Originally posted by Furion
He doesn't have to kill Kain, just defeat him.
how? how do you possibly defeat Kain if you were sephiroth?
Sephiroth tries TK....Kain becomes mist, teleports, and is likely faster or with better TK since Sephiroths from what ive seen holds bodies and his best takes both arms raised, Kain moves his hand, and Sephiroth is his puppet
Sephiroth tries any power to destroy kains body and he can reform, same with chopping, Kain gets parts of him dissolved, has his hear torn out and gets slashed by swords all day long, he doesnt barely notice half the time.
Kain has so many powers at his disposal, he could easily rip Sephiroth down with many numbers of powers, or protect himself
Originally posted by Furion
Ahem, Impalment and Water seem to take a toll on Vampires and such. Kain without Time CAN be defeated by Seph.
how?
also no, thats a common misconception, it took roughly 8000 years to melt Raziels jaw off and body skin parts, 8000 years!! Raziel woke up 10,000 years after his thrown in, but after 10,000 he was killed and reborn, but 8000 years, i dont see anyone keeping kain under water for 8000 years...
Originally posted by Furion
Sephiroth kicks Kain into the Lake of the Dead. and how do you heal your wounds if Seph's sword is still in there and is holding it in.
you dont, you simply mist and escape.....
and Sephiroths gonna hold his sword in? thats a clever move, then kain twiddles his finger and Sephiroth is TKed into the air...or a shield bubbles around him and Sephiroth is expelled
....the lake of the dead is not here...not that it would work...kain would mist
Originally posted by Burning thought
gameplay again? hell sephiroth has to w8 his turn before he gets to attack...lol, your using useless gameplay aint ya? your terrible Terry, you cannot hold a debate at all, even as your arguments shatter you still bring more gameplay, if this is gameplay kain VS sephiroth then Sephiroth loses because he has to w8 his turn....no they wouldnt be dead, hed kill one, then hed w8 as they all bash at him for his next turn lol......i dont belive you Terry, if you played the game youd see kain one hit kill them with his hands beforeno its not.....how is the dimentional teleportatoin the same as well? not a chance, infact we can see quick movement of teleportation in the video you posted, he fades in a second, please show me sephiroth moving say....hmm, a good few hundred metres in the time Kain does that? also no he does not have to cast any spell at all, as weve seen so your last statement is irrelvent.
it took a few seconds and he opened his arms to do so, ive watched that video many times, it took a second or two for him to do it and he had to move his arms wide, kain moves one hand, diffrence.....
kain cannot be destroyed, no he is not fvucked as you put it, he simply reforms and while sephiroth is messing about with that he ends up getting time bolted or Kain goes into another dimension, Sephrioth fails.....on so many levels, and so do you, think of their as a compliment to your fanboyism
Ok are you slow-minded? Or just dumb? Maybe u cant read?
FFS I JUST SHOWED U THAT HIS CINEMATIC TELEPORTING IS THE SAME AS HIS GAMEPLAY TELEPORTING
theyre both SLOW
open his arms? His arms was open the whole time, he just looked up and it started crashing down.
his time projectile crap is slow compared to sephiroth and his arms will get chopped off before he can even try to cast
Or Sephiroth flies in way up in the air, and summons the lifestream to pwn Kain, nothing he can do, maybe Kain will try climbing a wall or something.
Originally posted by Terryc250the rantings of a fanboy 😛
Ok are you slow-minded? Or just dumb? Maybe u cant read?FFS I JUST SHOWED U THAT HIS CINEMATIC TELEPORTING IS THE SAME AS HIS GAMEPLAY TELEPORTING
Originally posted by Terryc250
his time projectile crap is slow compared to sephiroth and his arms will get chopped off before he can even try to cast
Originally posted by Terryc250
Or Sephiroth flies in way up in the air, and summons the lifestream to pwn Kain, nothing he can do, maybe Kain will try climbing a wall or something.
Originally posted by MadMel
the rantings of a fanboy 😛and what would that accomplish?? kain reforms, stops time and soul blasts seph..
or, kain can mist, making the life stream completely useless..
no, frustration of talking to slow ppl
Kain cant even soul suck regular humans unless theyre dying, and kain cant "stop time"
lol Sephiroth with a gesture covered the all of the city Midgar almost instantly with the negative lifestream, the lifestream can destroy the planet, learn something before u say dumb things.
