Do the Marvel and Dc multiverses exist within the same creation?

Started by starlock31 pages

Originally posted by starlock
Hey there why dont you go right now and check out that great site for info...Why everyone who is interested should go there and check out the info..go to the bottom of the page...here is a quick link...this is your site that cant be edited so, i know you will take the info that is NOW up on the site as proof
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Marvel_Universe

Go all the way to the bottom and see what is there now, i eagerly await a response for this one.....

This should is the end of this debate,i would think that even Mr Master has the savy to admit a loss in this case

how can this be overlooked? i will quote it for all of us

"Clarification of terms "multiverse," "megaverse," and "Omniverse"
Multiverse refers to a group of related realities, usually those sharing the same high-ranking cosmic entities (Eternity for example).

Megaverse refers to a larger group of realities, usually including partial and whole multiverses, which may be considered in some way "closer" to one another, thus making travel between them somewhat easier than between realities not within the same megaverse.

Omniverse is EVERY reality, including those published by other companies"

And that is at the bottom of this page
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Marvel_Universe

How can this be debated?....btw i cant wait for the new handbook i have a feeling omniverse will be further clarified, with this information

Originally posted by starlock
how can this be overlooked? i will quote it for all of us

How can this be debated

Wellllllllllllllll

Ok once again 😱

Originally posted by id369
I believe Mr. Master is following this notation.
The debate is in and of itself not a method of generating truth, it is a method of generating agreement. Which is why rhetoric is a useful tool in a debate, because its not about truth... ever its about being convincing, something that is accomplished by informational control manipulation and interpretation. - Pipboy

I'm in love with this quote droolio

The only reason such resistance is being seen is because if he owns up to how crackpot his crackpot theories are, then everyone will realise his hierarchy thread is concentrated bullshit

😆

Bravado and brash talk will not be allowed to compensate for a non existent argument.

At least not in my threads 🙂

Repost upon repost will not be allowed to cover up the parts of the thread where i'm shiting on his efforts.

Without the aid of sock accounts, insults and reposts there is nothing left but desperation.

He'll run away for a few days, come back and start reposting again, hoping all is forgotten 😱

I'm outta here. 5 hours ahead remember!! 😱

Look forward to continuing this pointless exercise tomorrow.

Continue the search Emmie, i'm rooting for ya! 😆

From Marvel.com:

Multiverse refers to a group of related realities, usually those sharing the same high-ranking cosmic entities (Eternity for example).

Megaverse refers to a larger group of realities, usually including partial and whole multiverses, which may be considered in some way "closer" to one another, thus making travel between them somewhat easier than between realities not within the same megaverse.

Omniverse is EVERY reality, including those published by other companies.

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Marvel_Universe

Sorry i couldn't resist.

Just waiting to hear how this doesn't count, how this is edited by fans and yet somehow his quotes from Marvel.com (which he's posted here 10,000 times) are still very relevant

Goodnight folks 😂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Wellllllllllllllll

Ok once again 😱
Originally posted by id369
I believe Mr. Master is following this notation.
The debate is in and of itself not a method of generating truth, it is a method of generating agreement. Which is why rhetoric is a useful tool in a debate, because its not about truth... ever its about being convincing, something that is accomplished by informational control manipulation and interpretation. - Pipboy

I'm in love with this quote droolio

I think a new sig with that quote might not be a bad idea 😄

It is really a shame that the debate is over and has been since page3
and yet scan after scan with no usefull information is being posted

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Expecting a lack of an official statement and anticipating the mother of all reposts

Expecting a lack of ability of seeing beyond one's own nose ,
and anticipating the father of all fallacies to continue to bring shame to his name.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Best quote on KMC:

Originally posted by Air Legend
Damn GS, Maybe you are worst than nvrbeenwthagirl.

👆 Definitely,

Nvr was clueless and debated anyways making himself look ridiculous,
but this dude knows the truth and still you get nothing but bangin

That's not just intransigence, that's agenda minded aswell.
One purpose beneath that curtain of deception,
demean Omniversal feats that the fiery bird could only dream of accomplishing.

👆 😆 (that was easy)

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Come on Emmie, what u got for me?!!

