Originally posted by Darth SexyMore complete? And didn't you say earlier that vaders force mastery is higher than banes ? His limitations didn't directly effect his strength and connection to the force, it merely limited his potential to become any stronger than he currently is. Really his limitations is mostly effecting his speed.
Um Bane would not curbstomp Vader at all, but his mastery seems more complete than Vader's, especially because of Vader's limitations.
So yes, vader > bane in force mastery. Being able to rip a huge bridge to pieces and using it as missiles the same way sylar did with mere glass is indeed a definition of good force mastery in my opinion.
Drew ******* karpyshyn has a tendency to ridiculously over power his characters, such as darth bane whom was once a mid tier sith lord. All he did is merely exaggerate banes feats, hell regarding the issue where bane so called moved faster than the eye can see for merely a split second unlike sidious, luke and mace. He made it seem as if it was a godly ability which fanboys like nebaris use to sexually fellate him.
Bane is WAY too overhyped, hell and im not the only one stating this, darth subjeckt hates bane, so do i and so does fascistcrusader, We all said the same thing : "overhyped"
Originally posted by Darth Hord
I got to say that I like Bane's fighting style,not giving a dam if his opponents lightsaber hits him or not and continue to fight.But look at bright side Gahlaktus at least Bane did not pull a moon out of orbit. I would hate to imagine what there would be if Bane did pull a moon.
Bane's sith lightning has the ability to instakill anybody, possibly even rivaling Palpatine. His force wave is ridiculous. We know he is VERY powerful and that Zannah is supposed to be more powerful than him. Interestingly enough, Freedon Nadd might be one of the top 5 sith in the SW universe after reading this book. I don't want to place him there but the dark side energies were ravaging his body, as they did to Palpatine. So far those are the only two in the SW universe that this has happened to.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Bane's sith lightning has the ability to instakill anybody, possibly even rivaling Palpatine. His force wave is ridiculous. We know he is VERY powerful and that Zannah is supposed to be more powerful than him. Interestingly enough, Freedon Nadd might be one of the top 5 sith in the SW universe after reading this book. I don't want to place him there but the dark side energies were ravaging his body, as they did to Palpatine. So far those are the only two in the SW universe that this has happened to.
I've been trying to tell people that Nadd was powerful for a long time.
Originally posted by Darth SexyThen he is more powerful than somebody whom is a fraction away of being as powerful as the most powerful sith lord and let alone zannah who surpasses bane in sheer strength.
Unfortunately not. Bane is much more powerful than Vader in the force.
Drew has written more bullshit.
Him overpowering bane is one thing but making his frickin apprentice stronger than himself is even more absurd, drew really is riddled with blatant bullshit, hell and if bane really did surpass vader, its possibly going to mean he surpasses revan and with that in hand, zannah would surpass the three of them and "rival" sidious.
Ill have to read the book myself and see how much exaggeration Drew cock shin did, instead of making an interesting plaguies novel, those assholes wanted to continue banes boring story.
Originally posted by Darth Hord
I really have trouble believing that Zannah will surpass Bane (esp in sheer strength) let alone others like Revan and Exar Kun
I could be wrong about Bane being superior to Vader, but his force mastery is incredible and he's done things Vader hasn't. Also you have to remember that this is Vader in a suit, but that is another discussion. A few things have been established:
1. Zannah is potentially more powerful than Bane
2. Nadd was uber powerful, probably more powerful than Bane and most of sith lords.
3. Bane's sith lightning kills instantly.
4. Drew doesn't give a shit about continuity (thanks lightsnake).
I would have to say a force battle between to Vader and Bane could go either way in my opinion depending on who hits who first with either force crush or lightning. Bane's lightning skills are incredibly powerful and easily rivals Revan's and Sidious's as well as Kun's amulet blasts. But it still can be reflected in that globe like defense(ex Yoda vs sids.) Which is also his greatest weakness if it is reflected to hit even one orbalisk. But now I definitely consider Bane of the greatest lightsaber duelists ever with orbalisks and he could definitely give NJO Luke a very tough saber battle.
Originally posted by Darth HordPossible.
I would have to say a force battle between to Vader and Bane could go either way in my opinion depending on who hits who first with either force crush or lightning.
Originally posted by Darth HordHow the hell can banes lightning compare to kuns amulet blasts? The amulet blasts are powerful that it can burn a hole in the massasi wall, What the blasts does is disintegrate anything that gets in its way, even nebaris admitted that the amulet blasts are far more powerful than any form of lightning.
Bane's lightning skills are incredibly powerful and easily rivals Revan's and Sidious's as well as Kun's amulet blasts.
While it may be impressive because its an insta kill, how does it compare to palpatines lightning whom could reduce somebody to bones?
Originally posted by Darth HordI don't, look at how badly he got tooled when his opponent employs a form he has never seen before, and luke was being described as a maelstrom of force energy moving so fast it looks like he is twirling 20 lightsabers and from what i know, luke does not use a singular form but combines several different forms as vader did which does not follow any sequence that bane remembers, this ALONE will tool bane along with the FACT that luke is a far superior duelist.
But now I definitely consider Bane of the greatest lightsaber duelists ever with orbalisks and he could definitely give NJO Luke a very tough saber battle.
And the orbalisks CAN be damaged by a lightsaber, mandalorian iron is described to be highly resistant to a saber strike, yet when exar kun swung harder than his initial strike, he tore through the mandalorian iron, again orbalisks are highly resistant to sabers, NOT immune.
I don't see why luke can't use TK to rip off those orbalisks from mere flesh seeing he could pull star destroyer engines apart with little effort.
In POD bane simply memorises a set of forms he knew to counter, and when his opponent uses a different form he has never seen, he gets pwned.
Originally posted by Darth SexyAnd vader has done things bane hasn't so that pretty much makes them equals. Again the suit does not limit his ability to use the force, the suit physically limits him, not force wise. If anything is limiting his force abilities to get stronger its his limited potential.
I could be wrong about Bane being superior to Vader, but his force mastery is incredible and he's done things Vader hasn't. Also you have to remember that this is Vader in a suit, but that is another discussion. A few things have been established:
Originally posted by Darth SexyIll have to read up
1. Zannah is potentially more powerful than Bane
Originally posted by Darth SexyThis is good news, finally i will acknowledge him as a very powerful force user.
2. Nadd was uber powerful, probably more powerful than Bane and most of sith lords.
Originally posted by Darth SexyYou know DS, lightning coming from any strong force user is lethel, expecially if the victim does not throw up a defence, the stronger the opponent, the stronger his resistance so i doubt bane could instantly kill sidious revan or exar kun.
3. Bane's sith lightning kills instantly.
Question, who did he kill exactly?
Originally posted by Darth SexyHes an arse hole.
4. Drew doesn't give a shit about continuity (thanks lightsnake).
Originally posted by Darth Hord
I would have to say a force battle between to Vader and Bane could go either way in my opinion depending on who hits who first with either force crush or lightning. Bane's lightning skills are incredibly powerful and easily rivals Revan's and Sidious's as well as Kun's amulet blasts. But it still can be reflected in that globe like defense(ex Yoda vs sids.) Which is also his greatest weakness if it is reflected to hit even one orbalisk. But now I definitely consider Bane of the greatest lightsaber duelists ever with orbalisks and he could definitely give NJO Luke a very tough saber battle.
What's so great about Revan's lightning again?