Originally posted by Terryc250
Ok are you slow-minded? Or just dumb? Maybe u cant read?FFS I JUST SHOWED U THAT HIS CINEMATIC TELEPORTING IS THE SAME AS HIS GAMEPLAY TELEPORTING
theyre both SLOW
open his arms? His arms was open the whole time, he just looked up and it started crashing down.
his time projectile crap is slow compared to sephiroth and his arms will get chopped off before he can even try to cast
Or Sephiroth flies in way up in the air, and summons the lifestream to pwn Kain, nothing he can do, maybe Kain will try climbing a wall or something.
its gameplay, its not the same, does he have the sword when he teleprots the last time? no, that disproves your theory earlier of him needing to do any kind of manouvre, he doesnt have to cast anything either to teleport
slow? takes the same time as sephiroths TK, so he is slow as well then, then we have to take into account youve not shown me ANY speed from sephiroth, throw up a video and the time to look for sephiroth moving instantly as you put it, and one showing me him moving over long distances like this
youve seen the time projectile? news to me, i doubt youve played the game at all, and if youve got a video, please post it, you dont even knwo how fast the projectile is
no maybe kain will just one hit sephiroth quite handily, or time power up and Sephiroth would be nothing to him
I swear it feels like im talking to a monkey here..
when i say "watch at (time)" it means put the video at the time i posted, ITS CINEMATIC (do you understand cinematic? it means its NOT gameplay) at some of the time i posted, and its just as SLOW as the gameplay
Ive shown you Loz' speed, Loz' is a character created by Sephiroth he is a weak aspect of Spehiroth, Sephrioth is like a hundred times superior so imagine how fast Sephiroth would be if he actually tried.
Ive asked ppl who played the game, and it is slow, how about you post a video of it?
Kain cant even one-hit regular humans that are slow as shit, heck regular humans block Kains attacks, Sephiroth will make quick work of Kain.
Originally posted by Terryc250
I swear it feels like im talking to a monkey here..
when i say "watch at (time)" it means put the video at the time i posted, ITS CINEMATIC (do you understand cinematic? it means its NOT gameplay) at some of the time i posted, and its just as SLOW as the gameplayIve shown you Loz' speed, Loz' is a character created by Sephiroth he is a weak aspect of Spehiroth, Sephrioth is like a hundred times superior so imagine how fast Sephiroth would be if he actually tried.
Ive asked ppl who played the game, and it is slow, how about you post a video of it?
Kain cant even one-hit regular humans that are slow as shit, heck regular humans block Kains attacks, Sephiroth will make quick work of Kain.
i didnt know you were talking to yourself?, i thought you were addressng me not yourself, sorry, seems ive been debating on my own, altho it feels like it with your endless rubbish
Loz? okie so we assume Sephiroth is faster, even though he has not shown it....wonderufl, also what video was Loz in, repost and state the time he moves quickly please
gameaply. ive asked loads of people on sephiroth, your talking rubbish as well it seems if you think i am......
gameplay...gameplay...more gameplay...sephiroth has to take turns in gameplay....Sephiroth w8s his turn and then has his head sliced off
Originally posted by Burning thought
i didnt know you were talking to yourself?, i thought you were addressng me not yourself, sorry, seems ive been debating on my own, altho it feels like it with your endless rubbishLoz? okie so we assume Sephiroth is faster, even though he has not shown it....wonderufl, also what video was Loz in, repost and state the time he moves quickly please
gameaply. ive asked loads of people on sephiroth, your talking rubbish as well it seems if you think i am......
gameplay...gameplay...more gameplay...sephiroth has to take turns in gameplay....Sephiroth w8s his turn and then has his head sliced off
No im talking to you, but i expected ur brain not to comprehend who i was talking to anyway.
Loz is a weak creation of Sephiroth, if you had any sense of logic, you would know obviously Sephiroth is faster.
watch 3:05(she didnt even have time to change her face expression)
YouTube video
watch at 2:35 (Cloud chops bike in half, Loz gets blasted, then speeds back at Cloud before Cloud even lands back on his bike)
YouTube video
Show me it out of gameplay? I've been waiting for DAYS now, so far what ive seen is cinematic and gameplay are basically the same in LoK.
Originally posted by Terryc250
No im talking to you, but i expected ur brain not to comprehend who i was talking to anyway.Loz is a weak creation of Sephiroth, if you had any sense of logic, you would know obviously Sephiroth is faster.
watch 3:05(she didnt even have time to change her face expression)
YouTube videowatch at 2:35 (Cloud chops bike in half, Loz gets blasted, then speeds back at Cloud before Cloud even lands back on his bike)
YouTube videoShow me it out of gameplay? I've been waiting for DAYS now, so far what ive seen is cinematic and gameplay are basically the same in LoK.
