Punisher vs Wolverine

Started by Master-Borg58 pages
Originally posted by Raoul
and then it'll be closed again and the maker warned...

hey Pr, could you explain something: why would the thread have to be closed rather than just pointing out who in the thread is violating KMC conduct?

this isn't a spite thread. If someone is violating KMC conduct, why not just warn that person or ban them temp then closing an entire thread?

Originally posted by Master-Borg
hey Pr, could you explain something: why would the thread have to be closed rather than just pointing out who in the thread is violating KMC conduct?

this isn't a spite thread. If someone is violating KMC conduct, why not just warn that person or ban them temp then closing an entire thread?


This is a spite thread. Punisher loses badly.

Originally posted by Ha-Son
This is a spite thread. Punisher loses badly.
punisher loses majority, but it's not a spite thread imo. THere are a lot of threads where one side clearly wins majority, but spite thread means threadmaker feels one side has no chance and still made it.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
hey Pr, could you explain something: why would the thread have to be closed rather than just pointing out who in the thread is violating KMC conduct?

this isn't a spite thread. If someone is violating KMC conduct, why not just warn that person or ban them temp then closing an entire thread?

regardless of whether the thread is spite or not, threads don't have to be spite threads to be closed...

threads are closed if more than one person is acting up... warnings are handed out if anyone goes too far...

Originally posted by phoney
Man Zone you suck so bad.

behave.

Why?

Originally posted by Raoul
and then it'll be closed again and the maker warned...
Oh no I will get warnings.

Originally posted by phoney
Why?

why not?

Originally posted by phoney
Oh no I will get warnings.

warnings, which lead to bans... sock?

Originally posted by Master-Borg
THere are a lot of threads where one side clearly wins majority, but spite thread means threadmaker feels one side has no chance and still made it.

Unintentional spite, etc.

Also, if you haven't realized it by now, the thread maker creates such threads such as "Cap vs DCU" or "Punisher invades DCU." Point is, the thread makers opinion can't be taken seriously.

Now you know how the rest of the forum feels about you. You don't listen. You stick your fingers in your ears and chant tht Punisher beats everybody.

rest of the forum? please. the last time i really had a fight with somebody here was with battlehammer and he and i are cool now since i'm mature enough to admit when i'm at fault. in this thread alone i've conceded several points and changed opinions. what about you? all you've really done is post your lame comeback lines and your 2 bit sarcasm that isn't funny or even clever.
*predicts a roll eyes post from creshock*
please dont try another comeback. thanx 😛

Oh that's right it was Einnis. So whoi came up with the crappy excuse? Oh that's right it was Einnis. so who's the writer who's a hack with other people's characters... oh that's right it's einnis again.

spare you schoolyard rhymes.

And what name did I call you? Like you just called me a little girl.

its called figurative speech😬

Because one person didn't get the point of the comic? Oh that's wonderful proof.

didn't get what? that tieri tried to dis garth back? that he was trying to be clever and came up with something that wasn't even clever, funny or even campy?

And how does this make Einnis not a hack? Aside from you commiting the Et tu fallacy?

cuz he isn't the one who tried to act smark and wind up getting crucified for it. Garth Ennis on the other hand REVIVED the punisher series.
do the math 😐

why'd you just call yourself baby boy?

you weren't trying a comeback again, were you? 😆

You all have been asked time after time to stop with the nonsense. If I get one more report regarding this thread I will be dealing out multiple warnings and closing the thread. Debate the topic without the spam, bashing, trolling and flaming. Thanks.

Originally posted by Raoul
why not?

warnings, which lead to bans... sock?

No dur.

I see this getting closed with my continued presence, then I win.

Originally posted by Correct Pr
No dur.

I see this getting closed with my continued presence, then I win.

...win what, exactly?

oh great.....its not even a mystery who that certain someone 😆

BADABING & Raoul: go ahead and do it. there are at least 5 people here who'd practically give you a handjob if you do it (i'm not one of them)

*get your gloves ready people* 😄

Originally posted by Sado22
oh great.....its not even a mystery who that certain someone 😆

BADABING & Raoul: go ahead and do it. there are at least 5 people here who'd practically give you a handjob if you do it (i'm not one of them)

*get your gloves ready people* 😄

Warned.

