Originally posted by Gideon[/B][/QUOTE]
...So, assuming that Darth Sidious makes use of Quey'tek, he can shield his considerable sensitivity to the Force from Darth Nihilus and Darth Sion; leaving only his "life energy" as Nebaris corrected me on. But that's clearly not enough for Nihilus to detect. So, assuming Sidious goes for Nihilus first, he can slay the Sith Lord and then turn to Sion.Sidious might very well win.
Sorry123KID, Gideon says otherwise.
Originally posted by 123KIDYes he did, but he also said that sidious can win.
no he said the duo could win
stop making yourself even more of an asshat than you already are by lying about what others say
...So, assuming that Darth Sidious makes use of Quey'tek, he can shield his considerable sensitivity to the Force from Darth Nihilus and Darth Sion; leaving only his "life energy" as Nebaris corrected me on. But that's clearly not enough for Nihilus to detect. So, assuming Sidious goes for Nihilus first, he can slay the Sith Lord and then turn to Sion.
Sidious might very well win.
^ I DARE you to call me a liar now, hell this has been posted a few posts above mine, it occurs to me you lack the ability to comprehend basic sentences let alone read.
There^ i even posted a screen shot for the poor hound begging for proof.
Excuse the double-post.
Originally posted by GideonThere it is. This has been qualified by LS as well, so I'll let it drop.
This is not Return of the Jedi-era Palpatine. This is Revenge of the Sith-era Palpatine. Palpatine did use Quey'tek during the prequel trilogy as a measure to cloak his powers from the Jedi Order. Furthermore, I am not trying to contend that it involves "disconnecting one's self" from the Force, but it does erase one's Force signature.
I did. And it's been settled, but Ventress and Dooku's strength in the Force does not rival the Emperor's, he's not necessarily bound by the same limitations.This is true.
The expected response.My comment was a compliment, and that's it. I'd expected either silent acceptance or a "thanks," so you can understand why I wouldn't bother going any further.
But, using Quey'tek, Palpatine is easily capable of disabling Sion.So, what? Sion's just going to stand there and die?
I can understand why you'd be opposed to the idea of Sion being able to contend with Sidious on his own, but the statement that he would just be utterly and instantly demolished is an unsupported one. I agree; Sion would lose, and it would be equally fallacious of me to claim that any relatively obscure Sith would be able to stand up to Palpatine. But it's not plausible to assume that it'd be over in a flash, especially when it is taken into account what the Sith Lord had going him.
Originally posted by GideonThe key word there being "assuming." And considering that this is what Palpatine's survival hinges on, it's a relatively weak argument. I could just as easily say that Nihilus would figure out a way to indirectly detect his opponent's presence simply following the Force energy released through techniques like lightning, which would likely come into play here.
Well, perhaps there is a way for Darth Sidious to emerge victorious in this debacle after all. My gratitude to Nikkolas for inadvertantly giving me this quote:...So, assuming that Darth Sidious makes use of Quey'tek, he can shield his considerable sensitivity to the Force from Darth Nihilus and Darth Sion; leaving only his "life energy" as Nebaris corrected me on. But that's clearly not enough for Nihilus to detect. So, assuming Sidious goes for Nihilus first, he can slay the Sith Lord and then turn to Sion.
Sidious might very well win.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy"A few shreds of lightning"? Is that a joke? Sidious is dealing with two very capable Sith Lords here, not toddlers.
Nobody cares.. If Palpatine can perform the fallanassi technique, then Sion and Nihilus dont stand a chance. A few shreds of force lightning and it's over..
i wondered something
can't Palpatien just cut Sion's connection to the Force ? his immortality hinges on his Force and will power and if he loses the Force he'll probably die instantly i figure
just wondering
of course Palpatine would have to perform this while Nihilus is actively trying to kill him so it might be abit impossible in this situation
Who says they have to be?
Who says Obi-Wan is on par with Anakin?
Or that any one droid in the arena was on par with any one Jedi?
