Originally posted by King_Mungi
Piledriver being impaled by Hawkeye's arrow was PIS, as Piledriver has shown multiple times to be bulletproof.Severance your greatly underestimating the crew, I suggest you read this:
Hawkeye has, time and time again, shown that his arrows are more powerful than bullets - as he's hurt/impaled bullet proof characters on more than one occasion.
Originally posted by tkitna
Also, your reference to Cage fighting Iron Man, Ironclad, Piledriver, Rhino, and Black Goliath is weak too.
Yeah because basically either YOU decide that its either PIS or a low showing.
Originally posted by tkitna
I dont have the comic, but Cage beating Iron Man or even having a decent showing is rediculous. Do you actually think Cage should be able to hang with Iron Man? Ever? For once, be honest with yourself.
Dont tell me to be honest. Im sick to your death of misinterpreting some of what im saying and you screaming PIS, im trying as hard as I can to be civil. No its not stupid writing because.
1. He didnt win.
2. It was classic Iron Man.
Originally posted by tkitna
Ironclad is Luke Cage only to another degree. Losing to Cage is garbage writing at best.
1. Luke was upgraded
2. Hes got a history of fighting much stronger opponents. Doc Samson and Orca....all that PIS?
Originally posted by tkitna
Piledriver should never lose either, but he's a villian that was created to lose regardless. Low showing for him.
Why is it a low showing hes class 10. 😐 Losing to Thor makes him a loser?
Originally posted by tkitna
Rhino,,,,,,he's never won a fight in the Marvel Universe. Nuff Said!
What about Doc Samson?
Originally posted by tkitna
Black Goliath? A c-lister thats not going to win against one of Marvels premier minority heros. Regardless, I dont think he had enough for Cage anyways. He wasnt much and dying to a cheap imitation of Thor proved that.
1. You missed the point hes stronger than Cage.
2. THATS A THOR THAT WAS PAWNING ALL THE HEROES FOR GOD SAKE!
Originally posted by tkitna
All this, and we're arguing that a 30 tonner at best is going to beat a character that has already beaten the Hulk before. Unreal.
Yeah because everytime he has a good feat its a low showing or pIS crap.
Originally posted by King_MungiI read somewhere that a arrow with a special tip can go through things bullets cannot. But don't remember the source.
Piledriver being impaled by Hawkeye's arrow was PIS, as Piledriver has shown multiple times to be bulletproof.Severance your greatly underestimating the crew, I suggest you read this:
BTW Abom. should win this. But Luke does have some nice showings against Doc Samson, Ironclad, and Rhino. 3 guys who themselves have given Hulk hell.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Piledriver being impaled by Hawkeye's arrow was PIS, as Piledriver has shown multiple times to be bulletproof.Severance your greatly underestimating the crew, I suggest you read this:
Not stating he wasn't bullet proof Hawkeye said his arrows hit harder than bullets at close range. But it can't surely be that much harder. I'll check out the forum and get back to you
Originally posted by tkitna
No, I dont feel they should be able to hurt the Hulk, Thing, or Abomination for that matter.
Then you're a complete and utter waste fo time arent, you. All you're doing is saying feats are PIS despite the fact that their is evidence to the contrary. Yes Cap can hurt the Hulk because:
1. He stunned Pofessor Hulk for briefly
2. Has KOed a mind controlled Namor in water.
3. Has hurt Namor with a kick and put him on his back
4. Has hit Hulk so hard that he let go of his grip on him.
5. TKOed Thunderball
6. Knocked the air out of Executioner and put him on his back, despite the fact hes class 65 and more durable thanmost Asagardians.
7. Hurt Abomination
8. Theres probaly more.......
Originally posted by tkitna
PIS.
Quit wasting my time.
Originally posted by severance
He can't take shots from thor. He may have taken them but this is either Thor holding back (most likelY) or PIS. If thor unleashes a true hit pile driver turns into red mist. Spidey (who does not have super hard skin) took out almost the whole wrecking crew are we saying he hits as hard as thor?Did cap hurt him with his unbreakable shield or with his fists?
Ultron looks similar to a human do you think he has weak spots?
Ultron is a robot. Abim is humanoid. Cap used his hand on a pressure point.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
I read somewhere that a arrow with a special tip can go through things bullets cannot
Certain things, yes. For example, bullet resistant fibers - as an appropriately tipped arrow cuts. Water, too, since bullets will often break up as they hit water whereas an arrow will not.
Bulletproof comic book characters (almost without exception) do not mimic the properties of cloth or water.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone1. He stunned Pofessor Hulk for briefly
2. Has KOed a mind controlled Namor in water.
3. Has hurt Namor with a kick and put him on his back
4. Has hit Hulk so hard that he let go of his grip on him.
5. TKOed Thunderball
6. Knocked the air out of Executioner and put him on his back, despite the fact hes class 65 and more durable thanmost Asagardians.
7. Hurt Abomination
8. Theres probaly more.......
The legend of Class 100 Captain America continues.
ok I read the first few entries in the respec thread. I saw a lot of spin in favour of the crew - exaggerated interpretations of the panel action. I believe they are probably more powerful than the handbook class 10 but they are not in the same class higher level bricks. You miss out the numerour low showings for the crew.for instance spider man one shotting bulldozer
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Then you're a complete and utter waste fo time arent, you. All you're doing is saying feats are PIS despite the fact that their is evidence to the contrary. Yes Cap can hurt the Hulk because:1. He stunned Pofessor Hulk for briefly
2. Has KOed a mind controlled Namor in water.
3. Has hurt Namor with a kick and put him on his back
4. Has hit Hulk so hard that he let go of his grip on him.
5. TKOed Thunderball
6. Knocked the air out of Executioner and put him on his back, despite the fact hes class 65 and more durable thanmost Asagardians.
