Superman vs Black Adam(punchfest)

Started by carver927 pages
Originally posted by -Pr-
you just copy and paste nowadays, don't you.

There my buddy go. Where have you been? By the way, no, i didn't copy and paste...all of that is new and fresh off the mind.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sounds like somebody else I know. You can take the high road while insulting into the sunset all you want I readily accept your concession.

Lulz.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Now you are just speculating. You have no proof of your theory as he already accesses his stamina without having to announce it...
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Announcing a power is no reason to discount it, either. He's announced before.

Cap's mixed and matched powers before, and there's no evidence he could only channel his powers one way.. Just because it says "Stamina of Atlas" in no way means that's the only way he can use it, or that said stamina doesn't also confer a strength boost.

In any event, you're the one doing most of the speculating, by arguing Cap somehow amps or gimps himself based on how he uses a power. Like you yourself said, Cap stalemated Superman for three hours in an arm wrestling competition, so I think it's safe to say they're on par in strength..

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

All of this is moot, as he lost the armwrestle, but my point still stands- he doesn't use Atlas' stamina to amp his strength. Its separate, hence STRENGTH of Hercules, STAMINA of Atlas.

Did Marvel lose an arm wrestle to Superman? I wasn't aware of that.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Did Marvel lose an arm wrestle to Superman? I wasn't aware of that.

It was a stalemate, by Supermans admission.

But Cap lost once Captain Marvel Jr. and Mary Marvel tapped into the power, leaving him with only a third of it.

Originally posted by cdtm
Announcing a power is no reason to discount it, either. He's announced before.

Cap's mixed and matched powers before, and there's no evidence he could only channel his powers one way.. Just because it says "Stamina of Atlas" in no way means that's the only way he can use it, or that said stamina doesn't also confer a strength boost.

In any event, you're the one doing most of the speculating, by arguing Cap somehow amps or gimps himself based on how he uses a power. Like you yourself said, Cap stalemated Superman for three hours in an arm wrestling competition, so I think it's safe to say they're on par in strength..


That's the thing, people forgets that captain marvel and black adam's status depends upon superman not the other way around. At their best they are a peer of him but at his best he is above them. Peer of his strength of course but not equal of him in strength. Off panel and both of them were likely holding back due to it happening in Bibbo's bar. In POS 46 marvel was trying his all to beat a calm, holding back superman and couldn't. Not a good showing for a supposed equal.

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That's pretty much how most writers portray Adam vs either of them. 😄

I guess Superman can get a split if he doesn't hold back. Which, for the record, would be out of character for him.. And CIS is on by default.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Lulz.
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Originally posted by cdtm
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That's pretty much how most writers portray Adam vs either of them. 😄

I guess Superman can get a split if he doesn't hold back. Which, for the record, would be out of character for him.. And CIS is on by default.


I think I've seen otherwise
Originally posted by Philosophía
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Yeah, an amped Superman who had been gone for quite some time beating up Black Adam and then jobbing out to a rather small exposure to Kryptonite isn't all that impressive to me.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yeah, an amped Superman who had been gone for quite some time beating up Black Adam and then jobbing out to a rather small exposure to Kryptonite isn't all that impressive to me.

He was there to recharge himself not to amp, lex said that. Kryptonite is a plot device. It's still more impressive than a short movie based upom a pre-crisis fight. Kal also beat the shit out of billy in JLU, more watched than any of this.

Clash = Superman is a dick.

"Why didn't you just take Caps advice and teleport in me, Atom, or someone that could have verified the whether the bomb was actually a bomb, instead of wasting all that time fighting him?"

"I had to save the city, Bruce."

"A bomb actually would have left more of the city intact.."

"But I thought..."

"That's the problem, Clark... That's the problem."

Originally posted by cdtm
Clash = Superman is a dick.

"Why didn't you just take Caps advice and teleport in me, Atom, or someone that could have verified the whether the bomb was actually a bomb, instead of wasting all that time fighting him?"

"I had to save the city, Bruce."

"A bomb actually would have left more of the city intact.."

"But I thought..."

"That's the problem, Clark... That's the problem."


And? How's any of that relevant?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Don't play this game again jake. On panel cap needs amping to match kal's strength, yelling in pain in a handshake and he is suddenly equal in strength to him. He has no speed comparisons, no durability comparisons and we are supposed to think he is equal to superman, why? I can give you more reasons and statements to support that diana is equal or very close to superman in power, but feats prove otherwise. This is just a waste of time anyway, this isn't superman vs captain marvel and no matter if you think adam>cap or adam=cap, you can't super-impose cap's feats to adam like you can't that to thor and bill.

Amping as in what type of amping are you reffering to???

Originally posted by abhilegend
And? How's any of that relevant?

Because Superman was acting just like Black Adam, while Cap was still in character?

Superman slams a safe into Cap three times in a row so hard he compresses it! If he pulled that against a bad guy, it'd raise eyebrows. CIS was off, basically.

Originally posted by cdtm
Because Superman was acting just like Black Adam, while Cap was still in character?

Superman slams a safe into Cap three times in a row so hard he compresses it! If he pulled that against a bad guy, it'd raise eyebrows. CIS was off, basically.


Haven't you heard of superdickery? Billy also said "no more Mr. Nice guy". He wasn't holding back either.

Originally posted by zeel
Amping as in what type of amping are you reffering to???
There's no amp it's just twisting evidence to support one's case. I detest these sort of shenanigans.

Originally posted by zeel
Amping as in what type of amping are you reffering to???

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You can't beat the strength of Hercules and Atlas combined.

He can stack his powers and the way the Power of Shazam works, each attribute collerates and synches with the others. Further more, that is literally the one and only time Cap has ever had to call upon Atlas' strength rather than his stamina in order to match Superman in any kind of confrontation.

I think you're making that out to be more than what it is when it's clear Ordway's intent was to portray Cap and Superman as equals until the power splitting got involved.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He can stack his powers and the way the Power of Shazam works, each attribute collerates and synches with the others. Further more, that is literally the one and only time Cap has ever had to call upon Atlas' strength rather than his stamina in order to match Superman in any kind of confrontation.

I think you're making that out to be more than what it is when it's clear Ordway's intent was to portray Cap and Superman as equals until the power splitting got involved.

And? It's still as valid as any other showing, considering he had to amp himself using zeus's lightning to catch superman's punch again while a weakened superman caught his punch and threw him away, it's pretty consistent among other showings. Compare

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and tell me cap is equal to superman in strength.