Eternity 616 or any other single Universe,
has NEVER in the history of Marvel been referred to as a Multiverse.I challenge you to prove me wrong.
OKAY!!! 😱
Captain Marvel V4 #5
Entropy talks of how in order to grow, a son must reject his father, he calls it a universal constant.
Genis at the time not realizing who and what Entropy is questions why must the fact that Entropy rejected his father prove that to be a universal constant:
Entropy shows Genis who his father is and it is none other than Eternity who is referred to as a universe:
Captain Marvel v4 #6
Eternity is still referred to as universe and yet in the summary this same Eternity is said to be a multiverse:
In the Defenders title from 2005, Nightmare talks of how Dormammu and his sister hate everyone in the universe more than they hate each other:
Nightmare talks of how they have united and that it is up to Dr Strange to save the universe:
Dormammu talks of how the laws of the universe have changed allowing his plans to come to fruition:
On more than one occasion:
Umar using the references multiverse and universe to reference the same thing, she talks of how the plan is to conquer the multiverse, but then wishes she could it all on her own but she can’t she needs Dormammu to conquer the universe:
Dormammu and Umar acting out their plan to conquer the multiverse using Dr Strange’s Amulet of Agamotto:
They are taken to Eternity 616
After defeating Eternity, they intend to immerse themselves in his essence to absorb his power and remold him. Umar talks of how now they have defeated him they will remold the universe
Dormammu steps into Eternity 616’s being and finds many universes/dimensions:
Eternity 616 according to this title is composed of more than one dimension, in fact whole other universes are summed up in Eternity 616.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Wow, so again you're going to LIE about the Beyonder scan, unbelievable!Beyonder passes by the [B]Microverse
.
(located in a Universe outside and separate from the 616 Reality)The Dark Dimension is also outside of 616.
Beyonder even reaches the Cross Roads of Infinity located in the Negative Zone
(also located Way outside the 616 universe)......................................................................................
I dare you to ask me to PROVE,
the Microverse is located OUTSIDE the 616 Reality,
in a completely separate Universe re-created by the Makers.I dare you to ask me to PROVE,
the Negative Zone is OUTSIDE the 616 reality.
(I can use plenty of scans from the 2007 Annihilation arc to do so easily,
Or I can use PROOF from back in the days .. whatever you prefer)I dare you to ask me to PROVE the Dark Dimension is a Universe unto itself,
also located OUTSIDE the 616 reality.......................................................................................
I have the scans ready ... but I'm gonna wait to see if you dare.
Yea, when you twist what's on panel to suit your case, it makes sense.
But try and keep it honest, see what happens.
Again, please, I dare you. (I wanna show the onlookers what we're dealing with here)
Doesn't explain jack.
Cause your post is built on a ... ah, I'll be nice and call it a mis-interpretation,
but uh, you're to smart to mis-interpret the Beyonder scenerio,
so we know what's going on ... but I'll be nice. [/B]
Oh you silly boy. Silly silly boy.
You’ve completely missed the point. I never misinterpreted anything.
That’s precisely my point. Places like the Dark Dimension and the Negative ARE dimensions unto themselves, thank you for highlighting that point. But despite that each alternate reality in Marvel has its own versions of these dimensions to go alongside the main alternate reality. 😬
As seen in Ultimate Fantastic Four, alternate realities are coupled with their own versions of the Negative Zone:
“You’re from Ultraspace the universe above ours”
So in Dr Stranges exploration of THE MULTIVERSE(singular), when he stated that dimensions are universes and that some universes are composed of many dimensions, this is exactly what he was talking about.
Each of 616’s counterparts has their own versions of the Dark Dimension, the Negative Zone, Asgard, Mephistos realm, and whilst these are dimensions unto themselves they are tied to the main dimension by a common cosmic hierarchy. That is why these alternate universes and their own versions of these side dimensions are grouped together as a cluster.
This explains why LT is generally said to be judge and guardian in the majority of on panel accounts and ALL bios, but why in one account he’s said to survey the multiverses and in the other one you presented that there are multiverses in Marvel.
My interpretation reconciles the use of the term multiverse AND multiverses and is supported on panel and in bios.
YOUR interpretation has little support on panel, NO support in bios and cannot reconcile the fact that in the majority of accounts LT is said to survey just the multiverse.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Then it's matter of what you rank highest the On Panel ore the handbook.
