All Powers Sephiroth vs Kain

Originally posted by Burning thought
okie...

wtf....the reaver itself? the things indestructable, also i dont know why i have not asked for proof, prove he can turn inanimate objects like a sword into himself or a body, sounds like a load of rubbish, especially a blade that cannot be broken and is host to a spirit, but this is moot, since as i told you before (yu prob did not read it) eneities like souls do not have sentience when they go into the reaver.

anything, Kain simpy cannot die, completly immortal, you could vaporise him, its a rule about kain, no matter what happens he will survive. But sephiroth wont touch kain, he isnt going to be that much faster, not with Kain dimensoning and TKing to slow Sephiroth down..

lol rubbish their not that quick, their quick but a movement of kains hand and Sephiroth would be under his mercy, also Sephiroth would have to travel distance to hit kain, i dont think they start the battle an arm away from eachother.

TK? will....TK is simply kain using force to move a being, using a combination of kinetic energy and force itself, Will has no effect on it since Moebius who has a great will and intelligence does not have any effect on kains TK powers, the only limitation on Kains TK is that he could not pick up an object much bigger than a human, for example something over 10 ft is likely.

thats because the convincing is not going to work against kain, you looking at the speed of sephiroth and saying its faster than kain, yet ime not seeing the same thing, the dimension warp is faster than sephiroth and in the time kain is moving he is not actually traveling distance and is not presecnt in the world.

he would reform from nothing if he has to, the Fact and rule is that Kain cannot die...simple as...the way in which he reforms or comes back is irrelevent, sometimes he simply forms from vapours in the air, other times bats form him....oddly enough. The fact is, if Sephiroth finds away around those types of formings, then Kain would have to reform another way.

pieces, as soon as he is pieces he turn to vapour or bats so you cant manipulate gravity on vapour, but anyway see above.

your sure? hm.....well ime sure Kain has more experiance under his belt...snap

Wait wait wai, i watch the video you posted again, how would buring kain do anything? can't he juse Dimension shift out?

By the way, there's a power that i over looked, Kain can't fight back, why?

1:15 - 1:50

YouTube video

Cloud & Co was able to overcome this by the holy of Holy. Sicne i don't think Kain has Holy, this brings up a whole new side to this VS

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Wait wait wai, i watch the video you posted again, how would buring kain do anything? can't he juse Dimension shift out?

By the way, there's a power that i over looked, Kain can't fight back, why?

1:15 - 1:50

YouTube video

Cloud & Co was able to overcome this by the holy of Holy. Sicne i don't think Kain has Holy, this brings up a whole new side to this VS

can you explain that video to me, not very clear for me since i dont undestand what the holy of the holy is and all this such...

To me it just looks like TK, also how does it work?

Does sephiroth do this himself or with use of an item? that thing behind him looked like an item or a source that is not his own...

If Seph just holds kain back with this power its not going to do him much use...., the charaters were moving anyway...they were moving towards him

Originally posted by Burning thought
can you explain that video to me, not very clear for me since i dont undestand what the holy of the holy is and all this such...

To me it just looks like TK, also how does it work?

Does sephiroth do this himself or with use of an item? that thing behind him looked like an item or a source that is not his own...

If Seph just holds kain back with this power its not going to do him much use...., the charaters were moving anyway...they were moving towards him

That thing behind him is the holy

I'm looknig it up. Some claim it's a control, a dominace over their physcial bodies and are powerless against it. Then the holy breaks that with makes sense more so than the other once.

Which is that it's TK then the holy overrides him. The Holy is materia though, how can it decide to help. Aeris only prayed to the planet....

Originally posted by EvilAngel
That thing behind him is the holy

I'm looknig it up. Some claim it's a control, a dominace over their physcial bodies and are powerless against it. Then the hoyl break that with makes sense more so than the other once

Which is that it's TK then the holy overrides him. The Holy is materia though, how can it decide to help. Aeris only prayed to the planet....

well i dunno, i just need to know how it truly works, and if its actually his, something he always has or has access to whch are the rules, otherwise i would bring the artifacts kain uses into this, also Sephiroth i have not seen do this any of the other times, it looks like one of those powers he uses once because the area is specific to the power in which case it woudl be invalid

but whatever it is, Sephiroth cannot do anything if Kain decides to just go to another dimension, OR pulls Sephiroth into another dimension. wins through BFR

Originally posted by Burning thought
well i dunno, i just need to know how it truly works, and if its actually his, something he always has or has access to whch are the rules, otherwise i would bring the artifacts kain uses into this, also Sephiroth i have not seen do this any of the other times, it looks like one of those powers he uses once because the area is specific to the power in which case it woudl be invalid

but whatever it is, Sephiroth cannot do anything if Kain decides to just go to another dimension, OR pulls Sephiroth into another dimension. wins through BFR

Okies found it, I'll for the interveiw itself later. But apparently it's his his power. Like when he brings down half the building in AC. Sephiroth as a power that extend beyond materia. His will can destroy things, and even prevent enemies from doing anything. In that clip, he is torturing them by nearly tearing apart their bodies. But holy interviens before he decides to actually do it.

Though i can't find to the extent of this power.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Okies found it, I'll for the interveiw itself later. But apparently it's his his power. Like when he brings down half the building in AC. Sephiroth as a power that extend beyond materia. His will can destroy things, and even prevent enemies from doing anything.