Besides a plethora of 2007
and 2008 Official Marvel Handbook Bios (Glossary of terms) .. ?

Or are you referring to
the insurmountable amount of On Panel depictions of the Marvel Omniverse?

Originally posted by Kerr Avon
You might want to recheck that bio.
It states that other companys realities are part of the omniverse.

😆

Wow, what ultimate deception, that wasn't there yesterday,
now today, mysteriously and coincidentally while this debate is at it's high,
info suddenly appears to appease the Liar/Troll and Socks.

Well, since evidently info can be manipulated over at Marvel.com

I will never again use that as a reference.

Although 99% of my evidence comes from On Panel Marvel Comics
and Official handbook Bios (2006/2007/2008)

Next. 🙂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

I love how you keep quoting Galans initial support of your officially rejected opinion from page 1,
especially when he later looked into the matter
and from page 2 onwards dismissed your crackpot theories


Still lying ey?

Can help yourself Pino?

I will PM Galan, then we'll expose you for what you are, a liar

Anywho:

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Galan (a true debater) shut this thread down before he needed to find irrifutable evidence,
that Marvel possess an Omniverse that consist of "Infinite MultiverseS"

Originally posted by Galan
One could say that the whole of Marvel = an Omniverse, and the whole of DC = an Omniverse,

and these two Omniverses can exist together at certain times,

[ie. when crossovers occur],

to form a greater Omniverse,

[which follows the 'greater levels of infinity' concept in comics]....

But I wouldn't say that they are perma-linked to the same general creation,

ALL of the time -- or else you'd have Marvel characters affecting DC, and vice versa..

Would that make sense? ❌

I refuse to believe Roma can destroy Universes in DC with the CN,
and that Superman saved DC AND Marvel by vibrating. 😬


✅ Below is my point of view, based on his sensible post.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Which is precisely why they have their separate Omniverses,
where one can never influence the other.

Only in consonant cross-overs,
are the Two realities ever of any significance to each other,
this significance of course, remains contained withIN the cross-over.

👆 ... nuff said.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
That wouldn't surprise me

Why would it, you made it the norm around here since back in the day:

Deliberately by GS:

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I forgot to mention how Xmen Forever clearly depicts

how one wielding the phoenix power

becomes supreme over creation.

With enough power to humble LT even

Read what he says above,

his intention was to show LT bowing to Jean.

The Stranger was completely cut out and NEVER mentioned.

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Here is the REAL Scan, untarnished.

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😆 (you've been warned potna, you play yourself, your card will be pulled)

You wanna keep posting id's gobbledygook, I'll post this everythime. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
Why would it, you made it the norm around here since back in the day:

Deliberately by GS:

Read what he says above,

his intention was to show LT bowing to Jean.

The Stranger was completely cut out and NEVER mentioned.

.....................................................................................

Here is the REAL Scan, untarnished.

.....................................................................................

😆 (you've been warned potna, you play yourself, your card will be pulled)

You wanna keep posting id's gobbledygook, I'll post this everythime. 🙂

You actually want to play the"lets find all the old post that make you look bad" thing? i thought with your history that you would not resort to that type of debate....because i know first hand what you are capable of and have been in the past

Hey master that site was updated because of this debate...when the writer for the handbooks saw this and made an update....dont like it? maybe when a new handbook comes out ssometime in the future and it says the same thing, what will you do then? stop using the official handbooks?

Originally posted by starlock

You actually want to play the"lets find all the old post that make you look bad" thing?
i thought with your history that you would not resort to that type of debate....
because i know first hand what you are capable of and have been in the past


Dude, are you ever gonna give being my personal Troll a rest?
Jeesh, get a life and mind your business.

This is between GS and I,
not between GS/the Troll and I.

That clown keeps presenting a post by id hating on me,
(from ANOTHER thread, completely inconsequential to this debate)

It's just a ploy to try and make me look bad, cause id stated some gibberish about me.

So I'm not allowed to do the same?

This once again proves to me,
you're a Troll of the worst kind. (hypocrite style)

Originally posted by starlock
Hey master that site was updated because of this debate...
when the writer for the handbooks saw this and made an update....dont like it?

