Superman vs. Wonder Woman

Originally posted by Delta1938
Before the Amazons became immortal, they were enslaved by Herakles. The gods freed them on the condition they did not retaliate. They broke their end of the bargain. The Amazons were meant to be punished being banished on Paradise Island. Half the tribe decided to continue going after Herakles and his men(under command of Hippolyta's sister, can't remember her name), the other half took their "punishment" and became immortal on Paradise Island. The Amazons that left weren't immortal, but still survived to the present day, making a city(named "Bana-Mighdall"😉 in the Middle East(and ended-up worshiping a number of different goddesses from pagan religions through-out the Middle East). So, yeah, considering those Amazons weren't immortal, but survived to the present day.....how do you think they stuck around as a tribe? Oh and Artemis is a member of them. Also, for a while, Wonder Woman thought Herakles was her father and her mom lied to her about her birth and powers.

Ah, yes. I remember now. I remembering reading that stuff years ago. Thanks for refreshing my memory.

Originally posted by Kamahamaha
Sure I read the Kingdom.

Wonder if that ability has been lost in the DCNU

Ah, yes. The sequel to "Kingdom Come", correct? I've never read "The Kingdom". Are u sure it's canon?

Originally posted by Kamahamaha
Yeah, good reversal take on the classic man of steel, woman of Kleenex take, be it intentional or not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_of_Steel,_Woman_of_Kleenex

Larry Niven would be proud, later dude!

Ya know, I actually have made that point before, but it slipped my mind this time.

Unless they've recently changed her origin I'm pretty sure she was formed from Clay thus it would be "magical". I know they often change details of a character's origins in reboots and stuff but that would be a pretty big change if they did. I haven't read any comics that've come out in the last few years so it's certainly possible they could've changed it.

Originally posted by Star428
Unless they've recently changed her origin I'm pretty sure she was formed from Clay thus it would be "magical". I know they often change details of a character's origins in reboots and stuff but that would be a pretty big change if they did. I haven't read any comics that've come out in the last few years so it's certainly possible they could've changed it.

With the reboot they changed it. Unless they've changed it back since then. Someone who's read WW can enlighten us, hopefully.

Originally posted by carver9
Except she has done things that he hasn't displayed yet.

Oh, yeah? Like what exactly? Deflecting bullets? Dodging laser beams? Superman has actually caught many bullets being fired at him with his bare hands and has dodged all kind of energy attacks on many occasions. There's many more things he's done than she hasn't displayed yet than vice-versa. Has Diana ever dodged and outraced Darkseid's OE? Superman has. Are you sure you wanna start comparing feats between the two them? Even if you just count speed feats and/or reflex/reaction feats his are much more numerous and impressive.

Originally posted by -Pr-
With the reboot they changed it. Unless they've changed it back since then. Someone who's read WW can enlighten us, hopefully.

Wrong Wonder Woman. 😛 Hey, triple W!!

Originally posted by Star428
Oh, yeah? Like what exactly? Deflecting bullets? Dodging laser beams? Superman has actually caught many bullets being fired at him with his bare hands and has dodged all kind of energy attacks on many occasions. There's many more things he's done than she hasn't displayed yet than vice-versa. Has Diana ever dodged and outraced Darkseid's OE? Superman has. Are you sure you wanna start comparing feats between the two them? Even if you just count speed feats and/or reflex/reaction feats his are much more numerous and impressive.

Slapped heat vision out of the air like candy, something Superman has not done (look at his Zod fights). No one has better reflexes than Diana minus the Flashes. She is by far one of the hard beings to hit with energy attacks. Hell, any attack.

Originally posted by carver9
Slapped heat vision out of the air like candy, something Superman has not done (look at his Zod fights). No one has better reflexes than Diana minus the Flashes. She is by far one of the hard beings to hit with energy attacks. Hell, any attack.

Oh, please. Give Superman some magical bracelets and he could do it far easier than she could. You're an idiot if you think she's got faster reflexes than him.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Wrong Wonder Woman. 😛 Hey, triple W!!

I thought we were talking about DCNU for a minute.