Originally posted by Ha-Son
Unintentional spite, etc.

Also, if you haven't realized it by now, the thread maker creates such threads such as "Cap vs DCU" or "Punisher invades DCU." Point is, the thread makers opinion can't be taken seriously.

No I cant be taken serioulsy when it comes to DCU and everybody already knows that I dont read DC comics. I was bored I started the thread theres still not need for people to be rude, its just a bit of fun really. Hell I may be ignorant but some points are just common sense.

Thats despite the fact that most people in this thread think that Punisher wins the majority

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Nah really? Why did Clark get the stash and what is the main purpose? The main purpose is for Punisher to bust heads. Eventhough Wolverine can use the blackbird its main prupose is not for his personal use but for the X-men.

NO. The main reason is that Clarke himself is already a taco shy of a full combination plate, AND he's got G.W. Bridge and law enforcement after him as well. Having Castle as a partner is secondary. True, he did say he'd been gathering all the data, equipment, and technology he could find, but it doesn't say how long he'd had access to the armory. You saw the size of that place. It would be impossible for him to gather up all that stuff in four days. Even if it had all been already stocked inside the armory, it's highly unlikely he found and infiltrated a SHIELD armory in those four days.

On that note, it doesn't matter if the main purpose of the Blackbird is to transport the X-Men. Wolverine has access to it.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
You missed the point! Is the pizza a gun? Is a steam-roller a gun? Why did Frank use it when its not normally part of his arsenal? Get it?????

No, my deluded friend... You missed my point. He used it because he didn't have a choice. He didn't have his guns, and knives had no effect on the Russian, but HEAT conveniently DID. Unless you're saying it's perfectly acceptable for Castle to run around throwing scalding-hot pizza in the face of an enemy and then crush him with a steam roller on a regular basis, then both are merely and ONLY examples of working his environment and anything in it to his advantage.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Irrelevant! Where does it say on this forum no plot devices allowed? What matters is that Cap uses his standard shield now and not the enregy shield, if he was still using it now its not a plot device...hell he was using the thing for loads of issues. You cant just come along and call it a plot device. 🤨

Not being a smart-ass here, but aren't plot-devices included in the no-PIS rule?

I'm not even saying he can't use it in this fight. What I'm saying is that it's out-of-character for him to use them. Let him have them for this fight. It still won't be enough to put down Wolverine. Why, you ask?

The gun Castle used on the Rhino more than likely shoots pure concussive force. Can't be an incendiary explosive because Castle sustained no damage at the range at which he shot the Rhino. The Satan Claw knocked the Rhino across what looked to be no more than 50 feet of pavement. The Rhino wound up bruised, and had difficulty walking or standing due to broken ribs (which is why he was shown in a wheelchair soon afterward). Powerful stuff.

HOWEVER, Wolverine has unbreakable friggin' bones. Sure, there are more vulnerable areas, like the abdomen or the nutsack (a popular area with you and Sado, apparently 😖hifty: ) but unless you're gonna feed us a bunch of crap about the gun or the claw packing more force than Cyclops' optic blasts, or punches from guys like Roughhouse, Namor, Wendigo, Sasquatch, or the Hulk.... all of which Wolverine has CONSISTENTLY endured... then Castle is ABSOLUTELY SCREWED.

SHIELD weapons >>>> The Rhino's durability

Wolverine's durability >>>> The Rhino's durability

Blackbird, Cyclops' optic blast/punches from mid-to-top tiers >>>> SHIELD weapons

Wolverine's durability >>>> SHIELD weapons

Wolverine >>>> The Punisher

End of story.

Originally posted by golem370
What if Frank just fines Leech and have him null Wolverines healing factor. What would happen to Wolverine didn't have his healing factor and still had adamantium in his body?

He'd probably die. Highly improbable scenario, though. Does Castle even know about Leech? I mean, the guy lives in the sewers.... 😐

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
NO. The main reason is that Clarke himself is already a taco shy of a full combination plate, AND he's got G.W. Bridge and law enforcement after him as well. Having Castle as a partner is secondary. True, he did say he'd been gathering all the data, equipment, and technology he could find, but it doesn't say how long he'd had access to the armory. You saw the size of that place. It would be impossible for him to gather up all that stuff in four days. Even if it had all been already stocked inside the armory, it's highly unlikely he found and infiltrated a SHIELD armory in those four days.