😆 ... You mean yourself?

Nice editing btw, I guess you were right after all,
you can edit at Marvel.com if you're a member.

Originally posted by starlock
maybe when a new handbook comes out ssometime in the future and it says the same thing,
what will you do then? stop using the official handbooks?

When the Official Handbooks makes an UPDATED statement
that contradicts what they themselves have published,
I'll concede.

Until then:

....................................................................................

Where do you think that 2005 entry is from?

(GLOSSARY of Terms 2005)

NOWWWWWWWW!!!!

=======WHERE IS MY 2007 AND 2008 ENTRYS COMING FROM? ======

Winter (2007) Official Marvel Handbooks (Glossary of Terms)

ALSO ... clearly confirms,

Marvel Official Handbook Glossary of terms - Winter 2007

.............................................................................................................

+++++++ Is his Glossary of terms more legit than mine?

Although mine is from Winter 2007 while his is from 2005. ++++++++

I guess that's the way it is to a biased eye. 🙂

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1. Omniverse

2. TOAA

1. "Group of alternate universeS which encompasses ALL Reality"

2. The entity believed to be the Supreme being/Creator of the Omniverse"

.....................................................................................................

Unless TOAA Created DC the "real World" and all other verseS in other companies,
Marvel MUST have their own Omniverse.

If you admit that TOAA created DC every other company plus the "Real World" (us)

I'll concede.

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yawn

Originally posted by starlock
I think a new sig with that quote might not be a bad idea

Can't stop Trolling can ya?

What a hater.

Originally posted by starlock
It is really a shame that the debate is over and has been since page3
and yet scan after scan with no usefull information is being posted

"Debate?" ...

I'm still wating for you to add even one piece of significance to this debate,
except for being GS' sock, or the swing in his nuts.

Well you did edit info at Marvel.com to suit GS's case.
but unfortunately, you played yourself
by suggesting the "Handbook Writers saw this debate" and decided to act. 😆

I mean, can even you resist laughing at this.

Anywho, that info wasn't there yesterday on my link,
but today, coincidentally it is. hm

The explanation also is obviously catered specifically to this debate, 😂
and beyond that, the explanation itself is simplistic and empty.

Also sugggesting that who ever edited that page,
did it with a sole purpose using cheesy grammer.

Nice try duke.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Dude, are you ever gonna give being my personal Troll a rest?
Jeesh, get a life and mind your business.

This is between GS and I,
not between GS/the Troll and I.

That clown keeps presenting a post by id hating on me,
(from ANOTHER thread, completely inconsequential to this debate)

It's just a ploy to try and make me look bad, cause id stated some gibberish about me.

So I'm not allowed to do the same?

This once again proves to me,
you're a Troll of the worst kind. (hypocrite style)

😆 ... You mean yourself?

Nice editing btw, I guess you were right after all,
you can edit at Marvel.com if you're a member.

When the Official Handbooks makes an UPDATED statement
that contradicts what they themselves have published,
I'll concede.

Until then:

....................................................................................

Where do you think that 2005 entry is from?

(GLOSSARY of Terms 2005)

NOWWWWWWWW!!!!

=======WHERE IS MY 2007 AND 2008 ENTRYS COMING FROM? ======

Winter (2007) Official Marvel Handbooks ([B]Glossary of Terms)

ALSO ... clearly confirms,

Marvel Official Handbook Glossary of terms - Winter 2007

.............................................................................................................

+++++++ Is his Glossary of terms more legit than mine?

Although mine is from Winter 2007 while his is from 2005. ++++++++

I guess that's the way it is to a biased eye. 🙂

.............................................................................................................

1. Omniverse

2. TOAA

1. "Group of alternate universeS which encompasses ALL Reality"

2. The entity believed to be the Supreme being/Creator of the Omniverse"

.....................................................................................................

Unless TOAA Created DC the "real World" and all other verseS in other companies,
Marvel MUST have their own Omniverse.

If you admit that TOAA created DC every other company plus the "Real World" (us)

I'll concede.