7. Hurt Abomination
8. Theres probaly more.......Quit wasting my time.
Ultron is a robot. Abim is humanoid. Cap used his hand on a pressure point.
Sh!t I gotta see that if you got a scan. That mean cap is up there with Batkick!! Point about Abom physiology is that he looks about as humanoid as ultron (same number of legs, arms etc.) Who knows what the physiology of a 980lb green scaly man thing like abomination is like for astrt as stated he has no visible nuts
Originally posted by severance
Sh!t I gotta see that if you got a scan. That mean cap is up there with Batkick!! Point about Abom physiology is that he looks about as humanoid as ultron (same number of legs, arms etc.) Who knows what the physiology of a 980lb green scaly man thing like abomination is like for astrt as stated he has no visible nuts
Well what do you think?
Humanoid = similar to human, therefore most likely has similar physiology. Furthermore didnt stop Cap from hurting him....oh yeah im not sure what your question was refering to Cap has hurt Abom with his shield and brefily stunned Professor Hulk with a pressure point. There is nothing to indicate that his physiology is radically different.
Ultron doesnt even have any organs you cant compare the two at all.
Well most of those feats were from the herochat respect thread we might have some of them on KMC, but yeah Cap has been****ing up bricks with his fists for ages.
Originally posted by severance
ok I read the first few entries in the respec thread. I saw a lot of spin in favour of the crew - exaggerated interpretations of the panel action. I believe they are probably more powerful than the handbook class 10 but they are not in the same class higher level bricks. You miss out the numerour low showings for the crew.for instance spider man one shotting bulldozer
Ummm...what, show me where I exaggerated anything in that thread. Tell me what was taken out of context. Yes, I didn't add the low showings as they contradict all their other showings
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Ummm...what, show me where I exaggerated anything in that thread. Tell me what was taken out of context. Yes, I didn't add the low showings as they contradict all their other showings
Ok in your first post you mention the crew nearly killing hercules.
You wrote:
Here the Crew ambush Hercules and once again nearly kill him before Thor arrives and in turn they nearly kill Thor
In the first encounter it wasn't just the crew but goliath, tiger shark and others also Hercules was drugged to hell he could barley stand. In the second fight Hercules had become so traumatised by his near death experience that when he met the crew he was losing to them easily - this is due to the mental trauma and not any physical weakness on hercs part. Thor came along to help and it seemed as though the crew were beating him. When you read on it shows the fact that Thor is entirely holding back to make it seem like his life is jeopardy to ignite Herc into action. Herc seeing his firend in danger (albeit pretend) snaps out of his trauma and then virtually destroys the crew and they scamper away.
Your desription does not fit the events and is out of context of the preceding events.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Well what do you think?Humanoid = similar to human, therefore most likely has similar physiology. Furthermore didnt stop Cap from hurting him....oh yeah im not sure what your question was refering to Cap has hurt Abom with his shield and brefily stunned Professor Hulk with a pressure point. There is nothing to indicate that his physiology is radically different.
Ultron doesnt even have any organs you cant compare the two at all.
Well most of those feats were from the herochat respect thread we might have some of them on KMC, but yeah Cap has been****ing up bricks with his fists for ages.
Sorry to bang on about this, but you are not dealing with the issue here. Abomination is humanoid in shape - he has eyes and and a mouth and four limbs. But he is also very different from a human. He is green and scaly, has two toes, sharp teeth, weighs near half a ton, has no nuts - so you cannot assume his physiology is the same as humans in any way. That said if I find the scan of cap hurtig him with his bare hands, I may have to grudgingly concede this point (but I wil respect Marvel writers a little less)
Originally posted by severance
Ok in your first post you mention the crew nearly killing hercules.
You wrote:
[B]Here the Crew ambush Hercules and once again nearly kill him before Thor arrives and in turn they nearly kill ThorIn the first encounter it wasn't just the crew but goliath, tiger shark and others also Hercules was drugged to hell he could barley stand. [/B]
and your right, except for Hercules gives credit to the Crew for nearly killing him and that's what I referenced as that's what he said directly. I didn't even post the first fight, but what Hercules said after it
1. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/Thor_1990_418_03.jpg
2. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/Thor_1990_418_04.jpg
Originally posted by severance
In the second fight Hercules had become so traumatised by his near death experience that when he met the crew he was losing to them easily - this is due to the mental trauma and not any physical weakness on hercs part. Thor came along to help and it seemed as though the crew were beating him. When you read on it shows the fact that Thor is entirely holding back to make it seem like his life is jeopardy to ignite Herc into action. Herc seeing his firend in danger (albeit pretend) snaps out of his trauma and then virtually destroys the crew and they scamper away.
Your desription does not fit the events and is out of context of the preceding events.
Ummm...if they actually read the scans they would know all this, the description above is a brief introduction of the feats. It clearly shows Thor allowed the Crew to hit him, and it showed Hercules was distraught. So like I said how did I take things out of context? As I showed everything from the fight and the circumstances behind it from start to finish.
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/Thor_1990_418_14.jpg
Originally posted by severance
Sorry to bang on about this, but you are not dealing with the issue here. Abomination is humanoid in shape - he has eyes and and a mouth and four limbs. But he is also very different from a human. He is green and scaly, has two toes, sharp teeth, weighs near half a ton, has no nuts - so you cannot assume his physiology is the same as humans in any way. That said if I find the scan of cap hurtig him with his bare hands, I may have to grudgingly concede this point (but I wil respect Marvel writers a little less)
Cap hurt him with his shield. Obvoulsy Cap went for the weak point. Sorry I got lost in all these posts and forgot wether you were refering to Abom or Hulk
