The myth of the planet smasher.
People who have done this....
Beta Ray Bill
Not Reg Superman
Supercharged Superman Prime
Not Reg Superman
Gladiator
Among others
People who have said they can do this
Superman
Superman
Superman
Superman
I mean, it's nice to have hopes and dreams, but i still can't maintain an erection for more than 13 minutes, no matter how much i say i can go all night long.
It's nice to want things tho.
Originally posted by UniOmnisuperman has destroyed planet during his fights (the shockwaves of the punches would blow the planet up) I think it happened againg superman-2 (the blew up earth-2), Darkseid (they blew up a planetoid), and with zod (I dunno if the planet was blown up but it was coming to pieces)
The myth of the planet smasher.People who have done this....
Beta Ray Bill
Not Reg Superman
Supercharged Superman Prime
Not Reg Superman
Gladiator
Among othersPeople who have said they can do this
Superman
Superman
Superman
SupermanI mean, it's nice to have hopes and dreams, but i still can't maintain an erection for more than 13 minutes, no matter how much i say i can go all night long.
It's nice to want things tho.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678Scans or it didn't happen.
superman has destroyed planet during his fights (the shockwaves of the punches would blow the planet up) I think it happened againg superman-2 (the blew up earth-2), Darkseid (they blew up a planetoid), and with zod (I dunno if the planet was blown up but it was coming to pieces)
Originally posted by UniOmniYou can't maintain an erection for more that 13 minutes?
The myth of the planet smasher.People who have done this....
Beta Ray Bill
Not Reg Superman
Supercharged Superman Prime
Not Reg Superman
Gladiator
Among othersPeople who have said they can do this
Superman
Superman
Superman
SupermanI mean, it's nice to have hopes and dreams, but i still can't maintain an erection for more than 13 minutes, no matter how much i say i can go all night long.
It's nice to want things tho.
Originally posted by Dark-JaxxI thought Alexanders machine was what brought back the Multiverse...
I have heard two claims about Superman Prime that I have yet to see confirmed.One that his "retcon punch" is what brought back the Multiverse.
The other is that he was so fast that Bart Allen had to absorb the entire Speed Force to keep up with him.
Any truth to either of these?
Sorry for the double post... kept reading.
Not much of a myth... more of analysis
Emma Frost's diamond form- inconsistencies
The basic properties of diamond form mutation of Emma Frost are being superhard, dispersing psionc energy providing immunity to TP yet being unable to access her TP.
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Indestructable according to Danger's sensors
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Emotions are nulled and no telepathy
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Immune to TP
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Her full diamond form is solid diamond, no blood when gets shattered
However there were some inconsistencies about that form- like Emma being harmed by No-Girl's TP or Xavier's psychic backlash in it, being able to access TP in her diamond form or bleeding in it.
(New) X-Men #119
Emma has pain receptors turned off in diamond form, yet bleeds normal blood and gets stunned by No-Girl's TP (which gets easily blocked when Emma turns back in human form)
Academy X #27
Emma while in diamond form gets stabbed by vibranium knife and bleeds.
(In Uncanny X-Men 499 vibranium knives in hands of superstrong person (Warpath) do nothing to her:
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Giant-sized Astonishing X-Men
Emma communicates telepathically while beating aliens in her diamond form
However, it turns out that it's not writers' inconsistency to blame and that variation of showing can easily be explained. The answer lies in Emma's "daughters"'s mutation- Stepford Cuckoos are able to turn in diamond form partially, retaining access to TP while having a part of their body diamond.
They turn thir hearts permanently diamondd to seal the Phoenix- that leaves them emotionless.
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In fact, Emma has been shown turning only parts of her body diamond on panel:
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Uncanny X-Men 495. Eyes are diamond while the rest of the body is flesh. That doesn't prevent her from TP communication.
In fact, that explains perfectly what happens in scans from Academy X 27 and (New) X-Men #119- only Emma's skin gets turned diamond, that's why despite having pain receptors and emotions nulled (see scans with Cuckoos), she still has flesh inside that diamond hide and organic brain- that's why she bleeds here. The scan from Giant-sized AXM shows that with practice she learned how to communicate in that form, though apparently her TP is weaker in partially transformed state and it's hard for her to use it much(her feats in that "controversal" state are barely communication, and nothing more).
