Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Take a step back, and realize,
I'm not even reading what you're posting. 😆
I see your fonts, but at this point, it's all just a bunch of jargon.
Seriously I'm being nice, don't waste your time.
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Beware of the almighty Phoenix:
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Xorn, KILLING Jean Grey ...
and exploding the actual Phoenix Force itself into Billions of pieces:
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On Panel:
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Beast remembers:
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Bio: Confirms the event!
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(From the Official Marvel Universe Handbook 2005)
"Jean Grey was Killed by an Electromagnetic Pulse,
this shattered the Force into Billions of PIECES"
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This incident involving Xorn & the Phoenix Force
was actually recalled by the embodiment of the Phoenix Force itself in "Endsong"
"I thought I was Dead, in a Billion Billion PIECES"
lmao
Originally posted by Mr Master
Again, you're under the illusion that I care what was posted there.
(I have no idea what was said)Take a step back, and realize,
I'm not even reading what you're posting. 😆I see your fonts, but at this point, it's all just a bunch of jargon.
Seriously I'm being nice, don't waste your time.
As per usual Mr Master,
when you've run out of steam, when your backs up against a wall, as we've all come to expect, its just repost after countless repost and insults.
You're very predictable 🙂
As it stands, it has been illustrated clearly through on panel/bio evidence and superior arguments that HCT was a divergent future of 616 and one Jean disposed of.
Thats cool. 😮💨
🙂
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Whenever you're ready:Why would Jean AMPUTATE a reality, only to repair it and then change events in 616 so that that same reality did not exist? 🤨
How would Jean affect 616 by applying her power to an amputated future that is NOT connected to the timestream?😕
How would Jean hear the events of 616's past by gazing into an amputated future which never experienced those events? 😕
Originally posted by leonidas
you admit she dealt with 616 scott to create a new future. but, at the same time, you seem to be saying that by affecting 616 scott she did NOT affect the 616 future, but rather 616 scott's NEW actions somehow created yet ANOTHER DIVERGENT timeline. is that accurate?if it is, my question then is this:
how does one affect the 616 future?? if directly impacting a 616 character serves only to create ANOTHER divergent timeline, then it seems (and i said this earlier) that you are implying there IS NO 616 FUTURE THAT CAN EVER EXIST. just new divergent realities everytime a choice or decision is made. if scott's decision did NOT lead to a new 616 future, does that mean that all x-books are now out of continuity?
it seems so much easier to say the hct future WAS 616's intended future, it was cut-off, it was changed with scott's decision.
to suppose otherwise implies that when scott was altered, the alteration led to a SEPERATE future -- not the 616 future. how could it if you think that were the alteration NOT made it would have led to a FUTURE that wasn't 616? it necessarily follows that everything AFTER scott's altered decision is NOT set in the 616.
Will never get answered 😆
Originally posted by GalacticStormAs per usual Mr Master,
when you've run out of steam, when your backs up against a wall, as we've all come to expect, its just repost after countless repost and insults.
Same ol' same ol' ... like I said, stroke yourself all you want.
You've become something of an entertainment to us here at kmc.
Originally posted by GalacticStormpredictable
Of course, I expect nothing else, you been doing it since 2005.
Originally posted by GalacticStormAs it stands, it has been illustrated clearly through on panel/bio evidence and superior arguments that HCT was a divergent future of 616 and one Jean disposed of.
I bet you have to squeeze your head through the door to walk your poodle.
🙂
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Whenever you're ready:Why would Jean AMPUTATE a reality, only to repair it and then change events in 616 so that that same reality did not exist? 🤨
How would Jean affect 616 by applying her power to an amputated future that is NOT connected to the timestream?😕
How would Jean hear the events of 616's past by gazing into an amputated future which never experienced those events? 😕
Equally valid 🙂
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Throughout this thread your fallacy has been highlighted and your opinions rubbished. 🙂Counter arguments (as in this case) were met with repost and smilie infused waffle.
Countless questions have been sent your way, left unanswered and will likely remain so because your argument is sheer fantasy. jester
You can't hang with me son, you just don't have the know how. 🙂
Beware the mighty Phoenix Force:
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POST-Retcon Beyonder gave Rachel the FULL power of the embodiment of the Phoenix Force:
(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2004 - Marvel Girl bio)
"Beyonder once hinted
that Rachel could potentially become equal in power to the previous Phoenix.