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yawn [/B]

Sorry you and G.S go on instant messenger for all i care....you and he post here....i get to say what i want within the rules set forth....too bad

You want to keep calling me your personel troll...go ahead...i post in numerous threads,unlike you who always look to put down the phoenix and post in threads that threaten your hierarchy, i am sure the mods know the truth, and i bet your just getting a little to egotistical for your own good

Hey remember when you posted a scan of onslaught crushing the phoenix...like a candle i think you said hehe, when after you were called on it and tried to cover up your mistake... was it lol, you admited you never read the issue...so you let your anger and hatred get the better of you....like you have done here...

The only one who edited that site was the writer for the handbooks,I happen to join there site since actual creators participate in the threads and guess what its a good site,the writer mind you was the one who told me to go to the site, and i beieve he also said that the new hanbook(not sure which one) would have a clarification of the omniverse. So i would start looking for better excuses and stop threatening posters with your brand of justice...i like to play that game if you remember..and i have lots of ammo

Why cant you just admit it? there is only one omniverse.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Can't stop Trolling can ya?

What a hater.

"Debate?" ...

I'm still wating for you to add even one piece of significance to this debate,
except for being GS' sock, or the swing in his nuts.

Well you did edit info at Marvel.com to suit GS's case.
but unfortunately, you played yourself
by suggesting the "Handbook Writers saw this debate" and decided to act. 😆

I mean, can even you resist laughing at this.

Anywho, that info wasn't there yesterday on my link,
but today, coincidentally it is. hm

The explanation also is obviously catered specifically to this debate, 😂
and beyond that, the explanation itself is simplistic and empty.

Also sugggesting that who ever edited that page,
did it with a sole purpose using cheesy grammer.

Nice try duke.

Now all you did was get yourself reported...or do you want the thread to be closed? i would think you do want it closed ,for obvious reasons, learn some manners Duke

And to top it off you embarassed yourself, and you did it all alone, it is true about the writer,maybe you should use your knowledge and do some investigating, i am sure if you go thru the last pages you can find links and such..maybe even join that site and find out yourself?

Keep digging a hole for yourself 🙂

Originally posted by starlock
Sorry you and G.S go on instant messenger for all i care....you and he post here....i get to say what i want within the rules set forth....too bad

No doubt, continue Trolling then.
Originally posted by starlock
You want to keep calling me your personel troll...go ahead...

I don't want to, it's a fact.

You chase me around the forum looking for any opportunity to disagree with me,
and swing on GS' nuts.

Did you agree with me on the HOM Wanda debate, about her warping 616?

No you did not,
although Marvel itself finally stomped the fallacy that Wanda had only warped Earth.

I didn't see you dancing once that came to light,
but let there be any allusion that Mr Master is wrong
and you'l be the first in line to shout it out.

That's a hypocritical Troll at work.

Originally posted by starlock
i post in numerous threads,unlike you who always look to put down the phoenix

Nah, I always look to be honest about the Phoenix.

Only one time I been wrong concerning Phoenix (that was the Onslaught case)

Originally posted by starlock
and post in threads that threaten your hierarchy

Gibberish.

Originally posted by starlock
i am sure the mods know the truth

More gibberish, I challenge you to get them to say so.
Originally posted by starlock
and i bet your just getting a little to egotistical for your own good

And I bet you're just getting a little Trollish for your own bad.
Originally posted by starlock
Hey remember when you posted a scan of onslaught crushing the phoenix...like a candle i think you said hehe, when after you were called on it and tried to cover up your mistake... was it lol, you admited you never read the issue...so you let your anger and hatred get the better of you....like you have done here...

Gibberish, and addressed.

That's all you ever come back to.
(let thgat go already son, I haven't brought up Phoenix/Onslaught in literally a year)

Originally posted by starlock
The only one who edited that site was the writer for the handbooks,
I happen to join there site since actual creators participate in the threads
and guess what its a good site,
the writer mind you was the one who told me to go to the site

Whoever edited that page conveniently while this debate is at hand, is wrong.
If not wrong, then on drugs,
if not on drugs,
then it's simply an idiot,
if not an idiot, then they are contradicting a plethora of On Panel and Updated Bios.
Originally posted by starlock
and i beieve he also said that the new hanbook(not sure which one)
would have a clarification of the omniverse.

