Originally posted by Papa Smurph
No, I'm interested in Soljer's logic. Apparently Surfer >= Cable because Cable didn't want to fight back and only offensive maneuver was easily blowing something away that's as durable as Surfer.At least, that's what I'm reading.
Breaking Surfer's board is one thing. Breaking the Silver Surfer himself is another...
...But this debate doesn't belong in this thread. Please refrain from debating it here. That goes for everyone. Thank you.
-Evangel94
Thanks.
We have company for the holiday, and our cpu doubles as a guest room, so I won't be around tonight. Leonidas will be posting my writeup.
I'll be in and out tomorrow, because I'll be out of town for the morning/afternoon, but should be able to make it on at least a couple times to post, then in the evening as things come to a close.
Cock. I realized Evangel's midnight is 1AM EST. I don't want leo staying up for me that late since I think he's EST (not sure though)
Anyone want to volunteer to post it, since I only have about a half hour before I'm getting kicked off my cpu? Evangel, would you be able to? I realize it might be an imposition, but it's the difference between that and waiting 8-12 hours for my writeup.
If not, I'll wait and do it when I can. But if anyone is around at 12 CST (1 EST) and is willing, PM me and you'll have my thanks.
I don't really know why, but for some reason I feel the need to address a few things Evangel brought up in Digi's match with PS...
Originally posted by Evangel94
In regards to goober's match,
It also depends on the raw materials available and the time your have. Does one have the metal allow that might be necessary for certain circuits or parts? What if there is none available on the battlefield? Do you sacrafice quality for quantity? Do you really have the time or energy to create that many? Can you even fit 6 billion people inside a sphere with a diameter 10 miles wide let alone even make that many? 6 billion is roughly the population of human's on the earth.
1. I wasn't using materials on the battlefield, I was creating whole new materials out of energy so I had more than enough to complete my plan because I was revitalizing my energy reserves with the Nega Bands every time I made one.
2. I never claimed the Silver Adaptoid would create billions I only had him create 33. The billions come into play when each adaptoid created possesses the ability to create adaptoids of their own.
3. Every Adaptoid created also used the mind and abilities of Hank Pym during the creation process. An indestructible sphere with a 10 mile diameter might not normally fit 6 billion androids in it, but it wouldn't be that difficult if they shrank to less than an inch tall as it became necessary(which I specifically mentioned).
None of this really matters now of course, I just thought I'd point it out cause I'm still peeved at having to forfeit and I have a couple of minutes to kill online before I start packing again.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Wouldn't that be reality manipulation then?
Jenny Quantum - Manipulates reality. Completely shatters the laws consequence.
The Doctor - Magician/Energy manipulator. Magic can be iffy, since it ties in with reality warping at times. This is because it defies the law’s of consequence.
Solar - Energy Manipulator. Direct scientific reasoning must be applied, or suffer the consequence.
Originally posted by id369
My question is; is instant tech is being abused or not?
A case can easily be made for that. However due to Evangel's ruling it would seem that no one has done so as of yet.
Though I would like to know why fabricating complex systems in a few moments is okay but using superspeed to help build things during prep isn't.
Alright Tournament Participants.,
I've heard your multiple complaints and arguments (you know who you are) citing the use of matter manipulation to create super advanced technology as a violation of the instant technology purchase.
Originally, I allowed inoragnic matter manipulation as a weapon or tool to be used in prep and the battle. I thought it would be used for those who wish to transmute rocks into metals and primitive weapons, or those who wanted to transmute an enemy's armor and weapons into something else. But clearly in practice this is not what has happened. I've heard what you said repeatedly to me about the matter, and I cannot in good conscious allow matter manipulation to be used to create super advanced technology.
Therefore, from now on, matter manipulation cannot be used to create super advanced technology (unless you purchased the instant tech ability). I apologize in advance to which this ruling affects. However, I am sure you can use inorganic matter manipulation as an offensive and defensive weapon rather than a prep based tool
-Evangel94
Originally posted by Evangel94
Alright Tournament Participants.,I've heard your [b]multiple
complaints and arguments (you know who you are) citing the use of matter manipulation to create super advanced technology as a violation of the instant technology purchase.Originally, I allowed inoragnic matter manipulation as a weapon or tool to be used in prep and the battle. I thought it would be used for those who wish to transmute rocks into metals and primitive weapons, or those who wanted to transmute an enemy's armor and weapons into something else. But clearly in practice this is not what has happened. I've heard what you said repeatedly to me about the matter, and I cannot in good conscious allow matter manipulation to be used to create super advanced technology.
Therefore, from now on, matter manipulation cannot be used to create super advanced technology (unless you purchased the instant tech ability). I apologize in advance to which this ruling affects. However, I am sure you can use inorganic matter manipulation as an offensive and defensive weapon rather than a prep based tool
-Evangel94 [/B]
Changing rules mid tourney is crap. Nuff said.