In fact, the idea of Emma and Cuckoos having more precise control over their diamond forms was first brought up when they planned to include Emma in X3 movie. Here's the design of Emma by Michael Turner developed for the movie:
So the results of analysis shows that Emma can actually have "intermediate" form with diamond skin and limited telepathy- that explains the controversy of showings of her diamond form.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
superman has destroyed planet during his fights (the shockwaves of the punches would blow the planet up) I think it happened againg superman-2 (the blew up earth-2), Darkseid (they blew up a planetoid), and with zod (I dunno if the planet was blown up but it was coming to pieces)
Myth busted.
And while I'm thinking about Kryptonian Myths that have been floating around for a while...
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"Supes moving *insert large object* while flying is a major strength feat"
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First panel of the second scan...
"And as I discovered some time ago, when I lift an object while I'm flying, there's something other than strength at work."
Myth busted.
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"Daxamite=Superman" ...
Nameless Daxamite<Powergirl
Myth busted.
Originally posted by jalek moye
well then what does the flying feat represent. It's accepted by most that it's still strength but the flying gives him assitence with the pushing upwards or something like thatand nobody better say tactile telekinesis because he doesnt have it.
Originally posted by fangirl101
How the hell is it a myth that Daxamites are nearly as Strong as superman when Power girl fights not one Daxamite on panel?
Nameless Daxamite= Nameless Kryptonian is one thing.
Nameless Daxamite= Superman is another thing entirely.
Originally posted by darthgooberI'll give you that Byrne deal, as often Supermans powers are attributed to telekinetic powers [farther proven by Connor, who often did his lifting primarily with telekinesis, but the lines blurred and dileneated once he gained full Kryptonian powerset on which he was using.], however often enough, his lifting even while flying, is often attributed to strength alone as well. Most writers don't try to enter the territory of the Superman beyond his basic powerset, while others do. When Byrne wrote that, he was recreating Superman's origin and powerset, both of which should be taken with a grain of salt for better or worse, since the Man of Steel origin is no longer correct. Besides, I don't think there's anything he can't lift on the ground, that he can lift in the air. This is a guy who with a clenched hand can keep a black hole from expanding, or turn the endless wheels of maggedon, a younger Superman lifted the entirety of Metropolis from the ocean floor [lots of water displacement- think about it].
The planet was being destroyed because Supes and Zod were spiritually tied to it...
http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermansucks27gu4.jpgMyth busted.
And while I'm thinking about Kryptonian Myths that have been floating around for a while...
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[B]"Supes moving *insert large object* while flying is a major strength feat"
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http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=advsupes43618cr4.jpg
First panel of the second scan...
"And as I discovered some time ago, when I lift an object while I'm flying, there's something other than strength at work."Myth busted.
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"Daxamite=Superman" ...Nameless Daxamite<Powergirl
Myth busted. [/B]
Bragging isn't concrete evidence. And nameless characters will pretty much always be less than named characters. Daxamites however are the cousins to the Kryptonian race, and are generally considered in the same power-range. To think one is as powerful of Superman though is rediculous. Not only is Superman special to his species, he's special to ALL of them. Despite what any haters want to believe, he is one of the most powerful characters in comics, cosmic, gods, or otherwise. Now I won't claim he's unbeatable, or doesn't struggle, but that's his story, that's how he's written. In the end, he'll reach a different level the others can't attain.
And the other one? Are you claiming Superman couldn't destroy a planet/planetoid, or just that kid getting the Zod reference wrong by not saying Superman and Zod punching eachother, caused the fabric of an alternate dimension to be torn asunder because their wills shaped it?
Originally posted by darthgoober
What do you mean what does it represent? His strength is turned off and he's still able to pull that ship through flight. He also comments that there's something other than strength at work when he lifts something while flying. Thus lifting feats while fly AREN'T feats of pure strength for Supes. Strength might help in the effort, but the fact that there's something else at work means that those type's of feats aren't valid evidence of his being physically stronger than someone like the Hulk or Thor. To make that kind of determination you have to go by strength feats that AREN't aided by flight.
I have always believed this to be so......nice to see some evidence,despite the time frame or writer at the time, it seems like solid evidence for sure 👆
Originally posted by darthgoober
[B]"Daxamite=Superman" ...Nameless Daxamite<Powergirl
Myth busted. [/B]
Powergirl talking about her own powerlevel = essentially irrelevant.
Both Superman (who is much more knowledgeable on the topic of Kryptonian power) and Narration (who is omniscient on the topic of Kryptonian power) have described Daxamites as nothing but equals or superiors to Kryptonians.