But when all bios reflect what the majority of on panel accounts state then its pretty much conclusive 😬
The term "multiverses" can be reconciled with my interpretation, my interpretation is what the majority of on panel accounts say with regards to LT and its what ALL of the bios say.
Mr Masters has no such support and his interpretation can't account for the majority of continuity even AFTER the 90's publication date of his evidence stating that LT guards and surveys A MULTIVERSE
Can't you post normal scans dude, these over-sized joints are annoying.
Originally posted by GalacticStormCaptain Marvel V4 #5
Eternity is still referred to as universe and yet in the summary this same Eternity is said to be a multiverse:
That was the Multiverse they erased.
Why because the Microverse was erased as well.
I'll prove it in a sec.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
In the Defenders title from 2005, Nightmare talks of how Dormammu and his sister hate everyone in the [B]universe more than they hate each other:Nightmare talks of how they have united and that it is up to Dr Strange to save the universe:
Dormammu talks of how the laws of the universe have changed allowing his plans to come to fruition:
On more than one occasion:
Umar using the references multiverse and universe to reference the same thing, she talks of how the plan is to conquer the multiverse, but then wishes she could it all on her own but she can’t she needs Dormammu to conquer the universe:
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Dormammu and Umar acting out their plan to conquer the multiverse using Dr Strange’s Amulet of Agamotto:They are taken to Eternity 616
After defeating Eternity, they intend to immerse themselves in his essence to absorb his power and remold him. Umar talks of how now they have defeated him they will remold the universe
Dormammu steps into Eternity 616’s being and finds many universes/dimensions:
Eternity 616 according to this title is composed of more than one dimension, in fact whole other universes are summed up in Eternity 616.
In a sec, you'l see why.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
You have What If vol2 #37There are alternate versions of both Limbo and the Dark Dimension
And, let's keep silly diverged "What If" issues out of here please,
let's stick real comics shall we.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
So not only does 616 have these pocket dimensions,
but alternate realities have their own versions.
It shall be proven.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
[B]As seen in Ultimate Fantastic Four, alternate realities are coupled with their own versions of the Negative Zone:“You’re from Ultraspace the universe above ours”
And what does "Ultraspace" have to do with the Negative Zone anyway?
Meh, I'll prove the Negative Zone is located OUTSIDe 616 as well.
Or did you not read Annihilation to remind you of a most recent arc?
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
So in Dr Stranges exploration of THE MULTIVERSE(singular), when he stated that dimensions are universes and that some universes are composed of many dimensions, this is exactly what he was talking about.
Originally posted by GalacticStormthe Negative Zone, Asgard, Mephistos realm
Asgard and Mephisto' realm are pocket dimensions withIn 616,
but the Negative Zone is located OUTSIDE 616.
You really did miss Annihilation, didn't ya?
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
and whilst these are dimensions unto themselves
they are tied to the main dimension by a common cosmic hierarchy.
That is why these alternate universes and their own versions of these side dimensions are grouped together as a cluster.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
This explains why LT is generally said to be judge and guardian in the majority of on panel accounts and ALL bios, but why in one account he’s said to survey the multiverses and in the other one you presented that there are multiverses in Marvel.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
My interpretation reconciles the use of the term multiverse
AND multiverses and is supported on panel and in bios.
Originally posted by GalacticStormYOUR interpretation has little support on panel,
NO support in bios
and cannot reconcile the fact that in the majority of accounts
LT is said to survey just the multiverse.
LT's 2006 Bios also states that the LT manipulates MEGAVERSESSSSS!!!!
And each MEGAVERSE is a COLLECTION of MULTIVERSESSSS!!!!!
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
But when all bios reflect what the majority of on panel accounts state
then its pretty much conclusive
Oh and 2006 Bio > 93 Bio and 83 bio.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The term "multiverses" can be reconciled with my interpretation,
my interpretation is what the majority of on panel accounts say with regards to LT and its what ALL of the bios say.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Mr Masters has no such support
and his interpretation can't account for the majority of continuity
even AFTER the 90's publication date of his evidence stating that LT guards and surveys A MULTIVERSE
The LT On Panel and in his Official 2006 Bio
is confirmed to have manipulated TWO MEGAVERSESSS!!!
That right there puts him leagues above Multiversal.
Keep up the fantasies though. 🙂