huh what? jibberish lad
obviously, just because Loz is weaker, Sephiroth is definatley faster..even without evidence, okie Kains a much stronger verson than all vampires in nosgoth, judging by that logic, he can survive any water, can go immaterial on a will like his son Malchiah, he can also has Raziels flight capability, yet....Raziel is the only one who has wings, but hey...Kain created him and Raziel is weaker than kain so meh....Kain must have all these powers NOT!, your logic fails, just because sephiroth is more powerful does not immediatley make him faster
their the great speed feats? same as what kain does basically when he mist dodges, or even if he does not mist he can move nearly as quick as that, if not on the edge of it, your simply overhyping sephiroth again, just because Loz is his creation Sephiroth can move so much faster even without proof, ill find the Vid of Kain moving equel to that in a min, you can go and find a vid of them moving over greater distance, teleportation can get you over great distances, all they are doing is moving...Sephiroth even going at twice that speed would first not know where kain has teleported to, you keep saying hel be at the spot, but what spot? Sephiroth does not have precog....and kain doesnt move, Sephiroth does but Kain disapears and can reapear
ill show you dimensiong, ive shown u that one alrdy, and that quick movement ,when he stabs raziel
Originally posted by Burning thought
huh what? jibberish ladobviously, just because Loz is weaker, Sephiroth is definatley faster..even without evidence, okie Kains a much stronger verson than all vampires in nosgoth, judging by that logic, he can survive any water, can go immaterial on a will like his son Malchiah, he can also has Raziels flight capability, yet....Raziel is the only one who has wings, but hey...Kain created him and Raziel is weaker than kain so meh....Kain must have all these powers NOT!, your logic fails, just because sephiroth is more powerful does not immediatley make him faster
their the great speed feats? same as what kain does basically when he mist dodges, or even if he does not mist he can move nearly as quick as that, if not on the edge of it, your simply overhyping sephiroth again, just because Loz is his creation Sephiroth can move so much faster even without proof, ill find the Vid of Kain moving equel to that in a min, you can go and find a vid of them moving over greater distance, teleportation can get you over great distances, all they are doing is moving...Sephiroth even going at twice that speed would first not know where kain has teleported to, you keep saying hel be at the spot, but what spot? Sephiroth does not have precog....and kain doesnt move, Sephiroth does but Kain disapears and can reapear
ill show you dimensiong, ive shown u that one alrdy, and that quick movement ,when he stabs raziel
The difference is Raziel has time to grow and become more powerful, how the hell can Sephiroth create Loz, and Loz instantly be faster then Sephiroth? Obviously AC Sephiroth doesnt have much speed feats because he was on screen for about 10 minutes and was just playing around with Cloud without even breaking a sweat, Sephiroth at his weakest form pwned a guy in about 3 minutes who was fast enough to dodge bullets from about 10 or more guys all firing machine guns at him, we never see Sephiroth exert himself, but if you use a bit of logic and a bit of common sense you can tell how fast he is at 100%
You mean the mist dodge where he moves about 2 feet? HAHA
Say whatever you want, until you can show me proof, stop replying saying "kain can do this and this blah blah"
Originally posted by Terryc250
The difference is Raziel has time to grow and become more powerful, how the hell can Sephiroth create Loz, and Loz instantly be faster then Sephiroth? Obviously AC Sephiroth doesnt have much speed feats because he was on screen for about 10 minutes and was just playing around with Cloud without even breaking a sweat, Sephiroth at his weakest form pwned a guy in about 3 minutes who was fast enough to dodge bullets from about 10 or more guys all firing machine guns at him, we never see Sephiroth exert himself, but if you use a bit of logic and a bit of common sense you can tell how fast he is at 100%You mean the mist dodge where he moves about 2 feet? HAHA
Say whatever you want, until you can show me proof, stop replying saying "kain can do this and this blah blah"
easily, why did Sephiroth create Loz, maybe he created him with that in mind, perhaps Sephiroth is actually fairly slow so he used his power to create a faster being, your assumption is as good as mine to why Loz could be faster, your simply asuming sephiroth is faster because he is overall stronger and more powerful. Dodge bullets? please show me this, its arguable that James bond can dodge bullets from multiple machine gun fire, but its not because hes typically fast........
if your using the old materia cracks and assumptions of how fast he should be at 100% then this is kain at 100%, kain has at his disposal the very concept of time, dimension and state.....with these concepts at his finger tips, using your logic and assumptions its not hard to imagine him simply stopping time on a whim, ripping a dimension since he has control over dimension itself and changing the state of sephiroth into whatever he wants, be it dead if need be...
yeh, its faster than sephiroth, Loz moves about 4/5 metres in the battle with Tifa (is it Tifa?), at the same time Kain would be unhittable by convential weaponry as well
what proof do you possilby need?
heres where he attacks Raizel in the form of Moebius, he moves as quick or quicker than Loz and Kain is not even trying, he is amused, so ill do a you, "imagine him if he was trying", look at 5:24
THATS UR PROOF? THATS THE UBER SPEED OF KAIN? U have to be joking.. all he did was turn around and cut a raziel then stab him, wtf even i can do that.
watch at 5:00 (Sephiroth at his weakest form pwned this guy in under 3 minutes with little effort)
YouTube video
No i assume Sephiroth is faster because Sephiroth gave him life and his powers.
Kain doesnt stop time, he shoots a projectile to freeze his enemies, ive been waiting ALL this damn time for you to show me all these claims and this is what you show me...?