Indeed,
the Beyonder granted Rachel the Full power that the previous Phoenix had possessed"
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This is POST-Retcon Beyonder (Cube Being) getting the credit for this.
Heck, Cube Beings aren't even above Aspects of Eternity or even a single Celestial.
On Panel verification:
Beyonder gives Rachel the power:
Rachel becomes the Full embodiment of the Phoenix Force:
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Cube Beings giving away the Full power of the actual Phoenix Force On Panel,
and confirmed as canon in the official Marvel Handbook.
yawn
Any chance you're gonna get around to answering these questions?
🙂
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Whenever you're ready:Why would Jean AMPUTATE a reality, only to repair it and then change events in 616 so that that same reality did not exist? 🤨
How would Jean affect 616 by applying her power to an amputated future that is NOT connected to the timestream?😕
How would Jean hear the events of 616's past by gazing into an amputated future which never experienced those events? 😕
Beware the power of the Phoenix Force:
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A Few members of the X-Men and Ultra Force (SIX in ALL)
are sent to battle the ACTUAL PHOENIX FORCE (WITHOUT a HOST)
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"The assembled Heroes are TIRED & BATTERED,
the PHOENIX is REBORN and FRESH"
AND they're STILL holding their own! 😂
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Amber Hunt & Gate tear a Hole through Time & Space,
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The Six heroes BEAT (PHYSICALLY)
the PHOENIX FORCE into and through the Portal:
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The Phoenix Force ends up DISPLACED by FOUR Billion Years:
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(From the Official Marvel Universe Handbook 2005)
"the HEROES were able to drive the FORCE into another portal,
and it emerged Four Billion years in the Past"
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Confirmed Again in the 2007 Handbook Bios:
whistling
Originally posted by id369Not entirely sure, but didn’t that happened in Secret War’s 2 tie in?
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POST-Retcon Beyonder gave Rachel the FULL power of the embodiment of the Phoenix Force:
(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2004 - Marvel Girl bio)
"Beyonder once hinted
that Rachel could potentially become equal in power to the previous Phoenix.
Indeed,
the Beyonder granted Rachel the Full power that the previous Phoenix had possessed"
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I'm currently talking with the handbook writers about the matter.
The point was never ever stated on panel, it was just included in the bios during the Pre-retcon Beyonder period and prior to the Phoenix retcon and has been left in there ever since.
🙂
Bios when in agreement with on panel evidence = indisputable
On the other hand 😖hifty:
On panel evidence>contrary bio account.
That is unless people would take a bios word that Namor lifts 85 tons when he's shown lifting ships.
Or Namor flies at 60 mph when he's shown matching warplanes? 😕
Find an on panel statement saying that Beyonder gave Rachel the full power of the Phoenix or give it a rest.😱
Originally posted by GalacticStormI'm currently talking with the handbook writers about the matter.
Now you can sway handbook writers. Oh this is too much.
Originally posted by GalacticStormThe point was never ever stated on panel,
it was just included in the bios during the Pre-retcon Beyonder period
and prior to the Phoenix retcon and has been left in there ever since.
It was stated On Panel, as presented,
and it was confirmed in a 2004 Official Handbook Bio,
giving the CUBE BEING (POST-Retcon Beyonder the credit)
Beyonder was RETCONNED in 1988 ... 😂
Nice try.
Originally posted by GalacticStormFind an on panel statement,
saying that Beyonder gave Rachel the full power of the Phoenix or give it a rest.
Originally posted by Mr MasterBeware the mighty Phoenix Force:
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POST-Retcon Beyonder gave Rachel the FULL power of the embodiment of the Phoenix Force:
(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2004 - Marvel Girl bio)
"Beyonder once hinted
that Rachel could potentially become equal in power to the previous Phoenix.Indeed,
the Beyonder granted Rachel the Full power that the previous Phoenix had possessed"........................................................................................
This is POST-Retcon Beyonder (Cube Being) getting the credit for this.
Heck, Cube Beings aren't even above Aspects of Eternity or even a single Celestial.
On Panel verification:
Beyonder gives Rachel the power:
Rachel becomes the Full embodiment of the Phoenix Force:
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Cube Beings giving away the Full power of the actual Phoenix Force On Panel,
and confirmed as canon in the official Marvel Handbook.yawn