Yea, well, we'll see.
Originally posted by starlock
So i would start looking for better excuses

Gibberish.

The instant an Official Handbook claims that other companies share the Marvel Omniverse,
I will simply jump for joy.

Because that means a host of Marvel characters can
and HAVE destroyed ALL the Comic Book companies.

"Threaten my hierarchy?" ... 😆

More like boost it to unheard of levels.

Originally posted by starlock
and stop threatening posters with your brand of justice...

I'll do whatever I like with GS, so mind your business,
be a man, not a biatch that enjoys gossip and the fuel of childish bickering.

Aren't you 36 or 37 .. sad.

Originally posted by starlock
i like to play that game if you remember..and i have lots of ammo

Do your worst Troll. (I mean, that's your purpose here anyways)

Go and find the Onslaught comedy. who

Originally posted by starlock
Why cant you just admit it? there is only one omniverse.

Cool,

and HOM Wanda re-created that one Omniverse.

The Aliens of the Exiles issue, damaged that entire one Omniverse.

The Alien Entity erased and re-made that one Omniverse.

Celestial Guardians can erase DC and any other company.

Thanos absorbed and re-created that one Omniverse.

Genis/Entropy erased and re-created that one Omniverse.

Jim Jaspers was going to destroy that one Omniverse (TWICE)

The LT spins the destiny of that one Omniverse in one hand.

Just a few exmaples ... but best of all ...

TOAA CREATED that one Omniverse.

So basically TOAA Cretaed US ... crazy ...

That's right folks, we were Created by a fictional comic book character. 😆

Originally posted by Mr Master

When the Official Handbooks makes an UPDATED statement
that contradicts what they themselves have published,
I'll concede.

Until then:

....................................................................................

Where do you think that 2005 entry is from?

(GLOSSARY of Terms 2005)

NOWWWWWWWW!!!!

=======WHERE IS MY 2007 AND 2008 ENTRYS COMING FROM? ======

Winter (2007) Official Marvel Handbooks (Glossary of Terms)

ALSO ... clearly confirms,

Marvel Official Handbook Glossary of terms - Winter 2007

.............................................................................................................

+++++++ Is his Glossary of terms more legit than mine?

Although mine is from Winter 2007 while his is from 2005. ++++++++

I guess that's the way it is to a biased eye. 🙂

.............................................................................................................

1. Omniverse

2. TOAA

1. "Group of alternate universeS which encompasses ALL Reality"

2. The entity believed to be the Supreme being/Creator of the Omniverse"

.....................................................................................................

Unless TOAA Created DC the "real World" and all other verseS in other companies,
Marvel MUST have their own Omniverse.

If you admit that TOAA created DC every other company plus the "Real World" (us)

I'll concede.

.....................................................................................................

yawn

Originally posted by starlock
Now all you did was get yourself reported...

Oooh, I'm so frightened ... that you wanna sik the mods on me for defending myself.

Did you remember to metion to the Mods your request to GS?

Originally posted by starlock
I think a new sig with that quote might not be a bad idea

Hypocrite!
Originally posted by starlock
or do you want the thread to be closed?
i would think you do want it closed ,
for obvious reasons

Could care less, this is a dumb debate .. so gibberish again.
Originally posted by starlock
learn some manners Duke

Soon as you stop Trolling after me. 🙂
Originally posted by starlock
And to top it off you embarassed yourself, and you did it all alone,
it is true about the writer,
maybe you should use your knowledge and do some investigating,
i am sure if you go thru the last pages you can find links and such..
maybe even join that site and find out yourself?

Poor fella is still stuck in 2005.
Originally posted by starlock
Keep digging a hole for yourself

Gibberish.

I found this in the Terms and Conditions at Marvel.com

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Right to Monitor and Editorial Control.

Marvel reserves the right, but does not have an obligation,
to monitor and/or review all materials posted to the Web Site
or through the Web Site’s services or features by users,
and Marvel is not responsible for any such materials posted by users.

😆

Really reliable, dur
jeesh, I should've been more thorough,
never though Marvel.com was a joke.

That site just met a boycott.

stoned