Personally shown duelling ability is a bit moot if there's no real one-on-one advantage. True, Nihilus and Sion have to mesh a bit, but both are at the very least competent duellists. They are not amateurs, padawans, or newbies. They are Sith Lords. Even if they were only marginally around the same level as Maul, two of them could overcome him.
Originally posted by Janus Marius
Who says they have to be?Who says Obi-Wan is on par with Anakin?
Or that any one droid in the arena was on par with any one Jedi?
Personally shown duelling ability is a bit moot if there's no real one-on-one advantage.
True, Nihilus and Sion have to mesh a bit, but both are at the very least competent duellists. They are not amateurs, padawans, or newbies. They are Sith Lords. Even if they were only marginally around the same level as Maul, two of them could overcome him.
Originally posted by FaunusI already have, i was simply shutting the member whom accused me of lying thank you.
Ivalice, who gives a flying f*ck what another member thinks? If you have an opinion that you want to express, put in your own argument or shut up.
Originally posted by 123KIDNow, Read the screen shot carefully dude, your possibly the most stupid person i have ever met.
so Gideon said they could lose
just like i said
gotchaand the duo win
Originally posted by 123KIDIf you had the capabilities to read, i was merely stating that in that post, his opinion is that sidious would win. I never stated he said that in other posts(If you know what this means which you clearly do not!).
read it
i also have the post i showed saying he thought the duo would win
fail
Originally posted by 123KIDmmhmm
but seriously i don't care anymore
i ain't worth it
Originally posted by Faunus:
The key word there being "assuming." And considering that this is what Palpatine's survival hinges on, it's a relatively weak argument. I could just as easily say that Nihilus would figure out a way to indirectly detect his opponent's presence simply following the Force energy released through techniques like lightning, which would likely come into play here.
Of course, no one is arguing that this would be the likely outcome, Faunus. But it is far from a "weak argument"; it's actually rather clever. It has a logical foundation and, unlike most arguments, does not assume facts not already in evidence. The circumstances are thus: Emperor Palpatine is facing two Dark Lords of the Sith; one of whom carries psuedoinvincibility and the other carries a massive, potent draining ability. That said, he has the means to evade the drain (Quey'tek) of which there is no countermeasure available to the other Sith Lords. He is also free to generate and make use of the Force. Furthermore, aside from the "uber-drain", neither Sith Lord has demonstrated any other skills that suggest a remote parity with the Emperor, who is a remarkably prodigious duelist. Neither of them have demonstrated a remote parity with the Emperor in terms of intellect, either, and Palpatine's penchant for manipulation and calculation is peerless. Given how certain parties were fond of citing how Palpatine's Sith training involves subterfuge and deception as opposed to brute force, this is one situation that -- outside of those traits being used to achieve a goal that brute force never did -- these traits could also allow him to emerge victorious. It cannot be ruled out, I'm afraid.
Originally posted by GideonWasn't it stated by kreia that his attack was actually a technique which severs life and the force which kills them?
Of course, no one is arguing that this would be the likely outcome, Faunus. But it is far from a "weak argument"; it's actually rather clever. It has a logical foundation and, unlike most arguments, does not assume facts not already in evidence. The circumstances are thus: Emperor Palpatine is facing two Dark Lords of the Sith; one of whom carries psuedoinvincibility and the other carries a massive, potent draining ability. That said, he has the means to evade the drain (Quey'tek) of which there is no countermeasure available to the other Sith Lords. He is also free to generate and make use of the Force. Furthermore, aside from the "uber-drain", neither Sith Lord has demonstrated any other skills that suggest a remote parity with the Emperor, who is a remarkably prodigious duelist. Neither of them have demonstrated a remote parity with the Emperor in terms of intellect, either, and Palpatine's penchant for manipulation and calculation is peerless. Given how certain parties were fond of citing how Palpatine's Sith training involves subterfuge and deception as opposed to brute force, this is one situation that -- outside of those traits being used to achieve a goal that brute force never did -- these traits could also allow him to emerge victorious. It cannot be ruled out, I'm afraid.
I seriously doubt it was an uber version of the force drain gideon.