Originally posted by carver9
Slapped heat vision out of the air like candy, something Superman has not done (look at his Zod fights). No one has better reflexes than Diana minus the Flashes. She is by far one of the hard beings to hit with energy attacks. Hell, any attack.

really, the whole "he doesn't parry things" defence? We both know that's a weak-ass argument, but go on, peddle it anyway.

it won't get you anywhere.

Originally posted by Star428
Oh, please. Give Superman some magical bracelets and he could do it far easier than she could. You're an idiot if you think she's got faster reflexes than him.

Even without the bracers she's dodged a barrage of heat vision point blank, it's what she does. Doesn't have a thing to do with her bracers.

Originally posted by carver9
Slapped heat vision out of the air like candy, something Superman has not done (look at his Zod fights). No one has better reflexes than Diana minus the Flashes. She is by far one of the hard beings to hit with energy attacks. Hell, any attack.

It ever occur to you that she dodges/deflects so much because she NEEDS to and he typically doesn't worry about that sort of thing like she does, so he wouldn't do what she does normally? I vaguely recall him using reflective lead glass to deflect a bunch of blasts from Kryptonite Man in a manner kinda like what you're arguing. After getting hit by the blasts prior.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I thought we were talking about DCNU for a minute.

really, the whole "he doesn't parry things" defence? We both know that's a weak-ass argument, but go on, peddle it anyway.

it won't get you anywhere.

Nothing against Clark, Diana just has the best reflexes out of 'any' Herald imo.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I thought we were talking about DCNU for a minute.

Ya see WHY I make drunk jokes about you? sneer

Originally posted by Delta1938
It ever occur to you that she dodges/deflects so much because she NEEDS to and he typically doesn't worry about that sort of thing like she does, so he wouldn't do what she does normally? I vaguely recall him using reflective lead glass to deflect a bunch of blasts from Kryptonite Man in a manner kinda like what you're arguing. After getting hit by the blasts prior.

of course he does, because we've been down this road before. he just recycles arguments every few months hoping nobody remembers the last time he was beaten.

Originally posted by carver9
Nothing against Clark, Diana just has the best reflexes out of 'any' Herald imo.

lol, don't pretend you aren't biased.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Ya see WHY I make drunk jokes about you? sneer

hey, it seemed like that was where the conversation was going.

Originally posted by Delta1938
It ever occur to you that she dodges/deflects so much because she NEEDS to and he typically doesn't worry about that sort of thing like she does, so he wouldn't do what she does normally? I vaguely recall him using reflective lead glass to deflect a bunch of blasts from Kryptonite Man in a manner kinda like what you're arguing. After getting hit by the blasts prior.

But Superman needs to dodge them as well. It's not like he tanks them head of. They cause him significant damage to the point of going straight through him.

Originally posted by -Pr-
of course he does, because we've been down this road before. he just recycles arguments every few months hoping nobody remembers the last time he was beaten.

Don't remember us debating on Wonder Woman reflexes being the best.

Originally posted by carver9
Don't remember us debating on Wonder Woman reflexes being the best.

sure you don't.

and i'm sure you don't remember the amount of times you've tried to play her reflexes off as slow compared to other heralds so that it would reflect badly on Superman.

Originally posted by carver9
But Superman needs to dodge them as well. It's not like he tanks them head of. They cause him significant damage to the point of going straight through him.

Superman tries to tank almost everything. We've been through this before.

Originally posted by -Pr-
of course he does, because we've been down this road before. he just recycles arguments every few months hoping nobody remembers the last time he was beaten.

hey, it seemed like that was where the conversation was going.

You're giving Kitty-Kat too much credit.

Yeah, uh huh, SUUUUUUUUUUUURE. sneer

Originally posted by carver9
But Superman needs to dodge them as well. It's not like he tanks them head of. They cause him significant damage to the point of going straight through him.

I'd tell you to "stop playing dumb," but, well, ya know.

Originally posted by carver9
Except she has done things that he hasn't displayed yet.

Originally posted by carver9
Slapped heat vision out of the air like candy, something Superman has not done (look at his Zod fights). No one has better reflexes than Diana minus the Flashes. She is by far one of the hard beings to hit with energy attacks. Hell, any attack.

This the type of thing you're looking for Kitty-Kat?