated, outside easily, inside nopes.....you cant negate the rules and powers in a world, the rules of this forum simply state in a world characters have their own powers, not that the worlds rules and powers are negated, that would depend on the decision and rules of the Thread. Show me where the worlds rules dont mean anything, if thats true then all this Jedah BFR rubbish V2D says is ofc void in his arguements and that rule would benefit me in other threads if you can prove a realms/dimensions rules are negated......

Originally posted by Burning thought
no ime using logic of the forum otherwise if i was using sotry logic LT would die as soon as he came into Nosgoth, which ofc isnt for this forum. No ime saying its already written, even if its not revelead theres no way along this fate line LT can do anything or be in this path. As i said obviously out of Nosgoth Kain is gonner but in Nosgoth hes protected by rules made by creators. Yes but time is not immutable in Marvel, your saying rubbish now, i may as well say if Kain was an omniversal TOAA killer he would win this fight no matter what but he just IS not is he, so thats not the line of thought that is correct for this situation. And no not neccerily, even if time was immutable Wolverine could not defeat everyone, it would likely mean he is just indefeatable but i dont know enough about wolverines comics so i wont debate him. Dont give me all that LT can destroy anything rubbish either, i [B]KNOW his power is incredible and he can do these things but not if a Creator in their own realm slaps down a rule.

exacltey Kain has a fate, time cannot be changed so IN Nosgoth he cannot be defeated, outside easily, inside nopes.....you cant negate the rules and powers in a world, the rules of this forum simply state in a world characters have their own powers, not that the worlds rules and powers are negated, that would depend on the decision and rules of the Thread. Show me where the worlds rules dont mean anything, if thats true then all this Jedah BFR rubbish V2D says is ofc void in his arguements and that rule would benefit me in other threads if you can prove a realms/dimensions rules are negated...... [/B]

LT would die in Nosgoth? How so? He can survive universal explosions, what can Kain do to him? Plus how can Kain fight anyone other then LOK characters in Nosgoth if they never existed in Nosgoth correct? So basically its impossible for Kain to fight anyone other then LOK characters in Nosgoth, or in his storyline period, which voids any kind of battle in Nosgoth, other then the battles he fights in his storyline.

So the only reason Kain cant lose in Nosgoth is because he cant fight the opponent because the opponent never existed in his storyline.

Originally posted by Terryc250
LT would die in Nosgoth? How so? He can survive universal explosions, what can Kain do to him? Plus how can Kain fight anyone other then LOK characters in Nosgoth if they never existed in Nosgoth correct? So basically its impossible for Kain to fight anyone other then LOK characters in Nosgoth, or in his storyline period, which voids any kind of battle in Nosgoth, other then the battles he fights in his storyline.

So the only reason Kain cant lose in Nosgoth is because he cant fight the opponent because the opponent never existed in his storyline.

because LT would have no power, it all comes from TOAA since its like his henchmen and judge of the unvierse, luckily this is a KMC matchup and he would have his powers, but if he had no power whatsoever, he would likely die or become nothing since isnt he an abstract being?

its true, if an opponent who is not apart of time (LT) goes into nosgoth, it would be like an alien in the time stream, and he would be deleted, for example if Wolverine came, he would be deleted from excistence, if Superman came, he would be deleted, if a billion superman 1 millions and 1 million superman primes came, they would be deleted because thats where they dont excist

fortunatley, KMC forums can allow people to make up their own battles in a completly diffrent universe, kain according to the battle and choosing of a thread starter can have a battle not in Nosgoth, which is where most Kain VS battles go.

Originally posted by Burning thought

its true, if an opponent who is not apart of time (LT) goes into nosgoth,

sorry i typoed, the LT is not apart of time and so he would not be deleted is what i meant to say but Wolverine is and so he would be deleted

Originally posted by Terryc250
I wasnt even talking to you in half of that so i dont know why u gave me replies

Thats not really matter manipulating.. when u absorb things it becomes apart of you. Can he actually like CHANGE molecules into another molecule, not seperating things, but actually changing things, like turn a fish into a monkey or something.

Ive yet to see that, our sun is considered a small star, and our sun is well over 100 times the size of earth

No i said Surtur who is weaker then Odin has destroyed countless galaxies and Surtur is weaker then Odin, Seth has destroyed many galaxies, and he is only like a mid tier skyfather

2. He turned a demon warrior into a human and a set of armor and a sword, he basically separated them. Can he change molecules? See, this is what sucks about debating game characters, unlike in comics, they don't say shit like,"ZOMG IM FLIENG AT 1010101010 TYMES LITE!". He separated a human from the demon armor which fused with him, turning him into a demon....that's the best I have.

3. Yet to see Pyron make stars? He does it in the OVA, I can't get a vid of him making them tho, they don't look like normal stars, but they have the same properties.

4. I have a question, was this all in one shot?

This thread was on the A train, now It's on the V train.

Originally posted by Burning thought
because LT would have no power, it all comes from TOAA since its like his henchmen and judge of the unvierse, luckily this is a KMC matchup and he would have his powers, but if he had no power whatsoever, he would likely die or become nothing since isnt he an abstract being?

its true, if an opponent who is not apart of time (LT) goes into nosgoth, it would be like an alien in the time stream, and he would be deleted, for example if Wolverine came, he would be deleted from excistence, if Superman came, he would be deleted, if a billion superman 1 millions and 1 million superman primes came, they would be deleted because thats where they dont excist

fortunatley, KMC forums can allow people to make up their own battles in a completly diffrent universe, kain according to the battle and choosing of a thread starter can have a battle not in Nosgoth, which is where most Kain VS battles go.

...Everything comes from TOAA... If he goes anywhere else he'd still keep his powers just like wolverwine would.

its not that theyd be deleted, its that they cant be in nosgoth because everything in nosgoth is already planned out and they arent in the plans.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
4. I have a question, was this all in one shot? [/B]

Yes, some are even from unintentional directed blasts aiming for someone else

Originally posted by Terryc250
[BYes, some are even from unintentional directed blasts aiming for someone else [/B]

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
That proves they have great busting power. Darkseid has never busted so much as a Solar System that I know of, if there is one thing I have learned from BT, it is that there is more to power than busting.