Though i can't find to the extent of this.

hmm it sounds like very powerful TK, that breaks buildings and what not

What say we call this undecideable or a draw, my head is spining. they both as so many powers this is just becoming damn confusing

Originally posted by EvilAngel
What say we call this undecideable or a draw, my head is spining. they both as so many powers this is just becoming damn confusing

hmm sure, at least between us two, i wont concede ofc if another poster posts something i can reply to but it is quite difficult to decide, especially with kain having so many powers taken away

Originally posted by Burning thought
hmm sure, at least between us two, i wont concede ofc if another poster posts something i can reply to but it is quite difficult to decide, especially with kain having so many powers taken away

Fair enough.

I hate it when power are taken away, well, unless it's like Ganondorf invunerablilty, unless it's somethnig that makes there only 1 possible winner.

But seriously if you going to strip them of so many powers you should find a different opponent.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Fair enough.

I hate it when power are taken away, well, unless it's like Ganondorf invunerablilty, unless it's somethnig that makes there only 1 possible winner.

But seriously if you going to strip them of so many powers you should find a different opponent.

i agree, but the i feel most of the KMC games versus has used most characters, i mean a lot of characters are dififcult to debate and others the board would not know of

i mean id like to put characters out of the game sacrifice in here but ime sure not many may have heard of it, its quite old

That game was awesome. never did play story. I always used to VS with my uncle. And always loose, but it was good fun.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
That game was awesome. never did play story. I always used to VS with my uncle. And always loose, but it was good fun.

ahh so there are others who have played Sacrifice, hmm, i love that game, i always dig it up now and then, some of the latest games out i play but when they start to slow down i always go find an older game and more often than not its Sacrifice 😄

loads of characters in it and monsters to put in Games VS, but ime not sure if there are many sites that have information on it

It is a bit of genius. It's liked an improved version of magic and mayhem.

Theres loads of games that are just awesome but for whatever reason never made it into the main stream, Like Sacrifice, Dungeon Keeper, damn i have loads, but now i come to thing of it, i can't ruddy remember them. might ask to borrow sacrifice now, i want to play it sweatdrop

Originally posted by EvilAngel
It is a bit of genius. It's liked an improved version of magic and mayhem.

Theres loads of games that are just awesome but for whatever reason never made it into the main stream, Like Sacrifice, Dungeon Keeper, damn i have loads, but now i come to thing of it, i can't ruddy remember them. might ask to borrow sacrifice now, i want to play it sweatdrop

😄 yes i enjoyed that M&M myself but indeed it did not have Sacrifices character and Sacrfices graphics were pretty okie at the time as well

Dungeon keeper ftw!! infact not many lower characters i bet would beat the Horned reaper, i think hes invulerable isnt he until he runs out of energy in the world

Originally posted by Burning thought
😄 yes i enjoyed that M&M myself but indeed it did not have Sacrifices character and Sacrfices graphics were pretty okie at the time as well

Dungeon keeper ftw!! infact not many lower characters i bet would beat the Horned reaper, i think hes invulerable isnt he until he runs out of energy in the world

Yeah, infact the graphic were awesome at the time, which is why i could never understand why it's not popular, mind i would have been a tad too immature to understand that at the time.

Horned Reaper was vicious, one hit anything bar the dark angels. Though he killed your men too, so really was a last defence. He does have a health bar is you posses your men, but 7 dark angels couldn't bring him down and died trying, so i doubt you can kill him before his time runs out.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Yeah, infact the graphic were awesome at the time, which is why i could never understand why it's not popular, mind i would have been a tad too immature to understand that at the time.

Horned Reaper was vicious, one hit anything bar the dark angels. Though he killed your men too, so really was a last defence. He does have a health bar is you posses your men, but 7 dark angels couldn't bring him down and died trying, so i doubt you can kill him before his time runs out.

hmm yeh good memeores of Dungeon keeper, both 1 and 2, i enjoyed them both, prob nostalga but i loved DK 1 most, but ime not sure it would work on XP or new systems

Originally posted by Burning thought
hmm yeh good memeores of Dungeon keeper, both 1 and 2, i enjoyed them both, prob nostalga but i loved DK 1 most, but ime not sure it would work on XP or new systems

Above anything though, i loved how you built the base etc. Easily better than build a barracks, spawn grunts, build farm, blah blah 😬

No it doesn't you need to set it so your system runs 98 or 95 when you play it. Even then it's prone to crashing every 15 minutes so you can't get a good game out of it 🙁

Ever since i went vista i can't even get that

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Above anything though, i loved how you built the base etc. Easily better than build a barracks, spawn grunts, build farm, blah blah 😬

No it doesn't you need to set it so your system runs 98 or 95 when you play it. Even then it's prone to crashing every 15 minutes so you can't get a good game out of it 🙁

Ever since i went vista i can't even get that

yes exactley, build this, then that, so samey, but with DK you had a unique way and diffrent rooms where creatures interacted..it wasnt just build 20 grunts and rush

hmm 🙁 i use XP thankfully, not updating to Vista until theres a greater number of games that run special for it, i know how fickle it can be with older games

Originally posted by Burning thought
yes exactley, build this, then that, so samey, but with DK you had a unique way and diffrent rooms where creatures interacted..it wasnt just build 20 grunts and rush

hmm 🙁 i use XP thankfully, not updating to Vista until theres a greater number of games that run special for it, i know how fickle it can be with older games

Yeah DK is unique with that. I still find myself hoping to see them making a new one when i read about future realises lol, i just can't let go 🙂

OMG, you have no idea, it took me 3 hours to find software so i could upload from my digital camera, 3 HOURS

🙁 hm i dont think ill Upgrade too soon thats for sure