What the hell has that got to do with anything?? He got the stash he said "Get to work", he didnt say "im going to get to work". Therefore common sense dictates that the stash was for Punisher to use.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol

On that note, it doesn't matter if the main purpose of the Blackbird is to transport the X-Men. Wolverine has access to it.

Yes it does becaue we have to establish wether the equimpment belongs to him. If the equipment main purpose is for his benefit then its still his equipment. One of the things that you ahve to take into account is that in prep there is no outside help. Since the blackbird mains purpose is for the X-men he may not be able to use it when he want to and he would have to ask for permission (Wolverine probably wouldnt because he breaks rules but thats whats supposed to happen). Frank doesnt have to ask permission to get the Satans Claw. Saying that the Blackbird belongs to Wolverine is like saying that a book in the library is your personal property.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol

No, my deluded friend... You missed my point. He used it because he didn't have a choice.

Ok how many other superheroes do you know that would use a pizza and a steamroller as a weapon, must heroes would just keep using there barehands the whole point is that Punisher will use anything that works. There are also other examples of him using a motorbike to drag Wolverine around and also for him to use gasoline that happened to be present to try and light him up.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol

He didn't have his guns, and knives had no effect on the Russian, but HEAT conveniently DID. Unless you're saying it's perfectly acceptable for Castle to run around throwing scalding-hot pizza in the face of an enemy and then crush them with a steam roller on a regular basis, then both are merely and ONLY examples of working his environment and anything in it to his advantage.

I could say the samething about Mung, conventional weapons dont work so he decided to use something more powerful or something else. If he feels that something better is going to use the job he'll do it like I said hes never had somebody like Stu Clark before. When he was with Microchip he probably never used some of that stuff before now hes got somebody even better.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol

Not being a smart-ass here, but aren't plot-devices included in the no-PIS rule?

No they are not!!!!!!! You are being a smart ass and you're wasting my time.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol

I'm not even saying he can't use it in this fight. What I'm saying is that it's out-of-character for him to use them. Let him have them for this fight. It still won't be enough to put down Wolverine. Why, you ask?

The gun Castle used on the Rhino more than likely shoots pure concussive force. Can't be an incendiary explosive because Castle sustained no damage at the range at which he shot the Rhino. The Satan Claw knocked the Rhino across what looked to be no more than 50 feet of pavement. The Rhino wound up bruised, and had difficulty walking or standing due to broken ribs (which is why he was shown in a wheelchair soon afterward). Powerful stuff.

What part of what you think doesnt matter? The writers so that it was fit for him to use the Satans Claw and the venom suit not you.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol

HOWEVER, Wolverine has unbreakable friggin' bones. Sure, there are more vulnerable areas, like the abdomen or the nutsack (a popular area with you and Sado, apparently) but unless you're gonna feed us a bunch of crap about the gun or the claw packing more force than Cyclops' optic blasts, or punches from guys like Roughhouse, Namor, Wendigo, Sasquatch, or the Hulk.... all of which Wolverine has CONSISTENTLY endured... then Castle is ABSOLUTELY SCREWED.

Look your seriously wasting my time. First of all Wolverines HF is reduced. We got scans in thie thread of Wolverine getting dropped and hurt by gunshots WHICH ARE NON-EINNIS. What the hell do you want me to do? You got Frank using weapons that you think are out of charcater for him to use despite the fcat the writers dont have a problem with him using it. We got non-einnis feats with Wolverine getting hurt and dropeed by bullets but despite that i guess the writers are crap. So basically you're just wasting my time and your going to either define everything as either out of character or crap if you dont like it.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
No I cant be taken serioulsy when it comes to DCU and everybody already knows that I dont read DC comics. I was bored I started the thread theres still not need for people to be rude, its just a bit of fun really. Hell I may be ignorant but some points are just common sense.

Thats despite the fact that most people in this thread think that Punisher wins the majority


No, you can't be taken seriously at all.

*shrug* Really should not have bothered .